Sorry our JJJ friends didn't like hearing yesterday that John is happy now. Hope you return soon to keep us updated.
I am going to add my surprise at this as well....and also hope that andy returns to us soon.....
what a shame...this has happened......I dont think John created it at all himself....it seem to be so called supporters thinking they know best.....:(
Surely we need to take responsibliity for our own actions..
Maybe people are cross that the whole JJJ dream is now over and buried........, JOhn has finally comie over to the UK and made no discernable effort to contact Josie, and with JOsie making no discernable effort to contact. John.... the romance between them both is obviously over...
yet JOhn has had time to contact quite a few of his other BB11 housemates and even if he didnt see them, he seems to have at least befriended them on twitter!!!,
and he has even had time to catch up on a few select supporters, and do a meet and greet in southend arranged by Mario...
But he doesnt seem to have made any effort to contact Josie, and nor has she tried to contact him.....
I am going to add my surprise at this as well....and also hope that andy returns to us soon.....
what a shame...this has happened......I dont think John created it at all himself....it seem to be so called supporters thinking they know best.....:(
Surely we need to take responsibliity for our own actions..
Maybe people are cross that the whole JJJ dream is now over and buried........, JOhn has finally comie over to the UK and made no discernable effort to contact Josie, and with JOsie making no discernable effort to contact. John.... the romance between them both is obviously over...
yet JOhn has had time to contact quite a few of his other BB11 housemates and even if he didnt see them, he seems to have at least befriended them on twitter!!!,
and he has even had time to catch up on a few select supporters, and do a meet and greet in southend arranged by Mario...
But he doesnt seem to have made any effort to contact Josie, and nor has she tried to contact him.....
But he doesnt seem to have made any effort to contact Josie, and nor has she tried to contact him.....
surely that fact speaks volumes....
Absolutely, it's even plainer now to see that both John and Josie are getting on with their own lives ..... and Mario's tweets pretty much sum up how I've felt about things JJJ for a long time.
Unfortunately, some supporters seem unable to let go and still feel that John (and Josie for that matter) have some sort of obligation to them. It just seems such an alien notion of fandom. For me, it's simple....you either support a z-lister, with perhaps reservations about certain aspects, or you walk away from them. You can't expect to change or influence them directly, so I don't really understand anything in between! :eek:
Holding out hopes for reunification inevitably turns to criticism of John and Josie for not acting in the way a particular supporter wants them to. That's the problem I've always had with reuniters ..... not that they mean any harm, but that their dream-world delusion leads them to criticise and show disappointment towards John (and Josie).
John and Josie's split was acrimonious and I don't believe either of them would benefit from "resolution". It's just some crazy fans who need the resolution. Well too bad, noone owns John and Josie....however much money you may have spent on or time invested supporting them. They have their own wellbeing to consider and, based on my reading of both of their characters, why would they do anything other than what they've been doing for the last year??
Absolutely, it's even plainer now to see that both John and Josie are getting on with their own lives ..... and Mario's tweets pretty much sum up how I've felt about things JJJ for a long time.
Unfortunately, some supporters seem unable to let go and still feel that John (and Josie for that matter) have some sort of obligation to them. It just seems such an alien notion of fandom to me. Either you support a z-lister or you walk away from them. You can't expect to change or influence them directly, so I don't really understand anything in between! :eek:
Holding out hopes for reunification inevitably turns to criticism of John and Josie for not acting in the way a particular supporter wants them to. That's the problem I've always had with reuniters ..... not that they mean any harm, but that their dream-world delusion leads them to criticise and show disappointment towards John (and Josie).
Those who hold outhopes for reunification
yes exactly.......
We should be able to accept john and josie for who they are ....and not exactly expect them to change for us....
yes we can comment on aspects of their actions that they chose to show us......if they are in the public arena, like a magazine or on twitter....., we do have a right to say what we think ...
but we dont have any right to expect them to conform to our wishes or to act upon them......they are their own people who can do as they wish.. If john and josie have no intention of even speaking to each other ever again....we have to respect their wishes......and not to try and push them into doing something they dont want to do.........( within of course the legal and moral boundaries of society)
Can someone tell me exactly what has been going on in the past few days....as ! im aware something has happened but not exactly what it was all about ?
If its true its extremely scary cos it looks as if a DS poster has been banned from DS by a group of people ganging up on twitter and facebook ??
how on earth can this have happened?
This group who have taken an instant dislike to this poster, havent wanted to tackle anything in public, or to address any problems and issues on DS itself, but have prefered to go behind closed doors and to talk about it...make a decision in private and then to act upon it....
ok so this isnt exactly a critical issue.....but.....it is pretty unjust and unfair......if a group did this in a work context....discussed someone and made a decision and acted upon it.....without even speaking properly to the people they think might be involved.....the unions quite rightly would be outraged....whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty, or having the right to reply or to defend yourself?
I am amazed that anyone thinks that this is right...
Absolutely, it's even plainer now to see that both John and Josie are getting on with their own lives ..... and Mario's tweets pretty much sum up how I've felt about things JJJ for a long time.
Unfortunately, some supporters seem unable to let go and still feel that John (and Josie for that matter) have some sort of obligation to them. It just seems such an alien notion of fandom. For me, it's simple....you either support a z-lister, with perhaps reservations about certain aspects, or you walk away from them. You can't expect to change or influence them directly, so I don't really understand anything in between! :eek:
Holding out hopes for reunification inevitably turns to criticism of John and Josie for not acting in the way a particular supporter wants them to. That's the problem I've always had with reuniters ..... not that they mean any harm, but that their dream-world delusion leads them to criticise and show disappointment towards John (and Josie).
John and Josie's split was acrimonious and I don't believe either of them would benefit from "resolution". It's just some crazy fans who need the resolution. Well too bad, noone owns John and Josie....however much money you may have spent on or time invested supporting them. They have their own wellbeing to consider and, based on my reading of both of their characters, why would they do anything other than what they've been doing for the last year??
We should be able to accept john and josie for who they are ....and not exactly expect them to change for us....
yes we can comment on aspects of their actions that they chose to show us......if they are in the public arena, like a magazine or on twitter....., we do have a right to say what we think ...
but we dont have any right to expect them to conform to our wishes or to act upon them......they are their own people who can do as they wish...( within of course the legal and moral boundaries of society)
As you know, I concur absolutely with you both
I would like to add, those that think I am Bitter and Twisted shouldn't be throwing stones in them there glasshouses!
wow im almost feeling exremely proud to be British......
the olympic team have done us proud......im so impressed.....
totally agree. As someone who isn't normally that keen on patriotism or big global events, I've gotta admit to being totally won over by Olympics2012 ..... right from the unexpectedly impressive opening ceremony.
And here's a big positive of twitter - being able to share that feeling of excitement and pride REAL-TIME (as it happens) with a bunch of tweet buddies....not just my 'real world' friends and colleagues!
Oh,who's been naughty and sen to sit on the chair?Anyone knows for how long?:p
Have to say the Brits having a successful Olympic campaign thus far:cool:The home support does wonders!:D
Don't think anyone is pushing John to get back together with Jose,but more to do with what they would want to see happen,think the bad thing is those who encourages them to feel like that,that there is somehow still a possibility of that happening,even though they know that it's not gonna happen!
The only thing that i don't agree with is some of the tweets i sometimes read on John's TL,some of it are patronising to say the least,but they're in the minority now:)
At the end of the day,anyone is entitled to their opinions,and how they feel,see the situation really!
Love the clips i've been watching of BB this past 2 days,they seem like a relaxed group,no more divide,but i'm sure BB will throw something to rile them up:rolleyes:
Oh,who's been naughty and sen to sit on the chair?Anyone knows for how long?
Have to say the Brits having a successful Olympic campaign thus far:cool:The home support does wonders!:D
Don't think anyone is pushing John to get back together with Jose,but more to do with what they would want to see happen,think the bad thing is those who encourages them to feel like that,that there is somehow still a possibility of that happening,even though they know that it's not gonna happen!
The only thing that i don't agree with is some of the tweets i sometimes read on John's TL,some of it are patronising to say the least,but they're in the minority now:)
At the end of the day,anyone is entitled to their opinions,and how they feel,see the situation really!
Love the clips i've been watching of BB this past 2 days,they seem like a relaxed group,no more divide,but i'm sure BB will throw something to rile them up:rolleyes:
Poor AP
it seems you're not allowed
to say john is happy, healthy and well
in a appreciation thread
with johns name on it
Have to say Alex you put into words everything I am thinking.
Well done to Team GB. My friend saw the canoeing team get gold - and she is going to Tae Kwando, Synchronized Swimming and another event I can't remember. I told her she just should have camped rather than come back home.
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I am going to add my surprise at this as well....and also hope that andy returns to us soon.....
what a shame...this has happened......I dont think John created it at all himself....it seem to be so called supporters thinking they know best.....:(
Surely we need to take responsibliity for our own actions..
Maybe people are cross that the whole JJJ dream is now over and buried...
yet JOhn has had time to contact quite a few of his other BB11 housemates and even if he didnt see them, he seems to have at least befriended them on twitter!!!,
and he has even had time to catch up on a few select supporters, and do a meet and greet in southend arranged by Mario...
But he doesnt seem to have made any effort to contact Josie, and nor has she tried to contact him.....
surely that fact speaks volumes....
Loud and clear to me.:)
Absolutely, it's even plainer now to see that both John and Josie are getting on with their own lives ..... and Mario's tweets pretty much sum up how I've felt about things JJJ for a long time.
Unfortunately, some supporters seem unable to let go and still feel that John (and Josie for that matter) have some sort of obligation to them. It just seems such an alien notion of fandom. For me, it's simple....you either support a z-lister, with perhaps reservations about certain aspects, or you walk away from them. You can't expect to change or influence them directly, so I don't really understand anything in between! :eek:
Holding out hopes for reunification inevitably turns to criticism of John and Josie for not acting in the way a particular supporter wants them to. That's the problem I've always had with reuniters ..... not that they mean any harm, but that their dream-world delusion leads them to criticise and show disappointment towards John (and Josie).
John and Josie's split was acrimonious and I don't believe either of them would benefit from "resolution". It's just some crazy fans who need the resolution. Well too bad, noone owns John and Josie....however much money you may have spent on or time invested supporting them. They have their own wellbeing to consider and, based on my reading of both of their characters, why would they do anything other than what they've been doing for the last year??
yes exactly.......
We should be able to accept john and josie for who they are ....and not exactly expect them to change for us....
yes we can comment on aspects of their actions that they chose to show us......if they are in the public arena, like a magazine or on twitter....., we do have a right to say what we think ...
but we dont have any right to expect them to conform to our wishes or to act upon them......they are their own people who can do as they wish.. If john and josie have no intention of even speaking to each other ever again....we have to respect their wishes......and not to try and push them into doing something they dont want to do.........( within of course the legal and moral boundaries of society)
If its true its extremely scary cos it looks as if a DS poster has been banned from DS by a group of people ganging up on twitter and facebook ??
how on earth can this have happened?
This group who have taken an instant dislike to this poster, havent wanted to tackle anything in public, or to address any problems and issues on DS itself, but have prefered to go behind closed doors and to talk about it...make a decision in private and then to act upon it....
ok so this isnt exactly a critical issue.....but.....it is pretty unjust and unfair......if a group did this in a work context....discussed someone and made a decision and acted upon it.....without even speaking properly to the people they think might be involved.....the unions quite rightly would be outraged....whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty, or having the right to reply or to defend yourself?
I am amazed that anyone thinks that this is right...
As you know, I concur absolutely with you both
I would like to add, those that think I am Bitter and Twisted shouldn't be throwing stones in them there glasshouses!
So pleased for him x
TeamGB's no 16 gold........yay!!!!!!!!!!!
Sad for the Fedmeister, but he won the one that mattered!
well done murray.....:D
wow im almost feeling exremely proud to be British......
the olympic team have done us proud......im so impressed.....
totally agree. As someone who isn't normally that keen on patriotism or big global events, I've gotta admit to being totally won over by Olympics2012 ..... right from the unexpectedly impressive opening ceremony.
And here's a big positive of twitter - being able to share that feeling of excitement and pride REAL-TIME (as it happens) with a bunch of tweet buddies....not just my 'real world' friends and colleagues!
Have to say the Brits having a successful Olympic campaign thus far:cool:The home support does wonders!:D
Don't think anyone is pushing John to get back together with Jose,but more to do with what they would want to see happen,think the bad thing is those who encourages them to feel like that,that there is somehow still a possibility of that happening,even though they know that it's not gonna happen!
The only thing that i don't agree with is some of the tweets i sometimes read on John's TL,some of it are patronising to say the least,but they're in the minority now:)
At the end of the day,anyone is entitled to their opinions,and how they feel,see the situation really!
Love the clips i've been watching of BB this past 2 days,they seem like a relaxed group,no more divide,but i'm sure BB will throw something to rile them up:rolleyes:
Poor AP
it seems you're not allowed
to say john is happy, healthy and well
in a appreciation thread
with johns name on it
Go figure
Well he looks fit.
He looks healthy.
Fit and healthy equals happy:D
Simples:p
lmao
well i don,t understand it
i called john a little sh*t
and i,m still here
We like you more than the red buttons:p
But not as much as the red smarties
:eek:
one red smartie
or are we talking a
whole tube
True,love me smarties me,nothing compares but M&M's:D:o
Peanut M&M's... yum
Me and you both then:D:o
Have to say Alex you put into words everything I am thinking.
Well done to Team GB. My friend saw the canoeing team get gold - and she is going to Tae Kwando, Synchronized Swimming and another event I can't remember. I told her she just should have camped rather than come back home.
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