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I was interested to learn that YouView doesn't support IP channels like Freeview HD - well not in the same format. As a result a YouView box can't carry the Freeview badge.
If true, does anyone know how many estimated Freeview HD tvs/boxes exist? I constantly see Motors TV explaining how to get the channel and people moaning their kit doesn't work - so clearly the viewers are their IF the kit works.
Surly YouView & Freeview arnt going to become rival services?
If true, does anyone know how many estimated Freeview HD tvs/boxes exist? I constantly see Motors TV explaining how to get the channel and people moaning their kit doesn't work - so clearly the viewers are their IF the kit works.
Surly YouView & Freeview arnt going to become rival services?
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But it has a DTT tuner in it as this is the easiest and cheapest way to deliver the most viewed channels .
Project canvas which became you view was always aimed at. Providing a richer viewing experience with/by a walled garden set of content....on top if what DTT provided.
Youview and Freeview do compete with each other. Freeview is looking to launch Freeview Connected in direct competition to Youview, which itself is turning into a product of BT and Talk Talk.
The use of the Freeview HD IPTV capability has been opportunistic so far and badly managed leading to widespread confusion and equipment compatibility problems. Connect TV now appears to have disappeared. Which kind of vindicates Youview and shows that you need a brand and strategy for a platform to succeed.
A YouView box is a Freeview box - supposedly it was going to be a universal interface for IPTV services, across Freeview, Freesat, PVR's, STB's and TV's, putting an end to the current confusion.
Unfortunately the BBC/ITV spent so many years deciding on what the specification was going to be, that by the time they did all manufacturers had lost interest, and it ended up becoming the minority subscription service it now is.
Even worse, the BBC/ITV have been talking about trying again, and developing another universal system for IPTV.
This Freeview Connect sounds interesting. Is this planned to work on current boxes or will more new kit be required? It also appears the new BBC interactive service is not working on YouView at the moment but does work on Freeview HD. All seems very strange and fragmenting the market .... which can only damage the whole platform in the future.
Not unless they've changed the specifications of Freeview HD since it came out?
I have a 3 yr old Digital Stream PVR which is badged Freeview+ HD, and it can't receive these channels properly.
As I explained on another thread, it's gets the audio of the streams, but not the video. This is on a 5 Mb/s download speed.
Hopefully someone can add a few links or otherwise confirm.
What changed with the way IPTV is broadcasted.
RT Docs via red button on RT channels has great playback (no buffering, as does My Motors), but the Sports Feed had buffering issues - as did the channels on VUTV.
Shambles tbh.
Does Motors pay more for its own EPG slot rather than be packaged behind some other interface before selecting it?
Not really, as it stands every box/TV manufacturer has to sort out any IPTV channels for each specific model - which is exactly what YouView was supposed to solve
ITVPlayer is particularly bad, with hardly anything supporting it.
Sorry, I fail to see your point?.
Freeview (and Freeview HD) are specific specifications for DTT, nothing whatsoever to do with IPTV.
The universal specification for IPTV was going to be YouView, till the BBC/ITV cocked it up - and are now talking about yet another supposed 'standard' for IPTV instead.
YouView seems the pay TV choice of box these days.
It was only introduced (in the form of MHEG-IC) in April 2011, in D-Book version 6.2.1.
FreeviewHD devices certified after April 2011 are required to support MHEG-IC.
Whether earlier devices do or not depends if the manufacturer is willing or able to update it.
From Arqiva:
And to single out BBC/ITV is unfair. If you look at YouView, all the terrestrial broadcasters were given equal shares. You can distort the facts it the other way, by saying that Channel 4/Channel 5 and Arqiva combined have a bigger stake in YouView than BBC/ITV....
Please note that some streamed channel broadcasts are cleared for use on TVs using a whitelist method. Only after the manufacturer has confirmed compatibility will the TV be added to the whitelist and allowed to access content.
I have had the opposite experience, incidentally: Motors TV frequently buffered during its first few weeks on Connected Freeview, but VuTV is fine.
Connect TV is alive and still broadcasting. Three channels via the red button on channel 18, two extra channels via the red button on channel 35, one extra channel via the red button on channel 85, plus CCTV's three channels, Propeller TV, Sonlife and Motors TV.
Since Arqiva took over, Connect TV appears to be having more success with adding streamed channels via the red button to existing channels. Understandable as the streams are more "discoverable" than being hidden down the channel list.
I think they need to swap places with the porn channels on DTT then they would appear more accessible.
People who want porn will always find it wherever they move it to so those channels dont matter so much!
Are the channels in the 200s recordable though if they are streamed? If not it doesnt matter that they get buried under other channels instead, but if they can be recorded then giving them their own LCN surely makes it easer for recording?
That said maybe Motors likes the 240 slot as its basically an added 0 on the 24 that people may use to view ITV4. Nice and easy pattern to remember for a similar sort of viewer.
Some people in the industry think that the streamed channels should be integrated with the relevant genre, as adult streamed channels are integrated with the linear adult channels. There are still some good reasons why that shouldn't be the case, but maybe in the future.
IPTV channels aren't 'broadcast' at all, nor are they 'on Freeview' - it's simply an alternative method to using a computer to view them.