Given the way UK channels are dumping US shows by the second I would imagine any UK broadcaster will wait to see how this does first before deciding to buy the rights logically you'd think Sky would want it to pair with Arrow but who knows
I don't think they HAVE to be tricky. I've thought for a long time that all you'd need was a little time and patience and thought and you could craft a plot that made sense and was easily followable - too often they make things needlessly complex and full of unnecessary and obviously wrong/illogical flaws.
I'm not saying it couldn't work, it could, but they'd have to be real careful not to destroy (or over right) the existing Flash (and Arrow) universes.
Few shows manage to pull the time travel arc off, excluding Doctor Who, the only show I can think of which has done it well was Stargate.
Connecting movies/shows means that no bat verse/superverse/wonderverse or any of the other characters verses reserved for movies can ever appear on the TV series. Since they can't afford movie actor fees, increased special effects for movie supers.
I'm sure something could be included in an actor/actresses contract that they'd need to do a couple of cameos once every year or two. No? I'm not talking about Batman coming to assist Arrow, I'm just talking about maybe Oliver Queen getting a visit from Bruce Wayne or something. You'd not need the extra special effects. You wouldn't need any.
With regards to the Flash though, isn't Flash one of the founding members of Justice League? When they get around to the film (2016 if I'm right?) they'll either have to exclude him, or they'll have to cast another, which would surely put a dampener on the tv series? With the exception of Flash and Arrow, the only feature character that hasn't been mentioned as a Superman vs Batman cameo is Green Lantern.
We know we've got Wonder Woman, and we know about a Cyborg and (possible) Aquaman. No Lantern though - however I'm sure there's time for one to be cast. There haven't been any mention of a Flash or Arrow though. Is that concerning at all?
Likewise, a question to people who might know more than me; what other spinoff shows could come in this format? What other DC characters are big enough names to warrant their own tv series, but not their own feature film (in this day and age?)
I'm not saying it couldn't work, it could, but they'd have to be real careful not to destroy (or over right) the existing Flash (and Arrow) universes.
Few shows manage to pull the time travel arc off, excluding Doctor Who, the only show I can think of which has done it well was Stargate.
I actually have high hopes for this. Maybe a little too optimistic?
It sure does. They've done a fantastic job with it.
I'm sure something could be included in an actor/actresses contract that they'd need to do a couple of cameos once every year or two. No? I'm not talking about Batman coming to assist Arrow, I'm just talking about maybe Oliver Queen getting a visit from Bruce Wayne or something. You'd not need the extra special effects. You wouldn't need any.
With regards to the Flash though, isn't Flash one of the founding members of Justice League? When they get around to the film (2016 if I'm right?) they'll either have to exclude him, or they'll have to cast another, which would surely put a dampener on the tv series? With the exception of Flash and Arrow, the only feature character that hasn't been mentioned as a Superman vs Batman cameo is Green Lantern.
We know we've got Wonder Woman, and we know about a Cyborg and (possible) Aquaman. No Lantern though - however I'm sure there's time for one to be cast. There haven't been any mention of a Flash or Arrow though. Is that concerning at all?
Likewise, a question to people who might know more than me; what other spinoff shows could come in this format? What other DC characters are big enough names to warrant their own tv series, but not their own feature film (in this day and age?)
Could skip Barry Allen and use Wally West instead.
As for the last question, Nightwing, any inclusion in a movie would result in them making him terrible so Batman is shown as AMAZING, so a TV show would be the best option.
Not including Batman would be easy, but they could easily have Tim Drake, Red Hood, even use Deathstroke etc.... Could integrate him to The Flash easily due to Wally West for a cameo or two.
As for the last question, Nightwing, any inclusion in a movie would result in them making him terrible so Batman is shown as AMAZING, so a TV show would be the best option.
That might work. Another Oliver Queen (just with sticks instead of arrows).
.. they'd have to be real careful not to destroy (or over right) the existing Flash (and Arrow) universes.
Arrow seems to be doing a pretty good job of destroying itself, these days. Quite bored with it now.
Flash, is off to a good start. Nice to see John Wesley Shipp again. All it really needs, as is the case with every series, is the caliber of writing we see in Person of Interest.
Arrow seems to be doing a pretty good job of destroying itself, these days. Quite bored with it now.
Flash, is off to a good start. Nice to see John Wesley Shipp again. All it really needs, as is the case with every series, is the caliber of writing we see in Person of Interest.
Arrow seems to be doing a pretty good job of destroying itself, these days. Quite bored with it now.
Flash, is off to a good start. Nice to see John Wesley Shipp again. All it really needs, as is the case with every series, is the caliber of writing we see in Person of Interest.
You have got to be kidding, season 2 of Arrow was much better than the first, they are doing an amazing job with it.
I loved the pilot episode of The Flash and can't wait to watch the rest of the season now!
I know its unlikely but I'm still hoping that there will be an announcement at Comic Con of a DC TV and Film link up that leads into the already announced Justice League film!
The pilot wasn't bad but it felt like something was missing. I agree with some that the casting isn't the greatest and to be honest Grant is not a very good actor so that's gonna take some getting used to
Pilot was okay. I didn't really enjoy Arrow untill the second half of the first season, so I'll give the Flash at least half a season to find it's groove. I hope they'll do some crossovers with Arrow during the season, their brief scene together was one of the best scenes of this pilot.
That might work. Another Oliver Queen (just with sticks instead of arrows).
Yeah, but at least it could be argued that it's several years ahead of this TV's version of Arrow and Flash, to explain potential different actor for Oliver. Then again I don't know if they ever mentioned when Man of Steel was meant to have happened.
Loved it. A lot better written than Arrow's pilot, with a much stronger lead. Had a bit of a Spider-Man 1 feel, some of the soundtrack was almost identical.
Marvel have done the job of connecting Agents of Shield with the Marvel Universe, and it's working great. I don't see what DC have to lose. All they'd need is a cameo (or even a mention) or the characters from the show, just to keep it all consistent.
Tbh Shield has been really hampered by being tied to the films. It couldn't air its latter episodes until Cap2 had been released so it didn't spoil that film. Hence there were months when there were hardly any new episodes and the pace slowed right down whilst it was treading water.
I think the DC films and tv shows should be set in the same universe (having two different actors playing The Flash would be daft) but I hope they aren't too reliant on each other.
I also thought it's going to turn out to be him as well but why remains a mystery I don't think his father is guilty of the murder no
The Reverse-Flash most likely.
Or they could steal from to cartoon-movie and make it that he tried to save her, but then realised she needed to die or time would fall apart so did what was needed.
Or they could steal from to cartoon-movie and make it that he tried to save her, but then realised she needed to die or time would fall apart so did what was needed.
I was thinking along the lines of he had to ensure she died otherwise he wouldn't have become who he was and saved loads of people and of course he wouldn't have met and saved arrow etc so similar
Enjoyable, or should that be familiar. Smallville sprang to mind, these shows are only as good as the plots. Three months until the series starts, oh well.
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Given the way UK channels are dumping US shows by the second I would imagine any UK broadcaster will wait to see how this does first before deciding to buy the rights logically you'd think Sky would want it to pair with Arrow but who knows
Isn't Thawne a certain Yellow and Red speedster in the comics?
Few shows manage to pull the time travel arc off, excluding Doctor Who, the only show I can think of which has done it well was Stargate.
I actually have high hopes for this. Maybe a little too optimistic?
It sure does. They've done a fantastic job with it.
I'm sure something could be included in an actor/actresses contract that they'd need to do a couple of cameos once every year or two. No? I'm not talking about Batman coming to assist Arrow, I'm just talking about maybe Oliver Queen getting a visit from Bruce Wayne or something. You'd not need the extra special effects. You wouldn't need any.
With regards to the Flash though, isn't Flash one of the founding members of Justice League? When they get around to the film (2016 if I'm right?) they'll either have to exclude him, or they'll have to cast another, which would surely put a dampener on the tv series? With the exception of Flash and Arrow, the only feature character that hasn't been mentioned as a Superman vs Batman cameo is Green Lantern.
We know we've got Wonder Woman, and we know about a Cyborg and (possible) Aquaman. No Lantern though - however I'm sure there's time for one to be cast. There haven't been any mention of a Flash or Arrow though. Is that concerning at all?
Likewise, a question to people who might know more than me; what other spinoff shows could come in this format? What other DC characters are big enough names to warrant their own tv series, but not their own feature film (in this day and age?)
Could skip Barry Allen and use Wally West instead.
As for the last question, Nightwing, any inclusion in a movie would result in them making him terrible so Batman is shown as AMAZING, so a TV show would be the best option.
Not including Batman would be easy, but they could easily have Tim Drake, Red Hood, even use Deathstroke etc.... Could integrate him to The Flash easily due to Wally West for a cameo or two.
True, although it would still be two Flashes.
That might work. Another Oliver Queen (just with sticks instead of arrows).
His voice didn't sound the same to me as it does in Arrow?
Arrow seems to be doing a pretty good job of destroying itself, these days. Quite bored with it now.
Flash, is off to a good start. Nice to see John Wesley Shipp again. All it really needs, as is the case with every series, is the caliber of writing we see in Person of Interest.
If only:)
You have got to be kidding, season 2 of Arrow was much better than the first, they are doing an amazing job with it.
Seconded.
Third end season two was awesome
I know its unlikely but I'm still hoping that there will be an announcement at Comic Con of a DC TV and Film link up that leads into the already announced Justice League film!
Yeah, but at least it could be argued that it's several years ahead of this TV's version of Arrow and Flash, to explain potential different actor for Oliver. Then again I don't know if they ever mentioned when Man of Steel was meant to have happened.
Could make it a more detective style show.
You could certainly see something like the flash suit.
Maybe the big twist is that his father really is guilty of the murder and Barry travels back in time to stop it?
Tbh Shield has been really hampered by being tied to the films. It couldn't air its latter episodes until Cap2 had been released so it didn't spoil that film. Hence there were months when there were hardly any new episodes and the pace slowed right down whilst it was treading water.
I think the DC films and tv shows should be set in the same universe (having two different actors playing The Flash would be daft) but I hope they aren't too reliant on each other.
Or they could steal from to cartoon-movie and make it that he tried to save her, but then realised she needed to die or time would fall apart so did what was needed.