Many of these daytime TV programmes involving members of the public are similar in that people "just want to be on telly!"
My wife records and watches "Escape to the Country" which she says has similar people. She says she likes watching these sort of programmes but they are all "sleep inducing" so she often has to run them through several times, before she's seen the whole programme.
Well just now this old bird had a small table and the dealer was laying out the 50 pound notes and she just sat their smirking and refusing to say anything...I could have slapped her. Definitely some of these folks like to make out they are 'tough customers'. Greedy and deluded more like are some of them with the rubbish they bring in.
I get a lot of satisfaction when they choose to go to auction and then make only a fraction of what the dealer offered...:D
The ones that get my goat are the ones who say it's their treasure/means everything to them/so much family history ... Why are you selling it then? and expect the dealer to pay a high price for their memories :mad:
Greedy and self deluded? As compared to some of the dealers who always try to winkle out what they paid - or say it didn't cost them anything because it was Granny's and try to give them a mere fraction of the value? Surely the punters are made aware of the 'independent valuers' view before they go on camera - and this is why they hold out. Granted, some of them think that if that's what it's worth, that's what they want - and the dealers have to have some room for profit.
A recent case was a group of medals - something I know about - where even the independent valuers' estimate was off by about 25%. They were worth about £2000. Opening offer? £250, and he was mighty offended when it was turned down. He still managed to buy them for £900!
What irritates me about this show is that the buyers ask the sellers what figure they have in mind every time, and are always met with 'I couldn't say' or 'Start putting money down' or the like. Quite obviously the sellers are told not to say (so that we can see whether or not the buyers will match or exceed the auctioneer's estimate), so why the silly little charade of asking? The buyers know fine well that they're not going to be told what the sellers want.
Greedy and self deluded? As compared to some of the dealers who always try to winkle out what they paid - or say it didn't cost them anything because it was Granny's and try to give them a mere fraction of the value? Surely the punters are made aware of the 'independent valuers' view before they go on camera - and this is why they hold out. Granted, some of them think that if that's what it's worth, that's what they want - and the dealers have to have some room for profit.
A recent case was a group of medals - something I know about - where even the independent valuers' estimate was off by about 25%. They were worth about £2000. Opening offer? £250, and he was mighty offended when it was turned down. He still managed to buy them for £900!
There was a great one the other week, when the valuer, valued a collection of tribal masks, shield and spears at about £250-£400 they sold for over £30k turned out one of the shields was an Aboriginal heirloom. Hope the valuer got his ass kicked.
A recent case was a group of medals - something I know about - where even the independent valuers' estimate was off by about 25%. They were worth about £2000. Opening offer? £250, and he was mighty offended when it was turned down. He still managed to buy them for £900!
Do you know anything about French WWI medals...? I have a couple that we found in the old house we owned in France belonging to the family who owned the house decades earlier.
There was a great one the other week, when the valuer, valued a collection of tribal masks, shield and spears at about £250-£400 they sold for over £30k turned out one of the shields was an Aboriginal heirloom. Hope the valuer got his ass kicked.
Oooo...if you mean Australian Aboriginal heirloom then I hope the seller kept a low profile because they get mighty sensitive about stuff like that - their culture, their history dah-de-dah - the tribe it came from would want a cut:cool:
Do you know anything about French WWI medals...? I have a couple that we found in the old house we owned in France belonging to the family who owned the house decades earlier.
Not worth much in England, may be more valuable in France.
Wht do they have all those people peering through the back panels...They annoy me..:(
They often seem to be with the seller, who will sometimes check with them if the offer is high enough. Maybe they are just shy and don't want to be on tv.
I take the opposite view. Its the buyers who wind me up; or at least some of them.Some of them are so tight and in some cases absolutely refuse to go any higher. Then at the end of the show we see that they have made a huge profit. To me that just seems like a rip off.
I take the opposite view. Its the buyers who wind me up; or at least some of them.Some of them are so tight and in some cases absolutely refuse to go any higher. Then at the end of the show we see that they have made a huge profit. To me that just seems like a rip off.
What huge profits? I haven't seen any, £10, £20, wouldn't even pay their petrol to get there. It's not all profit, they have overheads, rent, rates, electric, heating, staff , etc and they want a wage out of it. Some weekend fairs charge £200-- £300 to stand for 2 days, and some of the big London fairs can charge £1000s. for a stand. Days standing at auctions to buy just one or two items which need to make a days wages. Many dealers I know are working for minimum wage but just love what they are doing. David Dickinson annoys me when he says just twist his arm for another £50 and then at the end of the show we see they have made a loss. If it is so easy why don't you have a go yourself.?
Well just now this old bird had a small table and the dealer was laying out the 50 pound notes and she just sat their smirking and refusing to say anything...I could have slapped her. Definitely some of these folks like to make out they are 'tough customers'. Greedy and deluded more like are some of them with the rubbish they bring in.
I get a lot of satisfaction when they choose to go to auction and then make only a fraction of what the dealer offered...:D
Me too..a dealer would just say byeeee,I'm sure.
I remember watching a woman who had a family heirloom given to a great aunt by someone famous and she sold it for apittance to have a day out in Alton Towers or some such..no soul, I reckon.
I once helped a friend out on a stall..a woman came round after a little picture frame and kept asking for a ridiculous reduction. A the end (believing the rubbish that dealers will ALWAYS reduce athe end of the day)..she came back with a better offer but it being at the bottom of a box was told to p*** off."But you HAVE to sell to me"..Wrong!!!!;)
The ones that get my goat are the ones who say it's their treasure/means everything to them/so much family history ... Why are you selling it then? and expect the dealer to pay a high price for their memories :mad:
they are skint, and need the money.. they have bills to pay..
or a holiday or a cruise..:eek:
I take the opposite view. Its the buyers who wind me up; or at least some of them.Some of them are so tight and in some cases absolutely refuse to go any higher. Then at the end of the show we see that they have made a huge profit. To me that just seems like a rip off.
One or two of them are generous, especially Stewart Hofgartner who always seems to pay over the odds.
Mike Melody is a complete Scrooge though....it's like trying to extract blood from a stone.
I find the news of how much the dealers ended up profiting on the deals hard to believe, or is the whole picture - and is definitely not the way most dealers of anything make a profit - you don't regularly pay £400 for something to sell it for £420 for a £20 profit! Itchy chin. Mark up is more likely to be for at least a 50% profit or they wouldn't be interested/take the risk.
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My wife records and watches "Escape to the Country" which she says has similar people. She says she likes watching these sort of programmes but they are all "sleep inducing" so she often has to run them through several times, before she's seen the whole programme.
I get a lot of satisfaction when they choose to go to auction and then make only a fraction of what the dealer offered...:D
A recent case was a group of medals - something I know about - where even the independent valuers' estimate was off by about 25%. They were worth about £2000. Opening offer? £250, and he was mighty offended when it was turned down. He still managed to buy them for £900!
I call them selfish. You wont get more money for your crap either accept the deal or throw it in the bin.
There was a great one the other week, when the valuer, valued a collection of tribal masks, shield and spears at about £250-£400 they sold for over £30k turned out one of the shields was an Aboriginal heirloom. Hope the valuer got his ass kicked.
Do you know anything about French WWI medals...? I have a couple that we found in the old house we owned in France belonging to the family who owned the house decades earlier.
Oooo...if you mean Australian Aboriginal heirloom then I hope the seller kept a low profile because they get mighty sensitive about stuff like that - their culture, their history dah-de-dah - the tribe it came from would want a cut:cool:
They are there as eye candy, like Top of the Pop's.
Blimey...Are they the best eye candy ITV can do....:D
Not worth much in England, may be more valuable in France.
They often seem to be with the seller, who will sometimes check with them if the offer is high enough. Maybe they are just shy and don't want to be on tv.
They are the parma violets of the antiques audience!
Don't count on it, sight unseen.
What huge profits? I haven't seen any, £10, £20, wouldn't even pay their petrol to get there. It's not all profit, they have overheads, rent, rates, electric, heating, staff , etc and they want a wage out of it. Some weekend fairs charge £200-- £300 to stand for 2 days, and some of the big London fairs can charge £1000s. for a stand. Days standing at auctions to buy just one or two items which need to make a days wages. Many dealers I know are working for minimum wage but just love what they are doing. David Dickinson annoys me when he says just twist his arm for another £50 and then at the end of the show we see they have made a loss. If it is so easy why don't you have a go yourself.?
Me too ! !
Me too..a dealer would just say byeeee,I'm sure.
I remember watching a woman who had a family heirloom given to a great aunt by someone famous and she sold it for apittance to have a day out in Alton Towers or some such..no soul, I reckon.
I once helped a friend out on a stall..a woman came round after a little picture frame and kept asking for a ridiculous reduction. A the end (believing the rubbish that dealers will ALWAYS reduce athe end of the day)..she came back with a better offer but it being at the bottom of a box was told to p*** off."But you HAVE to sell to me"..Wrong!!!!;)
they are skint, and need the money.. they have bills to pay..
or a holiday or a cruise..:eek:
One or two of them are generous, especially Stewart Hofgartner who always seems to pay over the odds.
Mike Melody is a complete Scrooge though....it's like trying to extract blood from a stone.
This bloke gives me the creeps *shudder* there is just something about him