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Cilla, ITV, tngt, looking forward to this... But

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    jjrussjjruss Posts: 293
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    Sunny B wrote: »
    I'm sick of that advert aswell! "I've blown it haven't I? Everything!" :mad:

    It seems to be very over hyped for some reason. :confused:
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    mal2poolmal2pool Posts: 5,690
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    Hope there are plenty of songs in the drama. Suppose they will just be short bits. Like to see her album back in the charts again after this
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    Vix77Vix77 Posts: 529
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    I'm going to watch it, don't really like Cilla much but I do like Sheridan Smith, she played Mrs Biggs really well
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    culttvfanculttvfan Posts: 2,800
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    myscimitar wrote: »
    She may be a great all rounder, but she won awards for a west end show, can do comedy, and straight acting and can sing.. Acting is not about the training, is about the talent.

    As I said in my previous post, she can indeed do all the things you mention, but not very well.

    As for talent, it consists of what is innate and what is acquired. For most who want to become an accomplished actor, formal training at a drama school is a prerequisite. Occasionally, an exceptional individual with a keen intellect and inquiring mind (and frequently academically gifted) comes along who manages to circumvent this well trodden path, such as, for instance, Ian McKellan, who only really started to take acting seriously as a by-product of his love of Shakespeare whilst studying at Cambridge.

    Unfortunately, none of the above qualities apply to the badly spoken and poorly educated Ms Smith, who has acquired a sizable following from a certain, unenlightened type of viewer, particularly those keen on soaps, who think, misguidedly, that what she does constitutes good acting,
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    PunksNotDeadPunksNotDead Posts: 21,303
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    I'm still not entirely sure why this has been made and in three parts, she is not exactly an interesting person. There are loads of people who were in showbiz back then that would have been better suited to a drama bio.
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    Trsvis_BickleTrsvis_Bickle Posts: 9,202
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    myscimitar wrote: »
    I think Sheridan Smith is one our great's and should play the part perfect, but it, even with make-up etc, she still so much better looking than Cilla herself,

    According to Front Row, this is something of a disctraction. Cilla Black never looked anything other than the dowdy, buck-toothed typist that she was, whereas Sheridan Smith looks like an actress.
    Mr_Eye wrote: »
    Sheridan Smith is also better at singing than Cilla, so the whole thing is a bit ridiculous.

    She does indeed seem to be a very good singer. I heard a clip of her from the show and she was clearly better than Cilla Black.
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    Trsvis_BickleTrsvis_Bickle Posts: 9,202
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    culttvfan wrote: »
    As I said in my previous post, she can indeed do all the things you mention, but not very well.

    As for talent, it consists of what is innate and what is acquired. For most who want to become an accomplished actor, formal training at a drama school is a prerequisite. Occasionally, an exceptional individual with a keen intellect and inquiring mind (and frequently academically gifted) comes along who manages to circumvent this well trodden path, such as, for instance, Ian McKellan, who only really started to take acting seriously as a by-product of his love of Shakespeare whilst studying at Cambridge.

    Unfortunately, none of the above qualities apply to the badly spoken and poorly educated Ms Smith, who has acquired a sizable following from a certain, unenlightened type of viewer, particularly those keen on soaps, who think, misguidedly, that what she does constitutes good acting,

    Oh dear. It's difficult to know exactly where to start refuting this much drivel. Here goes.

    Sheridan Smith is not just some 'by the numbers' soap star made good. She is an accomplished stage actress, having appeared in serious theatre drama productions as well as the more populist musical stuff.

    She has won numerous awards, including two Laurence Olivier awards in consecutive years. For her role in Trevor Nunn's Flare Path at the Theatre Royal, she won not only the Evening Standard's Award for Best Actress but also BroadwayWorld UK's award for Best Featured Actress in a Play and the Laurence Olivier award for Best Performance in a Supporting Role.

    She was nominated for five awards for her TV performance as the eponymous Mrs Biggs and won two, including the British Academy Television award for Best Actress.

    Probably best to do a little research before you make a fool of yourself, eh? ;-)
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    Trsvis_BickleTrsvis_Bickle Posts: 9,202
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    Exactly, she outsold the others. Cilla, Sandie and Dusty, strangely enough, all had 17 hits in the sixties. Cilla had 2 no.1s, a number 2, 2 other top five and a total of 10 top ten. Sandie had 3 no.1s (but one of them was the awful Eurovision entry), no number 2's, 2 other top five and a total of 8 top ten. Dusty, incontestably the best singer of the three, had 1 no.1, only 2 other top five and a total of only 6 top ten.

    Quite agree. The charts tell only a very small part of the story when it comes to talent.
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    RadiomaniacRadiomaniac Posts: 43,510
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    I detest Cilla, but adore Sheridan, so will be watching this for her, she is a pleasure to watch in anything and everything.
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    rioniarionia Posts: 1,657
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    I'm not a fan of Cilla at all , but watched the preview at the BFI (they showed the 1st 2 parts), because my partner is a fan of Sheridan Smith.

    Much to my surprise I really enjoyed it, I was expecting some lightweight, glossy drama, but it wasn't (especially as it moved into part 2, and the Epstein era).

    And the music (including Sheridan's singing) was recorded live, not dubbed.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,306
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    culttvfan wrote: »
    As I said in my previous post, she can indeed do all the things you mention, but not very well.

    As for talent, it consists of what is innate and what is acquired. For most who want to become an accomplished actor, formal training at a drama school is a prerequisite. Occasionally, an exceptional individual with a keen intellect and inquiring mind (and frequently academically gifted) comes along who manages to circumvent this well trodden path, such as, for instance, Ian McKellan, who only really started to take acting seriously as a by-product of his love of Shakespeare whilst studying at Cambridge.

    Unfortunately, none of the above qualities apply to the badly spoken and poorly educated Ms Smith, who has acquired a sizable following from a certain, unenlightened type of viewer, particularly those keen on soaps, who think, misguidedly, that what she does constitutes good acting,

    Yes of course she poorly educated... And as for awards.. No none....

    "She studied dance at the Joyce Mason School,of Dance, at a early age, then went onto Axholme community School, to study performing arts, and was a member of The National Youth Music Theatre, performing a number of lead roles.

    Laurence Olivier Award
    Best Actress in a Musical:
    Legally Blonde (2011)
    Best Supporting Role:
    Flare Path (2012)
    Theatregoers' Choice Award
    Best Actress in a Musical:
    Legally Blonde (2011)
    Best Actress in a Play:
    Hedda Gabler (2013)
    Evening Standard Award
    Best Actress:
    Flare Path (2011)
    British Academy Television Award
    Best Actress
    Mrs Biggs (2013)
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    HotgossipHotgossip Posts: 22,385
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    Not going to watch this. I like Sheridan Smith but can't bear Cilla Black and have no interest in her life. Even Sheridan Smith couldn't tempt me to watch this.
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    tobitobi Posts: 2,915
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    So looking forward to this.
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    Joe40Joe40 Posts: 1,532
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    Prediction: This will be one of the shows of the year, and Sheridan Smith will be this year's Olivia Colman and clean up at the BAFTA's and other awards.
    No pressure then.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,306
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    I will watch it on catch-up,tmrw as I also not interested really in Cilla, but love SS, one of our greatest young talents.
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    TheGrumpWizardTheGrumpWizard Posts: 1,547
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    Sunny B wrote: »
    I'm sick of that advert aswell! "I've blown it haven't I? Everything!" :mad:
    Quite an appropriate line if the stories of her early days are to be believed. :D
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    BelligerenceBelligerence Posts: 40,613
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    Cow Cilla. :mad:
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    ElectricBoy171ElectricBoy171 Posts: 20,776
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    Good evening all. :)

    I'm not a massive fan of Cilla Black but this looks quite good. :blush:
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    Leicester_HunkLeicester_Hunk Posts: 18,316
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    I like the goofy teeth Sheridan is wearing, fit the part perfectly!
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    tobitobi Posts: 2,915
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    Loving this so far. This actress is brilliant
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    TheGraduate2012TheGraduate2012 Posts: 14,822
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    None of them are getting the accent quite right though, why can no-one do a Scouse accent? Other than that, it's quite good so far.
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    phill363phill363 Posts: 24,313
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    Been good so far
    None of them are getting the accent quite right though, why can no-one do a Scouse accent? Other than that, it's quite good so far.

    Not seeing any problems with the accents myself
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    Rogana JoshRogana Josh Posts: 41,348
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    I like the goofy teeth Sheridan is wearing, fit the part perfectly!

    Think Cilla had a nose job as well in the sixties, as she had a Roman nose.
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    TheGraduate2012TheGraduate2012 Posts: 14,822
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    phill363 wrote: »
    Been good so far



    Not seeing any problems with the accents myself

    Their 'es' and 'os' don't sound nearly high-pitched enough to me! :D
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    mediaratmediarat Posts: 358
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    It's good. Very charming.
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