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Why was the shot school girl operated on in the UK?

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    BerBer Posts: 24,562
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    ennui wrote: »
    Could you direct me to the post no# that explains why the hospitals, clinics and specialist medical facilities of Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Dubai, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates (all a modest short haul flight from pakistan) were not offered or utilised to provide the treatment, because I can't find the reason from looking at the first page.

    Because a doctor from the unit that specialises in treating this kind of injury was in pakistan AND OFFERED HIS SERVICES TO TREAT HER.

    Maybe it would have been more cost effective to fly out his medical team and specialist equipment to the ME but I doubt it.
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    mazzy50mazzy50 Posts: 13,305
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    Ber wrote: »
    Because a doctor from the unit that specialises in treating this kind of injury was in pakistan AND OFFERED HIS SERVICES TO TREAT HER.

    Maybe it would have been more cost effective to fly out his medical team and specialist equipment to the ME but I doubt it.

    I'm now waiting for an FM to suggest that if the doctor likes "them" that much perhaps he should go and live in Pakistan. It's surely only a question of time the way things are going on this thread.
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    marknotgeorgemarknotgeorge Posts: 2,191
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    ennui wrote: »
    Could you direct me to the post no# that explains why the hospitals, clinics and specialist medical facilities of Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Dubai, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates (all a modest short haul flight from pakistan) were not offered or utilised to provide the treatment, because I can't find the reason from looking at the first page.

    Post 15. The UAE provided an air ambulance from Pakistan to the UK. I don't know about the other Arab nations, but I would imagine that if the UAE had the facilities they have at Selly Oak, they would have offered them.

    To be honest, I hope she sticks around for a bit. If I were the governing body of a top-flight university, I'd be a fool if I didn't offer such a bright young woman with a passion for education a place.
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    MuddyMooseMuddyMoose Posts: 1,465
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    ennui wrote: »
    And what of the man who shot her? Can he come and stay here too? After all he now faces the probability of savage mahometan torture followed by an inhuman mahometan execution if he stays in his own country.

    Mahometan?:confused:

    What's one of those?
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    stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    MuddyMoose wrote: »
    Mahometan?:confused:

    What's one of those?

    It's an old-fashioned name for Muslims which most Muslims don't like. It's generally used by people who would rather use a word Muslims don't like than one that's more commonly accepted, for whatever reason.
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    Rip the TV EyeRip the TV Eye Posts: 1,687
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    tysonstorm wrote: »
    This.

    Will she be sent back, however, is another question.

    I believe she has been given leave to stay. From the sounds of it, she wants to go back to Pakistan to campaign for more young women to have access to education.

    She's more guts than me.
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    annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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    darkisland wrote: »
    Not really, health tourism is still health tourism if it impacts on those who been displaced as result.

    who`s it going to impact on and how?
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    spaniel-loverspaniel-lover Posts: 4,188
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    who`s it going to impact on and how?

    Health tourism costs British tax-payers a fortune.
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    BerBer Posts: 24,562
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    Health tourism costs British tax-payers a fortune.

    We are talking about private patients who pay for treatment in this instance.

    Maybe it should be a sticky at the top of every page in this thread if people cant put themselves to the bother of actually following the conversation before chipping in?
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    solenoidsolenoid Posts: 15,495
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    KJ44 wrote: »
    You're arguing as if scarcity and/or waste and/or corruption were built into the NHS. Money coming in pays for more staff and more equipment. In her case, it also had benefits for the image of the NHS and the UK that encourage investment.

    It doesn't pay for their wages. We pay for them, not whoever funds the treatment.

    We also paid for their training.

    It's not meant to be International Health Service.

    :rolleyes:
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    dorydaryldorydaryl Posts: 15,927
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    JB3 wrote: »
    Does this post qualify for the stupidest post of the day award?

    I don't know (re: the post you responded to) but I'd be proud to have a smart young woman like Malala in this country :). I can't understand why people think she would be a 'drain' on 'our' resources. And I'm not one of the PC-gorn-maaaad brigade. I don't want to see her return home only to get shot again after everything that has been done to save her. No 100% guarantee of safety here, either, but there's a greater chance of a nutter wanting to take another pop back in Pakistan. As a side note, it must be so frustrating for the progressive and peace-loving people over there when the entire country gets labelled.
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    JB3JB3 Posts: 9,308
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    dorydaryl wrote: »
    I don't know (re: the post you responded to) but I'd be proud to have a smart young woman like Malala in this country :). I can't understand why people think she would be a 'drain' on 'our' resources. And I'm not one of the PC-gorn-maaaad brigade. I don't want to see her return home only to get shot again after everything that has been done to save her. No 100% guarantee of safety here, either, but there's a greater chance of a nutter wanting to take another pop back in Pakistan. As a side note, it must be so frustrating for the progressive and peace-loving people over there when the entire country gets labelled.
    My post was in respone to an FM who seemed not to have read any of thread but leapt into print anyway with his own brand of xenophobic witterings about the cost/asylum/immigration ect. to tax payers here.
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    StylesStyles Posts: 714
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    People no matter who they are or what is wrong with them should get flown over here for treatment unless they pay the whole ammount and it has no impact on the Brittish publ;ic, they should then go back where they came from.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,924
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    Styles wrote: »
    People no matter who they are or what is wrong with them should get flown over here for treatment unless they pay the whole ammount and it has no impact on the Brittish publ;ic, they should then go back where they came from.

    So you would be quite happy for this child to go home and probably be murdered as soon as word got around that she was back?
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,531
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    Styles wrote: »
    People no matter who they are or what is wrong with them should get flown over here for treatment unless they pay the whole ammount and it has no impact on the Brittish publ;ic, they should then go back where they came from.

    Even if they are or are likely to be a clear economic benefit to this Country? That doesn't sound at all logical.
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    pericompericom Posts: 6,026
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    SMDH at some of these posts in this thread. Some people just read the thread title and use it as another excuse to "foreigner bash".

    Its one of the reason why I dont visit DS much, this websites going down hill.
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    CMCM Posts: 33,235
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    rewind wrote: »
    Before the usual brigade of people enter the thread saying "Why does it matter?", "Why can't she?" etc. my question is a genuine one. Why was the school girl who was shot by the Taliban operated on in a UK hospital? Did she have family ties here?

    Thanks.

    Pass its a mystery :mad:
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,531
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    Well Malala is back at school now, in Birmingham. Very good news and a remarkable recovery so well done to all concerned. I suspect that she will have a bright future ahead of her, I certainly hope so, whichever Country she chooses to live and ultimately to work or campaign in.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21846817
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    WinterLilyWinterLily Posts: 6,305
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    d'@ve wrote: »
    Well Malala is back at school now, in Birmingham. Very good news and a remarkable recovery so well done to all concerned. I suspect that she will have a bright future ahead of her, I certainly hope so, whichever Country she chooses to live and ultimately to work or campaign in.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21846817

    Great news!
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    viertevierte Posts: 4,286
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    d'@ve wrote: »
    Well Malala is back at school now, in Birmingham. Very good news and a remarkable recovery so well done to all concerned. I suspect that she will have a bright future ahead of her, I certainly hope so, whichever Country she chooses to live and ultimately to work or campaign in.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21846817

    Excellent, from skimming this thread it appears the British taxpayer didn't pay for her treatment but I personally would have been more than happy to pay for it. I think she is an amazing girl and we need more people like her in this country. I don't know of any girls her age who have the same morals and drive that she does.
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    lemoncurdlemoncurd Posts: 57,778
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    d'@ve wrote: »
    Well Malala is back at school now, in Birmingham. Very good news and a remarkable recovery so well done to all concerned. I suspect that she will have a bright future ahead of her, I certainly hope so, whichever Country she chooses to live and ultimately to work or campaign in.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21846817

    I know she doesn't particularly want to, but I hope she does stay in the UK. She's very much the type of well-reasoned, vocal campaigner for equality that we need, and she's probably safer campaigning from here than in Pakistan.
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    d'@ve wrote: »
    Well Malala is back at school now, in Birmingham. Very good news and a remarkable recovery so well done to all concerned. I suspect that she will have a bright future ahead of her, I certainly hope so, whichever Country she chooses to live and ultimately to work or campaign in.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21846817

    Great news and I hope she's safe there because the nutjobs vowed to have another pop at her.
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,531
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    Great news and I hope she's safe there because the nutjobs vowed to have another pop at her.

    Security wasn't mentioned in the report but I recall that when she left hospital, security staff were there at the ward entrance door, though only one was clearly shown (with another round the corner). No doubt they were armed, and I'd expect similar arrangements to be in place at the school, with special transport arrangements too.

    All paid for I am sure by the Pakistani authorities, like the hospital expenses. They are going to want to look after this very important young lady for quite a while.
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    d'@ve wrote: »
    Well Malala is back at school now, in Birmingham. Very good news and a remarkable recovery so well done to all concerned. I suspect that she will have a bright future ahead of her, I certainly hope so, whichever Country she chooses to live and ultimately to work or campaign in.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21846817

    fantastic news :)
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    mazzy50mazzy50 Posts: 13,305
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    It is very good news.

    I saw a clip of her on the news talking to her father on the way to school and she really is a remarkable young woman.

    I hope she has the opportunity to complete her education in peace.
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