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The most negative childrens nursery rhyme...

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    LaineyTLaineyT Posts: 6,392
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    I think most nursery rhymes have some historical context/meaning/symbolism.

    As a child I had a beautifully illustrated book that I'd look at for hours.

    I never quite 'got' this one - I wonder what significance this one had? The pictures were lovely.

    Hark, hark the dogs do bark
    The beggars are coming to town
    Some in rags, some in tags
    And one in a velvet (scarlett?) gown.

    Rock a bye baby on the tree top is a bit sinister too isn't it?

    This sort of explains it Penny.

    http://www.mamalisa.com/?t=hes&p=1470
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    Fairyprincess0Fairyprincess0 Posts: 30,075
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    It's hard to decided which nursery rhyme is more negative. Ooh, i know

    Eeny, meeny, miny, moe......;)
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    Steve_CardanasSteve_Cardanas Posts: 4,188
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    It's hard to decided which nursery rhyme is more negative. Pooh, I know....

    Eeny, meeny, miny, moe......;)

    kids still ended it the same nowadays with the n word
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    well.........the king's men were Ok......they tried their best

    They should have got some Polish brickies in.
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    Jack Sprat and his wife were a pair of fussy eaters.
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    KikiDafuqKikiDafuq Posts: 203
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    As an animal lover I never liked the idea of four and twenty LIVE blackbirds being baked in a pie (Sing a Song of Sixpence)
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    lemoncurdlemoncurd Posts: 57,778
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    Eraserhead wrote: »
    Sorry for being picky but cannon is spelt with two n's.

    Sorry to be even pickier, but it's actually spelled with three "n"s.
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    riverside 57riverside 57 Posts: 14,380
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    I always felt quite sorry for poor little Polly Flinders. All she was doing was warming her pretty little toes among the cinders, and then got her nice new clothes dirty so her mother whipped her. Cruel bitch! >:(
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    lemoncurd wrote: »
    Sorry to be even pickier, but it's actually spelled with three "n"s.

    And unless you're American then it's 'spelt'.



    (Sorry to join in there)
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    TakaeTakae Posts: 13,555
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    Eeper Weeper, chimney sweeper,
    had a wife but couldn't keep her.
    Had another, didn't love her,
    up the chimney he shoved her.
    S-w-e-e-p-e-r spells sweeper.

    Part of a skipping game, if I remember correctly.
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    maggie thecatmaggie thecat Posts: 2,241
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    And unless you're American then it's 'spelt'.



    (Sorry to join in there)

    ? Spelt is something you lot use. When we use it we're refering to a type of grain.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    Simple Simon met a pieman,
    Going to the fair;
    Says Simple Simon to the pieman,
    What have you got there
    Says the pieman to Simple Simon,
    Pies, you idiot
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,271
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    Shappy wrote: »
    He's an egg.

    It NEVER states that.
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    ValentineValentine Posts: 3,852
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    What about the one with the ladybird - 'your house is on fire and your children are all gone'?!

    My head did a real swivel when I heard that on a CD I was playing in the car for my son years ago!!
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    Seth1Seth1 Posts: 676
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    Fly away ladybird, fly away home...

    I always thought it was to instil a sense of urgency into a somewhat docile creature
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    JT2060JT2060 Posts: 5,370
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    The original little mermaid killed herself.

    The original Cinderella was called 'cinder-****.'

    Cinder-sluts sisters had their eyes plucked out by doves on her wedding day

    The frog prince wasn't kissed back to human form, he was thrown against a wall.


    Sounds like Tim Burton's take on a Disney classic.
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    JT2060JT2060 Posts: 5,370
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    I remember seeing Bernard Manning live once and he started with:-

    'Mary, Mary, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?'

    'Piss off'.


    I thought it was hysterical at the time.
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    ShappyShappy Posts: 14,531
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    JT2060 wrote: »
    I remember seeing Bernard Manning live once and he started with:-

    'Mary, Mary, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?'

    'Piss off'.


    I thought it was hysterical at the time.

    Yeah you're right, not as funny now.
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    angelafisherangelafisher Posts: 4,150
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    SULLA wrote: »
    Simple Simon met a pieman,
    Going to the fair;
    Says Simple Simon to the pieman,
    What have you got there
    Says the pieman to Simple Simon,
    Pies, you idiot

    :D:D:D
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    Seamus SweeneySeamus Sweeney Posts: 3,997
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    Now us Galway folk realised the need to be sensitive to the urchins - and prepare them for real life with the rhymes - like

    Hickory Dickory Dock
    Humpty Dumpty Is a Crock
    Went to Gaol, As a Male
    Now He's Wearing a Frock

    or

    Mary Had A Little Lamb
    She Brought it to A Weddin'
    Propped It Up Against a Wall
    Then Kicked it's Wee Head In (adapted for forums rules..)

    ..also livestock friendly ones such as

    Baa Baa Black Sheep
    *BANG*
    You taste Nice

    The English are all as mad as as sin I tell you.
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    ShrikeShrike Posts: 16,607
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    KikiDafuq wrote: »
    As an animal lover I never liked the idea of four and twenty LIVE blackbirds being baked in a pie (Sing a Song of Sixpence)

    The birds weren't killed though - "When the pie was opened, the birds began to sing"

    In medieval and early modern times banquets were more about spectacle than actual food and it was quite common for a pie to contain live animals who would spring out when the crust was cut - obviously the pie crust was pre-cooked and placed over the birds in the dish once cool.
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    linmiclinmic Posts: 13,425
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    Shappy wrote: »
    Three blind mice having their tails chopped off by a knife wielding mad woman is no picnic in the park either.

    You beat me to it, poor little things :cry:
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    Patti-AnnPatti-Ann Posts: 22,747
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    I used to enjoy this one as a child :D

    http://www.rhymes.org.uk/this_is_the_house_that_jack_built.htm

    It's on the same lines as 'A Partridge In A Pear Tree' (which of course is a song)

    This one is about counting sheep :o:confused:

    http://www.bubblews.com/news/1410584-the-meaning-behind-the-nursery-rhyme-hickory-dickory-dock
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    Penny CrayonPenny Crayon Posts: 36,158
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    I rather liked this one because it had a 'happy' ending but ....................I was always furious with little Johnny Flynn.




    Ding dong bell
    Pussy's in the well
    Who put her in?
    Little Johnny Flynn
    Who pulled her out?
    Little Tommy Stout
    What a naughty boy was that
    Try to drown poor Pussycat,
    Who ne'er did any harm
    But killed all the mice
    In the Farmer's barn!
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    linmiclinmic Posts: 13,425
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    Hey Diddle Diddle
    The cat had a piddle
    Right in the middle of the floor
    The little dog laughed to see such fun
    So the cat did a little bit more
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