I am absolutely sure that none of the scurrilous accusations currently circulating about Liz are true, someone who participates in such recreational activities would have by now displayed very obvious warning signs such as:
- Earning vast amounts of money (e.g. £500,000 p.a) and yet be constantly 'broke'.
- Be capable of working continuous long hours with little or no sleep (e.g. 21 hours per day)
- Have very little appetite for food and yet have a great deal of energy.
- Have a tenuous grip on reality (e.g. forgetting what they have previously written, how many years ago they last saw their current partner, believe that they have dated a world famous rock star for 3 years who nobody has seen her with).
- Completing forgetting about ones 113 pets
The cruel and false rumours circulating today have ruined my Sunday, I hope the jellus h8ters behind these rumours are thoroughly ashamed!
I am absolutely sure that none of the scurrilous accusations currently circulating about Liz are true, someone who participates in such recreational activities would have by now displayed very obvious warning signs such as:
- Earning vast amounts of money (e.g. £500,000 p.a) and yet be constantly 'broke'.
- Be capable of working continuous long hours with little or no sleep (e.g. 21 hours per day)
- Have very little appetite for food and yet have a great deal of energy.
- Have a tenuous grip on reality (e.g. forgetting what they have previously written, how many years ago they last saw their current partner, believe that they have dated a world famous rock star for 3 years who nobody has seen her with).
- Completing forgetting about ones 113 pets
The cruel and false rumours circulating today have ruined my Sunday, I hope the jellus h8ters behind these rumours are thoroughly ashamed!
She has really done it now, for goodness sake she has infiltrated THE ARCHERS is nothing sacred from her latching on to successful serials and rendering them nothing with her skewed viewpoint.
this is treason
Agreed :mad:
Hubby buys the mail on sunday (for the crossword he says) and when I pulled one of the mags out, there she was on the cover staring back at me. WITH the cast of the Archers. Grrrrrrr.
I am absolutely sure that none of the scurrilous accusations currently circulating about Liz are true, someone who participates in such recreational activities would have by now displayed very obvious warning signs such as:
- Earning vast amounts of money (e.g. £500,000 p.a) and yet be constantly 'broke'.
- Be capable of working continuous long hours with little or no sleep (e.g. 21 hours per day)
- Have very little appetite for food and yet have a great deal of energy.
- Have a tenuous grip on reality (e.g. forgetting what they have previously written, how many years ago they last saw their current partner, believe that they have dated a world famous rock star for 3 years who nobody has seen her with).
- Completing forgetting about ones 113 pets
The cruel and false rumours circulating today have ruined my Sunday, I hope the jellus h8ters behind these rumours are thoroughly ashamed!
Thanks Alas, not a great quality photo though. I could barely make out it was her (unless I'm looking in the wrong place which more than likely) never mind what she's doing/has done. Drat!
I really, really, REALLY wished I was online early this morning and caught the link before it was deleted
Just had a look at the diary page and to my surprise LOADS of the comments mention drugs - it's a great read :cool::D
I was having my own quiet smirk at the fact she reprimanded the writer of the Archers for having an episode on sheep worrying dogs, meanwhile all this was going on.
That'll teach me to ignore the Dreary and it's comments.
Wait, she attacked the Archers? I haven't listened to it in years and years but surely the Archers is one of the most inoffensive things on the planet?
Wait, she attacked the Archers? I haven't listened to it in years and years but surely the Archers is one of the most inoffensive things on the planet?
The woman really is deranged.
They are currently running a story about dogs being let off leads (which scared some sheep) and a disease that can be caused by dog poo (amongst other things) which causes a disease in cows which means they have to be culled.
So The Archers are bad because they are highlighting that you shouldn't let you dog off the lead on other peoples land and that you should clean up after your dog has taken a dump.
You know, what responsible dog owners SHOULD be doing.
Whereas Liz has admitted in her column that her dogs have worried and caused injuries to another farmers sheep and possibly even killed an animal whilst off the lead.
Wait, she attacked the Archers? I haven't listened to it in years and years but surely the Archers is one of the most inoffensive things on the planet?
The woman really is deranged.
She didn't really attack it?? She has recorded a guest appearance. I'm not an Archers fan, but those who are have told me that she clearly isn't as she got much of the detail wrong.
She had this to say, but doesn't have a go at it (from what I could tell):
The Archers, which has always been recorded in the Midlands, first went on air as part of post-war government propaganda to inform listeners of the valiant job being done in the fields to feed the populace. I tell her I still feel, occasionally, that the script sounds like an infomercial.
Such as the recent episode about dogs worrying sheep containing the line: ‘I’m calling the police! Sheep-worrying is a criminal offence!’
Or the story about Darrell (jailbird carpenter, played by Dan Hagley) getting on his feet after prison, trying to rent a house, looking for a job online.
‘We lost our educational, informational brief in the early 1990s,’ Joanna tells me. ‘But maybe, sometimes, it’s a bit heavy-handed.’
They are currently running a story about dogs being let off leads (which scared some sheep) and a disease that can be caused by dog poo (amongst other things) which causes a disease in cows which means they have to be culled.
So The Archers are bad because they are highlighting that you shouldn't let you dog off the lead on other peoples land and that you should clean up after your dog has taken a dump.
You know, what responsible dog owners SHOULD be doing.
Whereas Liz has admitted in her column that her dogs have worried and caused injuries to another farmers sheep and possibly even killed an animal whilst off the lead.
Good on the Archers. Too many arseholes where I live flaunt their dogs not being on leads, and let them crap everywhere including children's play areas and near a school. Winds me up like nothing else.
So OF COURSE the hateful fishwife from hell Liz Jones would be against any kind of anti- message. Does she still have her ten thousand animals? She hasn't mentioned them in ages, at least not since she turned the Dreary into a poor man's Mills & Boone...
Over the past few months I’ve been taking a long, cold look at my ‘habits’.
As someone who seeks order in my life, I’ve taken to looking at my web-browsing activities… and much to my horror I find that the 'Daily Mail’ happens to be very close to the top of my most-visited sites. That’s very worrying to me, because that paper actually represents most of what I abhor in life. Any kind of media ‘habit’ is one that I can do without, but I’d prefer that if I did have one it would be more focused on ‘The Independent’ rather than the ‘Daily Mail’, but such is life...
What concerns me more than anything about my navel-gazing, is that my reason for dipping in to the DM appears not to be for the purposes of titillation or cocking-a-snook at the British lower-middle-class; nor is it to find examples of the paper’s hypocrisy, like supporting campaigns against pornography whilst simultaneously publishing countless photos of ‘side-boob’ shots from their supported paparazzi.
My problem - and I’m sad to admit it - is that I’m actually addicted to Liz Jones...
If anyone at DM analyses my website activity, they’ll find that I take a cursory look through the headlines and then do a search for ‘Liz Jones’ and rank it based upon ‘Most Recent’. That’s worrying to me as I’m currently unable to gain sufficient distance to visually frame myself as someone seeking out and reading, much less responding to this drivel.
I could describe my obsession as a ‘guilty-pleasure’, but a more fitting description for my activity would be a ‘rubber-necker’, because every time I read a Liz Jones article I see myself as one of those motorway drivers that cause traffic-jams for no other reason than slowing-down to gawp at a roadside accident.
My life experiences thus far have taught me that being contrarian is a positive trait, but with Liz I find myself drawn into the abyss inhabited by the masses, and temporarily I obtain a certain ‘sick-satisfaction’ from it. Then I do feel physically sick.
You’ll appreciate from this that I’m terribly conflicted…
Part of me wants to jump on the bandwagon and ‘rip the piss’ out of her, which I frequently do… then I feel guilty because the other part of me sees her as a totally lost, fearful soul reacting to life the only way she knows. She may be one who has sold her soul for rock’n’roll (albeit previously to an imaginary rock-star, and more recently to ’Two-ton Ted from Teddington who drives the baker’s van’), but the other part sympathises with her crap life decisions in that a £500k pay-cheque from the DM - as a pact with Mephistopheles - is one destined for disaster.
My thoughts about the possibility of ‘money for nothing and chicks for free’ went out the window when MTV, Dire Straits and Sting came in… but I I’m fascinated to know how and why someone from my age-related peer-group did. Lizard may be 53 - or thereabouts - but she’s got the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old, and I struggle with how to relate to that dynamic.
I sense that many of you posting on here will relate to some of these thoughts.
Over the past few months I’ve been taking a long, cold look at my ‘habits’.
As someone who seeks order in my life, I’ve taken to looking at my web-browsing activities… and much to my horror I find that the 'Daily Mail’ happens to be very close to the top of my most-visited sites. That’s very worrying to me, because that paper actually represents most of what I abhor in life. Any kind of media ‘habit’ is one that I can do without, but I’d prefer that if I did have one it would be more focused on ‘The Independent’ rather than the ‘Daily Mail’, but such is life...
What concerns me more than anything about my navel-gazing, is that my reason for dipping in to the DM appears not to be for the purposes of titillation or cocking-a-snook at the British lower-middle-class; nor is it to find examples of the paper’s hypocrisy, like supporting campaigns against pornography whilst simultaneously publishing countless photos of ‘side-boob’ shots from their supported paparazzi.
My problem - and I’m sad to admit it - is that I’m actually addicted to Liz Jones...
If anyone at DM analyses my website activity, they’ll find that I take a cursory look through the headlines and then do a search for ‘Liz Jones’ and rank it based upon ‘Most Recent’. That’s worrying to me as I’m currently unable to gain sufficient distance to visually frame myself as someone seeking out and reading, much less responding to this drivel.
I could describe my obsession as a ‘guilty-pleasure’, but a more fitting description for my activity would be a ‘rubber-necker’, because every time I read a Liz Jones article I see myself as one of those motorway drivers that cause traffic-jams for no other reason than slowing-down to gawp at a roadside accident.
My life experiences thus far have taught me that being contrarian is a positive trait, but with Liz I find myself drawn into the abyss inhabited by the masses, and temporarily I obtain a certain ‘sick-satisfaction’ from it. Then I do feel physically sick.
You’ll appreciate from this that I’m terribly conflicted…
Part of me wants to jump on the bandwagon and ‘rip the piss’ out of her, which I frequently do… then I feel guilty because the other part of me sees her as a totally lost, fearful soul reacting to life the only way she knows. She may be one who has sold her soul for rock’n’roll (albeit previously to an imaginary rock-star, and more recently to ’Two-ton Ted from Teddington who drives the baker’s van’), but the other part sympathises with her crap life decisions in that a £500k pay-cheque from the DM - as a pact with Mephistopheles - is one destined for disaster.
My thoughts about the possibility of ‘money for nothing and chicks for free’ went out the window when MTV, Dire Straits and Sting came in… but I I’m fascinated to know how and why someone from my age-related peer-group did. Lizard may be 53 - or thereabouts - but she’s got the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old, and I struggle with how to relate to that dynamic.
I sense that many of you posting on here will relate to some of these thoughts.
Naive? You can't really have been reading her 'work' and think she's naive. May I direct you to one or two cynical attention-seeking trollworty clickbait articles?
These are just the three I remember off the top of my head, I'm sure other FMs can think of many more examples. She's the worst of the DM, a lying, judgmental, shallow bitch (in the nastiest sense of the word).
Naive? You can't really have been reading her 'work' and think she's naive. May I direct you to one or two cynical attention-seeking trollworty clickbait articles?
These are just the three I remember off the top of my head, I'm sure other FMs can think of many more examples. She's the worst of the DM, a lying, judgmental, shallow bitch (in the nastiest sense of the word).
You are so right, Fatsia. Liz Jones is not naive at all - she knows exactly what she is doing. Time and again she destroys friendships and relationships by writing in great detail about things that are private and should not be splashed around in print. She writes about details that no normal adult would reveal - Mr Curmudgeon is right in that she does have the emotional intelligence of a 12-year-old, but she is well aware of what she is doing. People ask, tell, beg her not to write about them and what does she go straight out and do? All the while telling us that she is doing it against the wishes of the subject. It is not just trivial matters she lets slip, either, but often deeply personal details that by the divulging she hurts people. Her family appear not to speak to her any longer. Why should that be? Not because she is naive but because she knowingly continues to publish private matters against their wishes. Probably for other reasons too that they, being infinitely more discreet than Liz, chose not to discuss in public.
Liz Jones's columns are car-crash journalism. Difficult to turn your eyes from them but unpleasant and destructive.
More than half of this column consists of the contents of a private letter (or email, it's not made clear) regarding the details of her nephew's funeral. It's not enough that she lets someone else write most of her diary, but she uses such a communication? That is not, in my view, acceptable.
Naive? You can't really have been reading her 'work' and think she's naive. May I direct you to one or two cynical attention-seeking trollworty clickbait articles?
These are just the three I remember off the top of my head, I'm sure other FMs can think of many more examples. She's the worst of the DM, a lying, judgmental, shallow bitch (in the nastiest sense of the word).
Blimey Fatsia, you should be a DM journo yourself... don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. I can't see anywhere in my posting that I've referred to Lizard as 'naive'.
I guess the other point that I'd make and one that frequently occurs to me is that if there were no rubber-neckers, there would be no traffic jam. May be if people like us didn't bother reading her, she'd be in obscurity rather than in a job earning £500k a year !
Over the past few months I’ve been taking a long, cold look at my ‘habits’.
As someone who seeks order in my life, I’ve taken to looking at my web-browsing activities… and much to my horror I find that the 'Daily Mail’ happens to be very close to the top of my most-visited sites. That’s very worrying to me, because that paper actually represents most of what I abhor in life. Any kind of media ‘habit’ is one that I can do without, but I’d prefer that if I did have one it would be more focused on ‘The Independent’ rather than the ‘Daily Mail’, but such is life...
What concerns me more than anything about my navel-gazing, is that my reason for dipping in to the DM appears not to be for the purposes of titillation or cocking-a-snook at the British lower-middle-class; nor is it to find examples of the paper’s hypocrisy, like supporting campaigns against pornography whilst simultaneously publishing countless photos of ‘side-boob’ shots from their supported paparazzi.
My problem - and I’m sad to admit it - is that I’m actually addicted to Liz Jones...
If anyone at DM analyses my website activity, they’ll find that I take a cursory look through the headlines and then do a search for ‘Liz Jones’ and rank it based upon ‘Most Recent’. That’s worrying to me as I’m currently unable to gain sufficient distance to visually frame myself as someone seeking out and reading, much less responding to this drivel.
I could describe my obsession as a ‘guilty-pleasure’, but a more fitting description for my activity would be a ‘rubber-necker’, because every time I read a Liz Jones article I see myself as one of those motorway drivers that cause traffic-jams for no other reason than slowing-down to gawp at a roadside accident.
My life experiences thus far have taught me that being contrarian is a positive trait, but with Liz I find myself drawn into the abyss inhabited by the masses, and temporarily I obtain a certain ‘sick-satisfaction’ from it. Then I do feel physically sick.
You’ll appreciate from this that I’m terribly conflicted…
Part of me wants to jump on the bandwagon and ‘rip the piss’ out of her, which I frequently do… then I feel guilty because the other part of me sees her as a totally lost, fearful soul reacting to life the only way she knows. She may be one who has sold her soul for rock’n’roll (albeit previously to an imaginary rock-star, and more recently to ’Two-ton Ted from Teddington who drives the baker’s van’), but the other part sympathises with her crap life decisions in that a £500k pay-cheque from the DM - as a pact with Mephistopheles - is one destined for disaster.
My thoughts about the possibility of ‘money for nothing and chicks for free’ went out the window when MTV, Dire Straits and Sting came in… but I I’m fascinated to know how and why someone from my age-related peer-group did. Lizard may be 53 - or thereabouts - but she’s got the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old, and I struggle with how to relate to that dynamic.
I sense that many of you posting on here will relate to some of these thoughts.
Tough going though your post is,the selected text to me strongly suggests you think her naive rather than malicious.
If that is the case, I disagree and I think so does Fatsia. I don't think the fact that clarity of expression lost the battle to elaborate presentation actually makes us any more wrong than you are Mr C:D:D:D
As a matter of interest does anyone on here know how she's getting on in North Yorkshire ?
As someone living in the north of England myself, I did a double-take when I heard that she was moving her zoo to a village in Yorkshire, as I would have thought her likely period of residence in God's own county would have been even less than in Dulverton. I can't imagine locals taking to her at all.
As a matter of interest does anyone on here know how she's getting on in North Yorkshire ?
As someone living in the north of England myself, I did a double-take when I heard that she was moving her zoo to a village in Yorkshire, as I would have thought her likely period of residence in God's own county would have been even less than in Dulverton. I can't imagine locals taking to her at all.
I doubt most of us know any more than you Mr C, but it might be a 'White Christmas' for Liz in Reeth this year.
How caring for a zoo of 113 animals equate with her 21 hour days I've no idea, but the saying that things go better with 'it' might be the answer.
Fatsia and vampyre - agree with you both. Liz is far from naive - she knows exactly what she's doing.
Is this thread being weird for anyone else? I posted a reply to Mr Curmudgeon (no idea why as they are clearly wanting a fight) and it hasn't shown up.
I think if you read my original posting, you'll see that I came into this to gain an answer to questions that were bothering me.
May be you see them as a precursor to starting a fight, but that was never the case. 'Stirring the pot' is a bit more difficult to deflect, because I'm asking contributors here to comment upon my own feelings.
I'm not in any way 'invested' in how Liz Jones's ramblings are received. I'm not involved in the media in any way... but I am human, and I'm able to look at the ramblings of someone like her, and ask myself whether I'd react in the same or different way if I were in her position. I guess that I don't want to see myself as a hypocrite. And that's all...
On the bright-side, if my posts are viewed as 'Drearies', then you never know, I may be offered a job by the DM. Until then, I'll just run my software business and management consultancy.
Is this thread being weird for anyone else? I posted a reply to Mr Curmudgeon (no idea why as they are clearly wanting a fight) and it hasn't shown up.
Very odd. :cool:
The thread's been pruned and some posts have gone.
Did anyone notice the vile comment on this week's Diary from 'Thisbe' who called a lady whose mother had died recently 'a loser'?
Comments
Its essentially exactly as on the previous page Molly.
Edited to add: You can "read between the lines" (borrowed from a poster there) on the Mail Diary comments
Thanks, Sarah!
I'm just sorry I missed it happening in real time. I do love a good bit of internet drama.
I'm usually late to the party myself lol. All very funny and a definite strike for Karma though
- Earning vast amounts of money (e.g. £500,000 p.a) and yet be constantly 'broke'.
- Be capable of working continuous long hours with little or no sleep (e.g. 21 hours per day)
- Have very little appetite for food and yet have a great deal of energy.
- Have a tenuous grip on reality (e.g. forgetting what they have previously written, how many years ago they last saw their current partner, believe that they have dated a world famous rock star for 3 years who nobody has seen her with).
- Completing forgetting about ones 113 pets
The cruel and false rumours circulating today have ruined my Sunday, I hope the jellus h8ters behind these rumours are thoroughly ashamed!
And............ my tea is snorted again!!
I think it's been removed.
Agreed :mad:
Hubby buys the mail on sunday (for the crossword he says) and when I pulled one of the mags out, there she was on the cover staring back at me. WITH the cast of the Archers. Grrrrrrr.
Thanks
I really, really, REALLY wished I was online early this morning and caught the link before it was deleted
Just had a look at the diary page and to my surprise LOADS of the comments mention drugs - it's a great read :cool::D
I was having my own quiet smirk at the fact she reprimanded the writer of the Archers for having an episode on sheep worrying dogs, meanwhile all this was going on.
That'll teach me to ignore the Dreary and it's comments.
ps. No visible snow just yet in Yorkshire..
The woman really is deranged.
They are currently running a story about dogs being let off leads (which scared some sheep) and a disease that can be caused by dog poo (amongst other things) which causes a disease in cows which means they have to be culled.
So The Archers are bad because they are highlighting that you shouldn't let you dog off the lead on other peoples land and that you should clean up after your dog has taken a dump.
You know, what responsible dog owners SHOULD be doing.
Whereas Liz has admitted in her column that her dogs have worried and caused injuries to another farmers sheep and possibly even killed an animal whilst off the lead.
She didn't really attack it?? She has recorded a guest appearance. I'm not an Archers fan, but those who are have told me that she clearly isn't as she got much of the detail wrong.
She had this to say, but doesn't have a go at it (from what I could tell):
Look who's joined The Archers: Liz Jones sets the tongues wagging in Ambridge
Good on the Archers. Too many arseholes where I live flaunt their dogs not being on leads, and let them crap everywhere including children's play areas and near a school. Winds me up like nothing else.
So OF COURSE the hateful fishwife from hell Liz Jones would be against any kind of anti- message. Does she still have her ten thousand animals? She hasn't mentioned them in ages, at least not since she turned the Dreary into a poor man's Mills & Boone...
As someone who seeks order in my life, I’ve taken to looking at my web-browsing activities… and much to my horror I find that the 'Daily Mail’ happens to be very close to the top of my most-visited sites. That’s very worrying to me, because that paper actually represents most of what I abhor in life. Any kind of media ‘habit’ is one that I can do without, but I’d prefer that if I did have one it would be more focused on ‘The Independent’ rather than the ‘Daily Mail’, but such is life...
What concerns me more than anything about my navel-gazing, is that my reason for dipping in to the DM appears not to be for the purposes of titillation or cocking-a-snook at the British lower-middle-class; nor is it to find examples of the paper’s hypocrisy, like supporting campaigns against pornography whilst simultaneously publishing countless photos of ‘side-boob’ shots from their supported paparazzi.
My problem - and I’m sad to admit it - is that I’m actually addicted to Liz Jones...
If anyone at DM analyses my website activity, they’ll find that I take a cursory look through the headlines and then do a search for ‘Liz Jones’ and rank it based upon ‘Most Recent’. That’s worrying to me as I’m currently unable to gain sufficient distance to visually frame myself as someone seeking out and reading, much less responding to this drivel.
I could describe my obsession as a ‘guilty-pleasure’, but a more fitting description for my activity would be a ‘rubber-necker’, because every time I read a Liz Jones article I see myself as one of those motorway drivers that cause traffic-jams for no other reason than slowing-down to gawp at a roadside accident.
My life experiences thus far have taught me that being contrarian is a positive trait, but with Liz I find myself drawn into the abyss inhabited by the masses, and temporarily I obtain a certain ‘sick-satisfaction’ from it. Then I do feel physically sick.
You’ll appreciate from this that I’m terribly conflicted…
Part of me wants to jump on the bandwagon and ‘rip the piss’ out of her, which I frequently do… then I feel guilty because the other part of me sees her as a totally lost, fearful soul reacting to life the only way she knows. She may be one who has sold her soul for rock’n’roll (albeit previously to an imaginary rock-star, and more recently to ’Two-ton Ted from Teddington who drives the baker’s van’), but the other part sympathises with her crap life decisions in that a £500k pay-cheque from the DM - as a pact with Mephistopheles - is one destined for disaster.
My thoughts about the possibility of ‘money for nothing and chicks for free’ went out the window when MTV, Dire Straits and Sting came in… but I I’m fascinated to know how and why someone from my age-related peer-group did. Lizard may be 53 - or thereabouts - but she’s got the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old, and I struggle with how to relate to that dynamic.
I sense that many of you posting on here will relate to some of these thoughts.
Naive? You can't really have been reading her 'work' and think she's naive. May I direct you to one or two cynical attention-seeking trollworty clickbait articles?
Mum devoted her life to me. So why couldn't I manage just a day caring for her?
Is lovely Jo becoming just another thumbnail on the police website?
Disabled parking bays are perfect - for my Land Rover
These are just the three I remember off the top of my head, I'm sure other FMs can think of many more examples. She's the worst of the DM, a lying, judgmental, shallow bitch (in the nastiest sense of the word).
You are so right, Fatsia. Liz Jones is not naive at all - she knows exactly what she is doing. Time and again she destroys friendships and relationships by writing in great detail about things that are private and should not be splashed around in print. She writes about details that no normal adult would reveal - Mr Curmudgeon is right in that she does have the emotional intelligence of a 12-year-old, but she is well aware of what she is doing. People ask, tell, beg her not to write about them and what does she go straight out and do? All the while telling us that she is doing it against the wishes of the subject. It is not just trivial matters she lets slip, either, but often deeply personal details that by the divulging she hurts people. Her family appear not to speak to her any longer. Why should that be? Not because she is naive but because she knowingly continues to publish private matters against their wishes. Probably for other reasons too that they, being infinitely more discreet than Liz, chose not to discuss in public.
Liz Jones's columns are car-crash journalism. Difficult to turn your eyes from them but unpleasant and destructive.
By the way, look at this example:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-2168263/Liz-Jones-In-Nicks-life-celebrated.html
More than half of this column consists of the contents of a private letter (or email, it's not made clear) regarding the details of her nephew's funeral. It's not enough that she lets someone else write most of her diary, but she uses such a communication? That is not, in my view, acceptable.
Blimey Fatsia, you should be a DM journo yourself... don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.
I guess the other point that I'd make and one that frequently occurs to me is that if there were no rubber-neckers, there would be no traffic jam. May be if people like us didn't bother reading her, she'd be in obscurity rather than in a job earning £500k a year !
Tough going though your post is,the selected text to me strongly suggests you think her naive rather than malicious.
If that is the case, I disagree and I think so does Fatsia. I don't think the fact that clarity of expression lost the battle to elaborate presentation actually makes us any more wrong than you are Mr C:D:D:D
As someone living in the north of England myself, I did a double-take when I heard that she was moving her zoo to a village in Yorkshire, as I would have thought her likely period of residence in God's own county would have been even less than in Dulverton. I can't imagine locals taking to her at all.
I doubt most of us know any more than you Mr C, but it might be a 'White Christmas' for Liz in Reeth this year.
How caring for a zoo of 113 animals equate with her 21 hour days I've no idea, but the saying that things go better with 'it' might be the answer.
Fatsia and vampyre - agree with you both. Liz is far from naive - she knows exactly what she's doing.
Very odd.
I think if you read my original posting, you'll see that I came into this to gain an answer to questions that were bothering me.
May be you see them as a precursor to starting a fight, but that was never the case. 'Stirring the pot' is a bit more difficult to deflect, because I'm asking contributors here to comment upon my own feelings.
I'm not in any way 'invested' in how Liz Jones's ramblings are received. I'm not involved in the media in any way... but I am human, and I'm able to look at the ramblings of someone like her, and ask myself whether I'd react in the same or different way if I were in her position. I guess that I don't want to see myself as a hypocrite. And that's all...
On the bright-side, if my posts are viewed as 'Drearies', then you never know, I may be offered a job by the DM. Until then, I'll just run my software business and management consultancy.
Best wishes Molly.
The thread's been pruned and some posts have gone.
Did anyone notice the vile comment on this week's Diary from 'Thisbe' who called a lady whose mother had died recently 'a loser'?
Liz's fans are so lovely. :mad: :rolleyes: