Why? She had no royal status and was just another celebrity.
If she had no royal status, it begs the question why did Prince Charles go to Paris to identify and repatriate her body - and was permitted by the authorities despite him being merely the ex-husband
If she had no royal status, it begs the question why did Prince Charles go to Paris to identify and repatriate her body - and was permitted by the authorities despite him being merely the ex-husband
Perhaps he felt as the mother of his son's, it was the right thing to do .
I really had to laugh at the brothers speech, like he was some beacon of light himself.
It was a nasty thing to do at a funeral, and as far as I can tell he showed no particular interest in the boys from then on, perhaps because of his own eventful family life. It was poignant to see the very young princes appearing to agree with him, clearly not seeing the insult behind the carefully chosen words.
If she had no royal status, it begs the question why did Prince Charles go to Paris to identify and repatriate her body - and was permitted by the authorities despite him being merely the ex-husband
What has that to do with being royal? Her father was dead, her mother was in a remote part of Scotland, her brother was abroad and Charles was clearly the easiest person to call on. .
It was a nasty thing to do at a funeral, and as far as I can tell he showed no particular interest in the boys from then on, perhaps because of his own eventful family life. It was poignant to see the very young princes appearing to agree with him, clearly not seeing the insult behind the carefully chosen words.
He was likely grieving, and angry. Emotions run high during bereavement and funerals.
It was a nasty thing to do at a funeral, and as far as I can tell he showed no particular interest in the boys from then on, perhaps because of his own eventful family life. It was poignant to see the very young princes appearing to agree with him, clearly not seeing the insult behind the carefully chosen words.
And the fact everyone in Hyde Park stood up and applauded merely because his speech sounded emotional (and therefore profound) is another indication of the aggressive, unthinking sentimentality that was abroad.
I never found that song to be ghastly at all! :eek:
Oh god I did! Naffness in the extreme! I'm just glad the X Factor wasn't around at the time or we'd have had One Direction or some such thing instead!!! Elton was bad enough.
He was likely grieving, and angry. Emotions run high during bereavement and funerals.
Yes, she was his sister: his grief was real. But she wasn't the public's sister. The hysterical element in the public reaction to her death was largely generated by the media, which of course is how most people had their relationship with her. It was a little glimpse of what the country would be like if it were ruled by The Sun.
What has that to do with being royal? Her father was dead, her mother was in a remote part of Scotland, her brother was abroad and Charles was clearly the easiest person to call on. .
Did he get to go in a helicopter... dem royals love dem helicopters!!!!
Yes, she was his sister: his grief was real. But she wasn't the public's sister. The hysterical element in the public reaction to her death was largely generated by the media, which of course is how most people had their relationship with her. It was a little glimpse of what the country would be like if it were ruled by The Sun.
I know, I was only referring to his speech, which was referred to as nasty. It probably was nasty and spiteful to blurt that out at the funeral, but as I said, people can get a bit crazy during family deaths and funerals. (There was an actual fight at one of my family funeral wakes)
As for the part of your post referring to the public. Yeah, that was a real watershed moment in British history. Real hysteria and madness on a grand scale, and I think we have changed as a nation since that moment. I watched all the wailing and pilgrimages to Buckingham Palace and I remember thinking that people have completely lost their minds here. This is nuts!
Or that you saw that you were wrong about Elton blanking Diana at the Versace funeral service and didn't bother to comment.
I saw nothing, as I didn't bother to look at your link. We are suffering from very slow download speeds atm and besides, as I said, I'm not that interested.
I thought Earl Spencer's speech was great. My family was pleased that he came out with what he did. He said what needed to be said at the time.
It's ironic that he never applied some of it to himself. Utter hypocrite. People in glass houses ectc.
I note neither of the princes attended his 3rd wedding.
I saw nothing, as I didn't bother to look at your link. We are suffering from very slow download speeds atm and besides, as I said, I'm not that interested.
I can see from this that we are unlikely to agree about anything regarding Diana Spencer, so I shall move on.
Well, he didn't blank her at all like you said. As for the second bit, that wasn't in reply to you, but another poster.
I think Camilla has become quite popular over the years. She has just played what looked like an almost impossible hand very well: head down, always nicely dressed and groomed, finding her own charity work to do, never saying a single controversial syllable. And I find your view of Catherine rather odd. She seems a nice girl to me, and again, has had to face up to a pretty impossible situation. The Mail's recent attempts to vilify her and pretend that 'Kate-three-kitchens' was a popular term just looked fatuous.
I like my royal family to be sensible and dull and to stay out of trouble. They have a professional job to do, and both those two (and the queen of course) do it well.
The Mail has turned on Kate (and the Middleton's in general) over the past year or so. Not sure what their agenda is other than getting the anti and pro's at each other's throats. But they can't seem to make up their minds one minute it's all "isn't she wonderful", next day "3 kitchens Kate spends £4.2 million and rips out a perfectly good bespoke kitchen".
In honesty, it was a good thing that she died, because the public was becoming impatient with her highly-publicised antics and flirting with the media as part of a tit-for-tat game with Prince Charles. Her popularity was dropping steadily and there was a rise in criticisms targeting at her. I remember one columnist ripping her apart for having too many holidays at taxpayers' expense. I think the columnist said something like "What are you going to do, Di? Shop 'til you drop?"
I think she'd be increasingly unpopular until she could win back the public's affection with an unexpected remarriage and settlement as an ambassador for an international charity or organisation. That depends on whether she'd keep a bad vibe between herself and Prince Charles alive, though.
The press were all turning on Diana before she died, the uturn they did was quite something and very hypocritical.
You what?! Diana refused to be the stuffy royal that all the others were. She was far more warm towards people and tried to give William and Harry as normal a life as she could.
I wonder did she introduce them to all her boyfriends? I suppose that's considered pretty normal.
She introduced them to Will Carling, I suppose being introduced to your mother's fancy man might be quite normal in some circles. Along with being the person your mother turns to, to unburden herself.
As for the part of your post referring to the public. Yeah, that was a real watershed moment in British history. Real hysteria and madness on a grand scale, and I think we have changed as a nation since that moment. I watched all the wailing and pilgrimages to Buckingham Palace and I remember thinking that people have completely lost their minds here. This is nuts!
Strange times indeed.
You have to remember that in those days people didn't really share their feelings or talk about problems. If you did, people would become anxious and not know how to respond, because it was so unusual, and they weren't used to it.
This conspiracy of silence was damaging to society. We were ignorant of so much suffering because we didn't speak to or listen to each other.
Diana's ability to engage with people on a meaningful level reminded us what it was to be human.
There was hope that one day, we might engage with one other on that level, and society would be a better place as a result.
When she died, that hope risked fading away. People mourned Diana and the concept of a better world.
Thankfully, we are more open today, and society is improving as we move further away from the time when the stiff upper lip caused so much damage.
I am not saying we owe it all to Diana, or that she is some kind of saint, but she certainly helped to show us the way.
You have to remember that in those days people didn't really share their feelings or talk about problems. If you did, people would become anxious and not know how to respond, because it was so unusual, and they weren't used to it.
This conspiracy of silence was damaging to society. We were ignorant of so much suffering because we didn't speak to or listen to each other.
Diana's ability to engage with people on a meaningful level reminded us what it was to be human.
There was hope that one day, we might engage with one other on that level, and society would be a much better place for it.
When she died, that hope risked fading away. People weren't just mourning Diana, but the concept of a better world.
Thankfully, we are more open today, and society is improving as we move further away from the time when the stiff upper lip caused so much damage.
I am not saying we owe it all to Diana, or that she is some kind of saint, but she certainly helped to show us the way.
I always felt that the legacy of that outpouring was a shameless lack of decorum and loss of inhibition.
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Strange response. Care to explain ?
Or that you saw that you were wrong about Elton blanking Diana at the Versace funeral service and didn't bother to comment.
Mm.....no.
Perhaps he felt as the mother of his son's, it was the right thing to do .
What has that to do with being royal? Her father was dead, her mother was in a remote part of Scotland, her brother was abroad and Charles was clearly the easiest person to call on. .
He was likely grieving, and angry. Emotions run high during bereavement and funerals.
And the fact everyone in Hyde Park stood up and applauded merely because his speech sounded emotional (and therefore profound) is another indication of the aggressive, unthinking sentimentality that was abroad.
I thought Earl Spencer's speech was great. My family was pleased that he came out with what he did. He said what needed to be said at the time.
Oh god I did! Naffness in the extreme! I'm just glad the X Factor wasn't around at the time or we'd have had One Direction or some such thing instead!!! Elton was bad enough.
Yes, she was his sister: his grief was real. But she wasn't the public's sister. The hysterical element in the public reaction to her death was largely generated by the media, which of course is how most people had their relationship with her. It was a little glimpse of what the country would be like if it were ruled by The Sun.
Tut... how could anyone claim Elton blanked Diana... she was a blank cheque to him after all
Did he get to go in a helicopter... dem royals love dem helicopters!!!!
I know, I was only referring to his speech, which was referred to as nasty. It probably was nasty and spiteful to blurt that out at the funeral, but as I said, people can get a bit crazy during family deaths and funerals. (There was an actual fight at one of my family funeral wakes)
As for the part of your post referring to the public. Yeah, that was a real watershed moment in British history. Real hysteria and madness on a grand scale, and I think we have changed as a nation since that moment. I watched all the wailing and pilgrimages to Buckingham Palace and I remember thinking that people have completely lost their minds here. This is nuts!
Strange times indeed.
I saw nothing, as I didn't bother to look at your link. We are suffering from very slow download speeds atm and besides, as I said, I'm not that interested.
I can see from this that we are unlikely to agree about anything regarding Diana Spencer, so I shall move on.
It's ironic that he never applied some of it to himself. Utter hypocrite. People in glass houses ectc.
I note neither of the princes attended his 3rd wedding.
...that I didn't immediately set up a flower and stuffed toy stall near Kensington Palace. I'd have made a fortune.
Well, he didn't blank her at all like you said. As for the second bit, that wasn't in reply to you, but another poster.
The Mail has turned on Kate (and the Middleton's in general) over the past year or so. Not sure what their agenda is other than getting the anti and pro's at each other's throats. But they can't seem to make up their minds one minute it's all "isn't she wonderful", next day "3 kitchens Kate spends £4.2 million and rips out a perfectly good bespoke kitchen".
The press were all turning on Diana before she died, the uturn they did was quite something and very hypocritical.
She introduced them to Will Carling, I suppose being introduced to your mother's fancy man might be quite normal in some circles. Along with being the person your mother turns to, to unburden herself.
What an odd post.
I always imagine Carole taking Kate to one side and dispensing the opposite of the usual motherly advice
"Kate, look at me and promise me that you have stopped taking your pill!"
You have to remember that in those days people didn't really share their feelings or talk about problems. If you did, people would become anxious and not know how to respond, because it was so unusual, and they weren't used to it.
This conspiracy of silence was damaging to society. We were ignorant of so much suffering because we didn't speak to or listen to each other.
Diana's ability to engage with people on a meaningful level reminded us what it was to be human.
There was hope that one day, we might engage with one other on that level, and society would be a better place as a result.
When she died, that hope risked fading away. People mourned Diana and the concept of a better world.
Thankfully, we are more open today, and society is improving as we move further away from the time when the stiff upper lip caused so much damage.
I am not saying we owe it all to Diana, or that she is some kind of saint, but she certainly helped to show us the way.
I always felt that the legacy of that outpouring was a shameless lack of decorum and loss of inhibition.