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so falling over is not a fault
redcherry
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I really like Suzanne as a skater, but surely if you fall over, then that's it. As in if they were in a competition other than this, they would forfeit points.
It just doesn't seem fair on the other skaters who performed without errors
It just doesn't seem fair on the other skaters who performed without errors
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Always been the way of it and always found it unfair.
The right result. I'd have preferred Bonnie to stay over Sam but he did nail that skate off
The judges didn't score the routine with the fall in it, only the public got to vote on that one.
Even with deductions for a fall, she was still better than the others.
She wasn't scored on that routine, so your thread is a total fail. Good job.
Thanks. Keep up the good work. As I said, in all other competitions she would have lost points due to the fall. I realise the public vote saved her (and I'm glad tbh) but I just feel for the other skaters who performed well on the night without errors.
A fall doesn't invalidate a performance. She was still amazing and better than Beth and Sam and probably even Bonnie.
It is a fault but she was still brilliant and I suspect many think the same
If you are doing a routine that scores 10. if done properly. and lose a point for a fall. you still get 9. That always beats a routine thats only got an 8 worth of content in it. In real skating you would lose the mark available for that part of the routine - which is why people with a fall win medals too. If you start with a routine thats worth 110 in the judges handbook, and fail on the 10 you still get 100. Thats not at all unusual - in the real world you don't come top of any exam by doing the simpler questions flawlessly, or get nothing for making a small error in the hard ones.
Thats the way it has to be - or people could win by not doing much, as everyone doing difficult things had one small fall, or the best could lose because the ice was rough, or in this case, because their partner's hands were too sticky.
I remember, as a child, staying up to watch Robin Cousins win Olympic gold. He made an obvious mistake in his routine - I don't think he fell over but he certainly didn't complete a move - but he still had done enough to win. The skaters who take risks to make routines thrilling are often awarded more than those who play it safe, even if mistakes are made.
if she had lost 4 marks she would still have beaten Beth by 4 or 5, and Bonnie by a few marks on their normal marking scales. That was probably the most difficult routine seen so far.
You can watch the marks add up these days on some coverage. Marks are added for difficulty as moves are skated, and the judges then adjust them depending on whether the move was properly completed. Its an incentive for people to do more, more difficult, things and get 100 out of 110 rather than 80 out of 80.