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UKIP MEP suspended over finances

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    BoyardBoyard Posts: 5,393
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    Ennerjee wrote: »
    Unlike Douglas Carswell and Mark Reckless, Amjad Bashir will not have the courage to resign his MEP seat and stand as a Tory.

    Perhaps he could put himself forward as a prospective Conservative Parliamentary Candidate in time for 7th May by standing for a seat somewhere in Yorkshire?

    Exactly right... Carswell & Reckless sought re-election after defection, so should Bashir. I bet he doesn’t though.

    What's more telling is that he's being investigated, yet Tories welcome him back with open arms.
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    MeepersMeepers Posts: 5,502
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    Boyard wrote: »
    Exactly right... Carswell & Reckless sought re-election after defection, so should Bashir. I bet he doesn’t though.

    What's more telling is that he's being investigated, yet Tories welcome him back with open arms.

    Why should he? There is no obligation in law or constituional history to do it? Carswell and Reckless did it to get publicity for UKIP. Politicians have been swapping for years, never had by elections for them before.

    Furthermore it would be an utter waste of money, it isnt 1 small constituency, as its based on regional list systems you'd have to re run an entire region and that wouldnt just change Bashir's seat, it would change other MEPs who have done nothing wrong
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    MattNMattN Posts: 2,534
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    Boyard wrote: »
    Exactly right... Carswell & Reckless sought re-election after defection, so should Bashir. I bet he doesn’t though.

    What's more telling is that he's being investigated, yet Tories welcome him back with open arms.

    You don't have EU by-election's

    If an mep resigns the party he is simply replaced
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Boyard wrote: »
    Exactly right... Carswell & Reckless sought re-election after defection, so should Bashir. I bet he doesn’t though.

    What's more telling is that he's being investigated, yet Tories welcome him back with open arms.

    Carswell and Reckless stood for re-election in their own previous constituencies. And each of them was an established M.P.

    Bashir is not in the same situation.
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    JerrybobJerrybob Posts: 1,685
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    Farage is being interviewed on the Marr programme today. Perhaps he will shed some light on the matter.

    He did indeed! His MEPs were begging him to get rid of Bashir last November. Said they had plenty of documentary evidence against him. Reckon Cameron might just regret welcoming him with open arms...could be hugely embarrassing for them.
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Jerrybob wrote: »
    He did indeed! His MEPs were begging him to get rid of Bashir last November. Said they had plenty of documentary evidence against him. Reckon Cameron might just regret welcoming him with open arms...could be hugely embarrassing for them.

    But nothing has been proved against Bashir has it?

    It was his sons who are alleged to have been employing illegal immigrants not Bashir.

    Farage also said that what people say in pubs is not to be taken seriously - they are just joking.
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    BoyardBoyard Posts: 5,393
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    Farage said he had links to Pakistani terrorist groups and supported Pakistani blasphemy laws.
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    allaortaallaorta Posts: 19,050
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    But nothing has been proved against Bashir has it?

    It was his sons who are alleged to have been employing illegal immigrants not Bashir.

    Farage also said that what people say in pubs is not to be taken seriously - they are just joking.

    There are also allegations regarding his connection to certain people in Pakistan.
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    pedrokpedrok Posts: 16,769
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    Boyard wrote: »
    Farage said he had links to Pakistani terrorist groups and supported Pakistani blasphemy laws.

    And Farage backed this allegation with evidence?
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    nainznainz Posts: 1,777
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    Going by the local new bulletin on the radio, Farage on Marr did a pretty good gob of shifting the glare away from UKIP and has opened up the question of why the Conservatives have accepted this man.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,916
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    nainz wrote: »
    Going by the local new bulletin on the radio, Farage on Marr did a pretty good gob of shifting the glare away from UKIP and has opened up the question of why the Conservatives have accepted this man.

    To try and show that UKIP are not as credible and that many of their members will now defect to Conservatives as a result. The problem here is that Cameron did not first see the tainted package that he has welcomed with open arms. Strangely, Tory HQ fell silent as soon as the claims came to light. This is a massive own goal for Cameron and could actually work in UKIP's favour, as they can look like the good guys by booting him out and point to the Tories as a party of sleaze.
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    allaortaallaorta Posts: 19,050
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    Maybe the relevant part is this:

    The London Metropolitan Police have MQM leaders under investigation in relation to money laundering.

    Maybe that's what UKIP referred to as "financial" matters.
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    SteganStegan Posts: 5,039
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    nainz wrote: »
    Going by the local new bulletin on the radio, Farage on Marr did a pretty good gob of shifting the glare away from UKIP and has opened up the question of why the Conservatives have accepted this man.

    Which is a very valid question. We know why of course, because Cameron is only interested in scoring what he thinks is a political point. He is prepared, it appears, to overlook the serious allegations outlined quite clearly on the Andrew Marr Show by UKIP's Nigel Farage.
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    pedrokpedrok Posts: 16,769
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    Yes, thanks for that. Not what I asked for though.

    So I will repeat, when Farage claimed he had links to Pakistani terrorist groups, he supported this claim with evidence?
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    BoyardBoyard Posts: 5,393
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    pedrok wrote: »
    Yes, thanks for that. Not what I asked for though.

    So I will repeat, when Farage claimed he had links to Pakistani terrorist groups, he supported this claim with evidence?

    Erm, the video footage of him with sitting there with them that was just posted to you in that link?
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    pedrokpedrok Posts: 16,769
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    Just for the record, I have no time for this MEP, Cameron, Farage, UKIP or the tories. A plague of boils on all of them.

    But isn't it interesting that these allegations appear last night, just as he defects! Not Friday night, but last night.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,916
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    pedrok wrote: »
    Yes, thanks for that. Not what I asked for though.

    So I will repeat, when Farage claimed he had links to Pakistani terrorist groups, he supported this claim with evidence?

    Is that video not enough for you then?
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    SteganStegan Posts: 5,039
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    To try and show that UKIP are not as credible and that many of their members will now defect to Conservatives as a result. The problem here is that Cameron did not first see the tainted package that he has welcomed with open arms. Strangely, Tory HQ fell silent as soon as the claims came to light. This is a massive own goal for Cameron and could actually work in UKIP's favour, as they can look like the good guys by booting him out and point to the Tories as a party of sleaze.

    Absolutely. UKIP, once again, show themselves to be a party of integrity, whilst the Conservatives appear to be, once again, showing themselves to be quite the opposite.
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    pedrokpedrok Posts: 16,769
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    Boyard wrote: »
    Erm, the video footage of him with sitting there with them that was just posted to you in that link?

    I am asking what evidence Farage presented this morning.
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    BoyardBoyard Posts: 5,393
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    pedrok wrote: »
    Just for the record, I have no time for this MEP, Cameron, Farage, UKIP or the tories. A plague of boils on all of them.

    But isn't it interesting that these allegations appear last night, just as he defects! Not Friday night, but last night.

    He didn't defect. They kicked him out before he joined the Tories FYI.
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    pedrokpedrok Posts: 16,769
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    Is that video not enough for you then?

    I repeat, what evidence did Farage present this morning.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,916
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    pedrok wrote: »
    I repeat, what evidence did Farage present this morning.

    Why does he need to produce anything, when it's already in the public domain?
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    pedrokpedrok Posts: 16,769
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    Boyard wrote: »
    They kicked him out before he joined the Tories FYI.

    And yet it was also reported that he was kicked out only after he left!
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    pedrokpedrok Posts: 16,769
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    Why does he need to produce anything, when it's already in the public domain?

    Because it is Farage that has made that accusation.
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