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Police probe 'racist' mural at an Edinburgh primary school

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    MesostimMesostim Posts: 52,864
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    Only one person has complained... the outrage here has reached 132 posts and growing!!!!!

    Incidentally... I thought Golliwogs were an Enid Blyton thing? I hadn't realised that old paedophile Lewis Carroll had them in Alice in Wonderland... in fact I'm convinced he didn't.
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    VoynichVoynich Posts: 14,481
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    Wut? A 132 posts of outrage? Someone hasn't been reading the thread before sticking his tuppence in! :D
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    lionelmortonlionelmorton Posts: 558
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    Blofeld wrote: »
    I just remembered "Santas Workshop" and all the original Tom and Jerry cartoons (well, repeats obviously, I was an 80s child). I used to love all that as a kid. I didn't grow up to hate black people, so does that mean that me seeing a Golliwog or "Mammy" on the screen was a good thing or did it make no difference whatsoever to my upbringing?

    I don't think it makes as big an impact when they re-edit films or bubble wrap new films to miss out the racial elements. For example a film made today about slavery would be a lot more hard hitting and gritty if they included the most offensive words and terms associated with it. If they just bubble wrapped the audience in case muttering that word offended someone then people would leave just thinking "Oh, another movie seen". If they leave with something real in their mind then it's going to have a longer lasting effect and make them think more about what they have just seen.

    Erasing things we now consider offensive out of history would be like telling the story of the Titanic without the Sinking. You would never get the full picture and would never understand why things are the way they are today.

    Indeed.
    Its good that most of the classic animation releases in the US are aimed at adults so include the uncut versions albeit with stupid PC notices telling us how it was so bad to show this even in the 1930's .
    Whoopi Goldberg actually says : "It was wrong then and its wrong now" but there's nobody there to tell her it actually wasn't wrong then which is why Disney made the toons in the first place.

    Unfortunately Disney don't cater for adult sales in the UK and seem to assume all their content is for kids hence their edits that pander to morons such as the complainer in the mural case
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    John RobinsonJohn Robinson Posts: 2,718
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    Blofeld wrote: »
    What do you think painting over a mural created in the 1930's will achieve?

    Will painting over that totally non offensive mural end all racism worldwide and bring peace on Earth? Will all traces of any racially motivated events and crimes be erased from history and all future acts of aggression based on race will be eradicated from time?

    Or will it anger people more because narrow minds have destroyed a great piece of harmless artwork?

    On the contrary, I believe that all this PC anti-racist clap-trap does nothing but exacerbate the problem. It's a pity that the do-gooders cannot see this.
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    RickyBarbyRickyBarby Posts: 5,902
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    On the contrary, I believe that all this PC anti-racist clap-trap does nothing but exacerbate the problem. It's a pity that the do-gooders cannot see this.

    that is very ture what you say:D

    whish there was a like button
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    John RobinsonJohn Robinson Posts: 2,718
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    In a sensible world the complainant would have simply been arrested and charged for wasting police time.

    Wouldn't that be a sensible thing? Unfortunately, the police have been told to prioritise 'certain things' these days. Another thing, I'm sure, that infuriates most people in this country who do not have an axe to grind.
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    Molly BloomMolly Bloom Posts: 2,318
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    Voynich wrote: »
    Wut? A 132 posts of outrage? Someone hasn't been reading the thread before sticking his tuppence in! :D

    When did speaking out against something become being outraged? It used to be seen as a good thing to be passionate.
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    VoynichVoynich Posts: 14,481
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    When did speaking out against something become being outraged? It used to be seen as a good thing to be passionate.

    Plus a few are from Estella and his mad paint brush! :D
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    Molly BloomMolly Bloom Posts: 2,318
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    Voynich wrote: »
    Plus a few are from Estella and his mad paint brush! :D

    Okay, am I exceptionally thick because I do not understand this post at all. :confused::o
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    estrella★estrella★ Posts: 3,714
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    Voynich wrote: »
    Plus a few are from Estella and his mad paint brush! :D

    Mad as in PC-gone-mad, you mean? :D
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    MesostimMesostim Posts: 52,864
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    Voynich wrote: »
    Wut? A 132 posts of outrage? Someone hasn't been reading the thread before sticking his tuppence in! :D

    Seems to have dried up... what was a golliwog doing in Alice in Wonderland anyhoo?
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    Jessica LeMoneJessica LeMone Posts: 419
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    I remember collecting Gollies off the Robinson's Jam jars and sending off for Golly badges. I still have them tucked away out of harms way.
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    VoynichVoynich Posts: 14,481
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    Mad as in PC-gone-mad, you mean? :D

    No. Not that kind of mad. This kind :mad::mad::mad:
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    VoynichVoynich Posts: 14,481
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    Mesostim wrote: »
    Seems to have dried up... what was a golliwog doing in Alice in Wonderland anyhoo?

    The artist is probably long dead, we'll never know why he or she stuck it in.
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    MesostimMesostim Posts: 52,864
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    Voynich wrote: »
    The artist is probably long dead, we'll never know why he or she stuck it in.

    Surely a lot of artists are long dead and yet their art is still the subject of discussion and speculation? :)

    I for one would make a small complaint if a mural were discovered in a Primary School of Gandalf holding back the Lord of the Nazgûl at the gates of Minas Tirith and Noddy was seen waving out of a window. :mad::mad::mad:
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    John RobinsonJohn Robinson Posts: 2,718
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    I remember collecting Gollies off the Robinson's Jam jars and sending off for Golly badges. I still have them tucked away out of harms way.

    Well keep them there and don't broadcast the fact or you'll have a visit from the PC police! :eek:
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    darkislanddarkisland Posts: 3,178
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    On the contrary, I believe that all this PC anti-racist clap-trap does nothing but exacerbate the problem. It's a pity that the do-gooders cannot see this.

    Ditto, I wonder if when today's generation of schoolchildren reach adulthood and begin to understand and experience the real world around them, they'll be quite so keen on the the new 'original sin' which the 'racism' industry tries so hard to bash into them ?
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    sutiesutie Posts: 32,645
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    Northerly wrote: »
    The police should tell her to f off



    Blunt and to the point ...... and I agree completely.
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    VoynichVoynich Posts: 14,481
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    Mesostim wrote: »
    Surely a lot of artists are long dead and yet their art is still the subject of discussion and speculation? :)

    I for one would make a small complaint if a mural were discovered in a Primary School of Gandalf holding back the Lord of the Nazgûl at the gates of Minas Tirith and Noddy was seen waving out of a window. :mad::mad::mad:

    I can only surmise that kind of doll was maybe popular at the time. Like painting Alice with one of those creepy Bratz things these days!
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