The proposal is allegedly in the event of civil unrest and disorder or war to hinder those organizing "criminal" activities.
Not much different to what Cameron and May proposed after the London riots, they wanted the power to shut down social media in the event of social unrest or disorder to prevent organization of criminal activity. They dropped this after reaching agreement with providers on how existing powers should be implement at such times.
The proposal is allegedly in the event of civil unrest and disorder or war to hinder those organizing "criminal" activities.
Not much different to what Cameron and May proposed after the London riots, they wanted the power to shut down social media in the event of social unrest or disorder to prevent organization of criminal activity. They dropped this after reaching agreement with providers on how existing powers should be implement at such times.
Indeed. The days of us preaching to other nations about censorship, spying on citizens etc are long gone. The west do the same if not worse (especially on the spying front).
We accused Russia of flying it's planes near passenger aircraft with their transponders switched off, until someone pointed out that NATO does the same near the Russian border.
Every time we say it's disgraceful how these dictators behave, perhaps we should check that we don't do the same first.
The proposal is allegedly in the event of civil unrest and disorder or war to hinder those organizing "criminal" activities.
Not much different to what Cameron and May proposed after the London riots, they wanted the power to shut down social media in the event of social unrest or disorder to prevent organization of criminal activity. They dropped this after reaching agreement with providers on how existing powers should be implement at such times.
It's still a stupid idea that only an idiot could come up with or support.
Russia wants to be a major or super power in the modern world, but if we look at the main powers today America and China they have one thing in common, powerful, diverse economies.
The Soviet Union had lots of land, natural resources and nuclear weapons, but it still lost the cold war by going bankrupt.
If Russia wants to be a major power it needs to focus on it's economy. No one is going to impose sanctions on China are they?
Internet startups, games companies, and so on, based in Russia have been moving out the country since even before the trouble in Ukraine started.
Things got particularly bad a while ago when Russia blocked Github (roughly speaking a cloud service that hosts software projects and static websites, amongst other things), which meant that some companies suddenly lost access to their work! This was just because someone posted something that the Russian government don't approve of on that service.
It shows you how easily such legislation (which we have as well remember) can be abused and cause serious financial trouble for companies and individuals.
Still, Russia's loss is our gain at the moment. London, Berlin and Ukraine are popular locations for these Russian firms to move to.
We accused Russia of flying it's planes near passenger aircraft with their transponders switched off, until someone pointed out that NATO does the same near the Russian border.
Every time we say it's disgraceful how these dictators behave, perhaps we should check that we don't do the same first.
As much as you or I may dislike Putin he is not a dictator.
It's still a stupid idea that only an idiot could come up with or support.
Really ? during the riots people were organising looting and disturbances via BBM, I would say when it is criminal activity and affecting peoples homes and livelihoods ( peoples homes were burned to the ground as were businesses by thugs ) as is what happened here then there is a good reason to temporarily block such a thing
Anything that gets rid of Russian hackers and spammers can only be a good thing.
What about American, British or any other nationality of hacker? Or is it just Russian spammers and hackers you have a problem with? Maybe we should just close the whole world wide web down for that would be an end to hacking
Really ? during the riots people were organising looting and disturbances via BBM, I would say when it is criminal activity and affecting peoples homes and livelihoods ( peoples homes were burned to the ground as were businesses by thugs ) as is what happened here then there is a good reason to temporarily block such a thing
A society that gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.
I dunno. The elections were not considered particularly free or fair. Lots of evidence of rigging IIRC.
Also there's the small issue of him consolidating his power by crushing dissent, which isn't particularly democratic.
Unfortunately Putin won by a massive majority (63% against the second placed candidate, the Communist Party's Zyuganov, who took 17%).
The opposition parties set up an enquiry afterwards to ascertain how much rigging/media favouritism took place, and what percentage of the total vote it represented. They came up with a figure of up to 10%.
Thus even in the unlikely event all of those votes were transferred to Zyuganov, Putin would have still got home easily.
What about American, British or any other nationality of hacker? Or is it just Russian spammers and hackers you have a problem with? Maybe we should just close the whole world wide web down for that would be an end to hacking
No, its only russians I have a problem with.
They hack my software and put the cracks all over the internet.
planes could only be an INCH from airspace and it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference, only if they go over it should be at first given a warning shot, THEN SHOT!
otherwise no one is shutting off any sodding internet .....
15 years but Margaret Thatcher was PM for 11 years and would have liked to have gone on for another term. Did that make her a dictator? If people vote for the same party or leader, then that's the system.
Russia wants to be a major or super power in the modern world, but if we look at the main powers today America and China they have one thing in common, powerful, diverse economies.
The Soviet Union had lots of land, natural resources and nuclear weapons, but it still lost the cold war by going bankrupt.
If Russia wants to be a major power it needs to focus on it's economy. No one is going to impose sanctions on China are they?
....well it doesn't look like it right now, but I wouldn't put money on everything staying sweet with China forever. I think Obamas recent China deal was effectively a sticking plaster on international relations.
A society that gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.
I don't recall saying we should give up freedom at any point, however if you have groups of criminals/thugs for instance arranging looting and arson of innocent peoples property/homes etc via a text message service then does it not make sense to preserve peoples safety , homes and businesses to cut those people off until the situation is under control ? or for the sake of saying we have freedom should we just allow it ? I think most law abiding people would handle a few hours without a thing such as BBM for the benefit of many.
There is a difference between shutting something down for peoples safety and denying access in order to shut people off in general for no good reason other than politics.
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Not much different to what Cameron and May proposed after the London riots, they wanted the power to shut down social media in the event of social unrest or disorder to prevent organization of criminal activity. They dropped this after reaching agreement with providers on how existing powers should be implement at such times.
Indeed. The days of us preaching to other nations about censorship, spying on citizens etc are long gone. The west do the same if not worse (especially on the spying front).
Every time we say it's disgraceful how these dictators behave, perhaps we should check that we don't do the same first.
It's still a stupid idea that only an idiot could come up with or support.
The Soviet Union had lots of land, natural resources and nuclear weapons, but it still lost the cold war by going bankrupt.
If Russia wants to be a major power it needs to focus on it's economy. No one is going to impose sanctions on China are they?
Things got particularly bad a while ago when Russia blocked Github (roughly speaking a cloud service that hosts software projects and static websites, amongst other things), which meant that some companies suddenly lost access to their work! This was just because someone posted something that the Russian government don't approve of on that service.
It shows you how easily such legislation (which we have as well remember) can be abused and cause serious financial trouble for companies and individuals.
Still, Russia's loss is our gain at the moment. London, Berlin and Ukraine are popular locations for these Russian firms to move to.
As much as you or I may dislike Putin he is not a dictator.
I dunno. The elections were not considered particularly free or fair. Lots of evidence of rigging IIRC.
Also there's the small issue of him consolidating his power by crushing dissent, which isn't particularly democratic.
Really ? during the riots people were organising looting and disturbances via BBM, I would say when it is criminal activity and affecting peoples homes and livelihoods ( peoples homes were burned to the ground as were businesses by thugs ) as is what happened here then there is a good reason to temporarily block such a thing
What about American, British or any other nationality of hacker? Or is it just Russian spammers and hackers you have a problem with? Maybe we should just close the whole world wide web down for that would be an end to hacking
Hackers are Head hunted for their talent by governments, corprates and big buisness, a good hacker is worth alot, and paid very well,
A society that gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.
I take it you weren't very happy with Sony's decision to cave in on that movie release then?
Unfortunately Putin won by a massive majority (63% against the second placed candidate, the Communist Party's Zyuganov, who took 17%).
The opposition parties set up an enquiry afterwards to ascertain how much rigging/media favouritism took place, and what percentage of the total vote it represented. They came up with a figure of up to 10%.
Thus even in the unlikely event all of those votes were transferred to Zyuganov, Putin would have still got home easily.
More's the pity.
Remind me just how long he has been in power?
No, its only russians I have a problem with.
They hack my software and put the cracks all over the internet.
otherwise no one is shutting off any sodding internet .....
15 years but Margaret Thatcher was PM for 11 years and would have liked to have gone on for another term. Did that make her a dictator? If people vote for the same party or leader, then that's the system.
....well it doesn't look like it right now, but I wouldn't put money on everything staying sweet with China forever. I think Obamas recent China deal was effectively a sticking plaster on international relations.
Relevance? The Russian electorate have put him where he is.
I don't recall saying we should give up freedom at any point, however if you have groups of criminals/thugs for instance arranging looting and arson of innocent peoples property/homes etc via a text message service then does it not make sense to preserve peoples safety , homes and businesses to cut those people off until the situation is under control ? or for the sake of saying we have freedom should we just allow it ? I think most law abiding people would handle a few hours without a thing such as BBM for the benefit of many.
There is a difference between shutting something down for peoples safety and denying access in order to shut people off in general for no good reason other than politics.