Miliband - UK a Christian country

[Deleted User] · 22/04/14 - 09:04

Britain, he said in an interview, is a ‘Christian country’ despite declining observance, and he strongly believes religion ‘nourishes people’.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2602948/I-dont-think-God-exists-faith-I-says-Jewish-atheist-Ed-Miliband.html

PrestonAl · 22/04/14 - 09:12

An Atheist Jew, praising the CofE. You couldn't make it up. I didn't even think Jewish was a race. Perhaps I'll start calling myself a british Viking due to my Viking roots hundreds of years ago.

Sniffle774 · 22/04/14 - 09:16

Oh good grief, I think I preferred it when politicians "didn't do God "

PrestonAl · 22/04/14 - 09:18

Sniffle774 wrote: »

Oh good grief, I think I preferred it when politicians "didn't do God "

I can safely say it puts me off any politician.

I'm just waiting for Farage to come out and say he's a Catholic CofE next. He's already distasteful enough to vote for. He might as well add religion into his mix.

Judge Mental · 22/04/14 - 09:25

Didn't agree with it when the man in the blue tie said it. Don't agree with it when the man in the red tie said it. Moral cowards both.

Sniffle774 · 22/04/14 - 09:27

Judge Mental wrote: »

Didn't agree with it when the man in the blue tie said it. Don't agree with it when the man in the red tie said it. Moral cowards both.

True dat

SnowStorm86 · 22/04/14 - 09:29

Sniffle774 wrote: »

Oh good grief, I think I preferred it when politicians "didn't do God "

Especially when you consider G.W.Bush's fondness of referring to God. You'd think politicians would be doing their best to distance themselves.

rusty123 · 22/04/14 - 09:34

Sniffle774 wrote: »

Oh good grief, I think I preferred it when politicians "didn't do God "

When was that then? What era? And what was it about that time that makes you long for it?

alan29 · 22/04/14 - 09:34

I know plenty of christians who face-palm at the idea of politicians calling this a christian country.

Judge Mental · 22/04/14 - 09:36

I have no greater interest in their religious beliefs than I do in their sex lives. Both should be a personal matter which people with good manners don't discuss.

Why they don't just say that they support the rights of all believers to privately follow their own beliefs but also the need to ensure that no religion has any part in public policy I don't know. How could any fair minded person object to that?

davor · 22/04/14 - 09:37

Yes, UK is a Christian country. The Queen is Christian and she is head of state.

Annsyre · 22/04/14 - 09:41

RacerWelsh wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2602948/I-dont-think-God-exists-faith-I-says-Jewish-atheist-Ed-Miliband.html

I agree with Miliband.

Our institutions are underpinned by Christianity.

SnowStorm86 · 22/04/14 - 09:42

davor wrote: »

Yes, UK is a Christian country. The Queen is Christian and she is head of state.

I always found that a bit strange. The Queen doesn't come across as a particularly religious person, unlike say the Pope. The fact she is head of the Church of England seems laughable.

Judge Mental · 22/04/14 - 09:43

davor wrote: »

Yes, UK is a Christian country. The Queen is Christian and she is head of state.

And yet in Tudor England the kings and queens flip flopped between Catholicism and Protestantism for their own purposes. So perhaps we need a more reasoned approach. Disestablish the so called state religion and allow individuals to decide the matter for themselves.

We can remember the Christian period of our history without pickling the country in aspic and never allowing it to change. We were a pagan country once.

Perhaps the time has come for us to be a secular nation like many other modern democracies. I will vote for a party which puts that in their manifesto.

onecitizen · 22/04/14 - 09:43

Politicians like anyone else should be perfectly entitled to express their religious beliefs. I don't have a problem with it. There does seem to be an almost fascistic aethiest tendency amongst the chattering classes to shout down anyone who professes a Christian faith. Note that these people attack Christians but not other religious groups, they are far too clever/cowardly to do that.;-)

Judge Mental · 22/04/14 - 09:44

Annsyre wrote: »

I agree with Miliband.

Our institutions are underpinned by Christianity.

What does that underpinning actually amount to other than history?

Annsyre · 22/04/14 - 09:46

Judge Mental wrote: »

What does that underpinning actually amount to other than history?

Most of our laws, our Parliament, our armed forces.

Judge Mental · 22/04/14 - 09:46

onecitizen wrote: »

Politicians like anyone else should be perfectly entitled to express their religious beliefs. I don't have a problem with it. There does seem to be an almost fascistic aethiest tendency amongst the chattering classes to shout down anyone who professes a Christian faith. Note that these people attack Christians but not other religious groups, they are far too clever/cowardly to do that.;-)

That's not true. This is not anti Christian. It's pro individual choice and anti discrimination. Why should one religion have supremacy?

Judge Mental · 22/04/14 - 09:47

Annsyre wrote: »

Most of our laws.

So what? Other countries without a state religion seem to manage perfectly well to run a legal system.

Judge Mental · 22/04/14 - 09:48

Annsyre wrote: »

Most of our laws, our Parliament, our armed forces.

Secular nations manage to run all three. So what does this underpinning actually contribute?

RecordPlayer · 22/04/14 - 09:48

SnowStorm86 wrote: »

I always found that a bit strange. The Queen doesn't come across as a particularly religious person, unlike say the Pope. The fact she is head of the Church of England seems laughable.

You can blame Henry VIII for that.

Annsyre · 22/04/14 - 09:49

Judge Mental wrote: »

So what? Other countries without a state religion seem to manage perfectly well to run a legal system.

I prefer our system.

Judge Mental · 22/04/14 - 09:50

Annsyre wrote: »

I prefer our system.

For what reason. What does the Christian underpinning do?

alan29 · 22/04/14 - 09:53

Had a quick scan of the gospels looking for the bits where Jesus tells his followers to scapegoat the sick, the poor and immigrants.
I haven't found them yet. Perhaps someone could point me to the right chapter and verse.

SnowStorm86 · 22/04/14 - 09:58

alan29 wrote: »

Had a quick scan of the gospels looking for the bits where Jesus tells his followers to scapegoat the sick, the poor and immigrants.
I haven't found them yet. Perhaps someone could point me to the right chapter and verse.

Look for the passages where Jesus talks about Big Society.

rusty123 · 22/04/14 - 10:05

onecitizen wrote: »

Politicians like anyone else should be perfectly entitled to express their religious beliefs. I don't have a problem with it. There does seem to be an almost fascistic aethiest tendency amongst the chattering classes to shout down anyone who professes a Christian faith. Note that these people attack Christians but not other religious groups, they are far too clever/cowardly to do that.;-)

I've noticed a lot of Christian groups use the "why you picking on me and not him" line to try and deflect the argument away from their particular faith. They claim the moral high ground (they being all religious groups) not only over us non believers but each other all the time so it would be a bit rich complaining about being "shouted down" as you put it - they've been looking down their respective noses on non club member for centuries.

What intrigues me more is the BS the chattering classes come out with when a politician says something personal

Hey there!

Quick Links

Miliband - UK a Christian country

Comments