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So when Wagner wins and the XFactor is no more......
HelenTherese
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...what will have been achieved?
I'm just wondering why people are so desparate to 'bring down Cowell and the show'.
What else would we do on a Saturday night?
If people don't like the way the show is being done then why watch? I don't like Eastenders or Coronation Street but I'm not going to be launching any Internet campaigns any time soon.
I'm not trying to say people shouldn't watch and/or vote in whichever way they want, after all it's still a free country. I just don't know why anyone would bother.
I'm just wondering why people are so desparate to 'bring down Cowell and the show'.
What else would we do on a Saturday night?
If people don't like the way the show is being done then why watch? I don't like Eastenders or Coronation Street but I'm not going to be launching any Internet campaigns any time soon.
I'm not trying to say people shouldn't watch and/or vote in whichever way they want, after all it's still a free country. I just don't know why anyone would bother.
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the whole thing is a joke now... so vote for the joker
The illusion of viewer control is slipping too, and I think this is going to be incredibly damaging to the show in the long run; IMO the only way they could fix it would be to relaunch the show properly, getting rid of the manipulation and bias towards certain contestants, and bringing in actually talented singers. They won't even consider doing this if somebody like Matt or Rebecca wins, though, because that would just fit the script of TXF and there'll be no pressing reason for them to change it.
But if you think it's a joke then why watch? And even more spend money on it?
Because they are spoilers. Like people who write computer viruses, people who smash up childrens playgrounds, those who break into houses and steal Christmas presents.
You have to conform to what these people like or they will wreck what you value.
Well don't know about the computer virus one, but smashing up children's playgrounds sounds more like Cher.
And I'd never leave my Christmas presents around Katie.
You are so right. Personally, I've spent the last week beating up the disabled and stealing purses from old women. :rolleyes:
get a grip Malc.... they vote for a guy on tv... thats all.....
Do you take pills for the that paranoia?... I'm worried for you mate
The show might get a much needed reboot.
1.100k prize instead of a contract
2.no more joke acts make it into bootcamp.
3.3rd party producers have an input on who makes the live shows.
I reckon if it hadn't been for the Gamu thing then this whole bandwagon of 'it's a fix' wouldn't have been nearly so huge and people wouldn't be so quick to complain.
I'm also not sure that re-modelling the show wouldn't have happened anyway. If Wagner wins then they can do a big re-launch and get even more viewers than this year. If he doesn't they may well change the format like they generally do anyway.
You think?
I think the exact opposite.
Cowell is a TV producer much more than he is a music man.
This years his best ever, biggest audience, biggest publicity.
Next year will see more 'joke' and 'publicity machine' acts like Katie and wagner, not less.
Joke acts wil be banned now, Louis Walsh will probably be warned about this as part of his future participation in the show
I think cowells main worry would be the overlap between BGT and TXF.
im just waiting for the Dancing dogs to appear whilst Wagner is howling on stage
Ah lots will not have enough money for Christmas themselves but SC will sipping wine and just laughing at those who thought it would matter to him. He has their mone from the votes
So Wagner fans are succeeding in what he set out to do - ruin the show
classic..........I hope its not a spoiler?
Hi Oathy *waves* I know or clowns
I think the manipulation started last year, with Jedward especially, but it's becoming a lot more obvious this year. I mean - okay, obviously it's always been manipulated, but this year it feels different. Gamu was a mistake, but they could have turned it around by presenting a more credible live show, and they've failed to do so.
Katie wouldn't have been saved from the bottom two four times in any other year (in fact, no other contestant has ever been saved more than three times); there used to be some criticism of actual vocals in the judges' comments, but now Dannii is the only one who mentions them; acts are built up as amazingly talented when, actually, they're nothing special; and, IMO worst of all, the most talented contestants (Storm, John, TreyC, Paije) were billed as cannon fodder before they'd even sung a note.
Exactly - its laughable that WV think they are irratating Cowell - the only people they are pissing off is the audience - Cowell will simply sign 2nd/ 3rd place. Wagner will be dropped and the show will go into oblvion whilst Simon works on US X Factor
It would not suprise me that Wagner was a 'plant' and is doing exactly what SC has seemingly, asked him to do. LOL Well at least the Wagner fans are providing the vote money.;)
It's why they are voting. They don't even watch the show, they just get given the number and dial away.
I know and he does not have to use the winner at all or do anythihg too much either.;)
Really?
I dont.
I think hes only interested in viewing figures, and hes getting more by having this style of show than a more serious one.
This show is built around wagner and katie, from the ground up, and the assumption hes annoyed with wagner being there is simply laughable, the more the tabloids lap it up, the more people watch, the happier he is, if having 1 joke act and one controversial tabloid victim does this, next year he will have two.
He gives people what they want, they seem to want this, so next year they will, just more.
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