I'd disagree about Cole being the better striker, but it's a fair opinion to hold, which is why I thought that it was interesting.
I think it's all subjective isn't it. It's like Zola and Bergkamp being mentioned in the top 5 strikers. They'd get into a top players list maybe but their strike record is simply not up there. If it were a top 5 players list, mine would be very different.
I think it's all subjective isn't it. It's like Zola and Bergkamp being mentioned in the top 5 strikers. They'd get into a top players list maybe but their strike record is simply not up there. If it were a top 5 players list, mine would be very different.
I totally agree with what you're saying, but I think that Henry had it all.
He was a sumptuous finisher, as well as being an all-round great player.
For the record, I'm talking about Thierry, not Karl.
Players like Cole and Shearer played in different era before football evolved, they wouldn't be very sort after in today's game. Thierry Henry WAS the revolution and therefore would top my list. Pace, skill, the complete package. He was on a completely different plain to his competitors at the time.
Players like Cole and Shearer played in different era before football evolved, they wouldn't be very sort after in today's game. Thierry Henry WAS the revolution and therefore would top my list. Pace, skill, the complete package. He was on a completely different plain to his competitors at the time.
Do you really think that?
Shearer especially would be sought after in any era, in my opinion. The bloke was a machine.
I think it's all subjective isn't it. It's like Zola and Bergkamp being mentioned in the top 5 strikers. They'd get into a top players list maybe but their strike record is simply not up there. If it were a top 5 players list, mine would be very different.
Yes, I agree with what you say about players and strikers, which is why I made two lists separating the two different types.
Players like Cole and Shearer played in different era before football evolved, they wouldn't be very sort after in today's game. Thierry Henry WAS the revolution and therefore would top my list. Pace, skill, the complete package. He was on a completely different plain to his competitors at the time.
Different era ?..it wasn't that long ago !
Henry was a converted winger with blistering pace, so he was a different type of striker that's all. Henry and Shearer could be guaranteed to get you goals in any era.
But there is still a demand for the bustling front man who can hold the ball up, and there are still plenty of sought-after strikers like Shearer around... Cavani, Falcao, Costa, etc.
I didn't rate Cole so highly, but that's just a matter of opinion. To me he was just an opportunist in the box, but a very good one.
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I'd disagree about Cole being the better striker, but it's a fair opinion to hold, which is why I thought that it was interesting.
I think it's all subjective isn't it. It's like Zola and Bergkamp being mentioned in the top 5 strikers. They'd get into a top players list maybe but their strike record is simply not up there. If it were a top 5 players list, mine would be very different.
I totally agree with what you're saying, but I think that Henry had it all.
He was a sumptuous finisher, as well as being an all-round great player.
For the record, I'm talking about Thierry, not Karl.
Henry
Bergkamp
Shearer
Zola
Do you really think that?
Shearer especially would be sought after in any era, in my opinion. The bloke was a machine.
I wouldn't say he had it all, he was suspect with his head, he never got that many with it for a player of his stature perhaps should have done.
But I guess that I am nit-picking really.
Yes, I agree with what you say about players and strikers, which is why I made two lists separating the two different types.
Different era ?..it wasn't that long ago !
Henry was a converted winger with blistering pace, so he was a different type of striker that's all. Henry and Shearer could be guaranteed to get you goals in any era.
But there is still a demand for the bustling front man who can hold the ball up, and there are still plenty of sought-after strikers like Shearer around... Cavani, Falcao, Costa, etc.
I didn't rate Cole so highly, but that's just a matter of opinion. To me he was just an opportunist in the box, but a very good one.
Neither were Bergkamp or Zola.
That's not the point. If it was, you may as well just list the top 5 scorers in Premier League history, and be done with it.
Goals win games and it's important for strikers to score goals. Striking means scoring.
The best strikers have the best goals per game ratio.
If you are asking for the best forwards the criteria would be different.
Cantona
Henry
Fowler
Bergkamp
Most from the same era.
Indeed. Shearer was still hitting 20+ a season in his 30s during Henry's prime!
Cantona
Shearer
Suarez
Van Nistelroy
Henry
There is no criteria other than the one you're making up.
Bergkamp
Shearer
Henry
Van Nistelrooy
Drogba
Bottom 5
Bellion
Heskey
Bendtner
Bebe
Balaban
Dear me.
Are you always that pedantic?
Everyone else has understood the spirit of the thread, without needing that clarification of the subtle difference between 'striker' and 'forward'.
I even said in the OP, make your own criteria when you give your list.
Oh dear. I prefer the word accurate to pedantic.
Well in that case my criteria for a good striker is the ability to score goals and have a good goals per game ratio.
Fair enough.
Then I take it that you think that Peter Crouch is England's best striker of the modern era, yes?
Certainly since Shearer and Owen.
Drogba
Torres
Zola
Hasselbaink
5 Chelsea strikers (or 'forwards', for the pedantic). What a huge surprise.
Bergkamp
Shearer
Cantona
Drogba
Honourable mentions
Owen
Fowler
Cole
Suarez
Zola