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Hotbird on the cheap

CherylFanCherylFan Posts: 1,620
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Hi there
Is it possible to use a portable satellite dish (like those for caravan use) to get Hotbird? I already have a 90cm dish on the roof with 2 LNBs (for 19.2 and 28.2) and am looking for a cheap way of getting Hotbird, which I would only need occasionally. (I live in Warwickshire).
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    paulx23paulx23 Posts: 2,138
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    CherylFan wrote: »
    Hi there
    Is it possible to use a portable satellite dish (like those for caravan use) to get Hotbird? I already have a 90cm dish on the roof with 2 LNBs (for 19.2 and 28.2) and am looking for a cheap way of getting Hotbird, which I would only need occasionally. (I live in Warwickshire).
    Thanks
    One of the 'caravan' dishes would be fine for Hotbird, its a very strong signal.
    Or you could add another LNB to your 90cm pointing at 13e, that would work equally as well.
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    rparslowrparslow Posts: 544
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    paulx23 wrote: »
    One of the 'caravan' dishes would be fine for Hotbird, its a very strong signal.
    Or you could add another LNB to your 90cm pointing at 13e, that would work equally as well.

    What about swapping the lnb for Astra 19 for a duo lnb ?
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    ProDaveProDave Posts: 11,398
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    CherylFan wrote: »
    Hi there
    Is it possible to use a portable satellite dish (like those for caravan use) to get Hotbird? I already have a 90cm dish on the roof with 2 LNBs (for 19.2 and 28.2) and am looking for a cheap way of getting Hotbird, which I would only need occasionally. (I live in Warwickshire).
    Thanks

    A 90cm dish will hapilly get all three. Just fit a third LNB. That's exactly what I have.
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    JamesEJamesE Posts: 6,456
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    rparslow wrote: »
    What about swapping the lnb for Astra 19 for a duo lnb ?

    Then he couldn't switch between three. A duo has the diseqc switch built in which stops you switching to a third, He might not even have a diseqc control source - he could be manually switching between the two or three.
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    CherylFanCherylFan Posts: 1,620
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    Hi all

    Yes I am indeed manually switching between the cable feeding from the "Sky" lnb and the 19.2 lnb. I was trying to find a way of accessing hotbird without having to get a satellite engineer onto the roof!
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    kevkev Posts: 21,075
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    DiSEqC switches are quite cheap much easier for switching between two sources!

    Hotbird is an easy sat to get, whenever I'm setting up my Astra 1 dish for the F1 I nearly always end up on Hotbird if it's gone out of alignment and I'm trying to find the strongest sat!

    According to Satbeams here in South Notts the signal strengths of the sats I've found strongest are (strongest to weakest)
    Eurobird - 56dBW
    Astra 1N - 54dBW
    Hotbird is next at 53dBW
    Astra 23.5 at 52dBW
    Astra 2A & 2B at 50dBW
    Astra 19.2 at 50dBW
    (from my experimenting this seems to be about right).

    I have the DiSEqC switch permanently connected to my receiver, Astra 2 in port 1 and when I have the F1 dish up I simply plug that into port 2. When playing I had Hotbird on port 4, and Astra 23.5 in port 3 (all from a 60cm dish).
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    CherylFanCherylFan Posts: 1,620
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    Life is such a learning-curve...! And all I want to do is receive the odd opera on RAI3!
    I`m guessing that if I really want to go for broke and try to receive the Metropolitan Opera`s live opera telecasts I need to go properly motorized!
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    TV DUNIYATV DUNIYA Posts: 6,772
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    CherylFan wrote: »
    Life is such a learning-curve...! And all I want to do is receive the odd opera on RAI3!
    I`m guessing that if I really want to go for broke and try to receive the Metropolitan Opera`s live opera telecasts I need to go properly motorized!

    You could get a zone 2 Sky minidish,or a 60cm standard dish and get a monoblock lnb,and receive both Astra 1 and Hotbird.
    Stick the dish on to the fence or side of the garden shed/outhouse to keep the cost down.
    As for the Met's live broadcast,they are also broadcast on 5W,(no English subtitles,only French),which is receivable on a zone 1 minidish,but as they are live feeds,I don't know if a stable signal can be received on a zone 1 minidish.
    Maybe someone who's tried can let us know.
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    CherylFanCherylFan Posts: 1,620
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    TV DUNIYA wrote: »
    You could get a zone 2 Sky minidish,or a 60cm standard dish and get a monoblock lnb,and receive both Astra 1 and Hotbird.
    Stick the dish on to the fence or side of the garden shed/outhouse to keep the cost down.
    As for the Met's live broadcast,they are also broadcast on 5W,(no English subtitles,only French),which is receivable on a zone 1 minidish,but as they are live feeds,I don't know if a stable signal can be received on a zone 1 minidish.
    Maybe someone who's tried can let us know.

    Thank you - appreciate all the help. My current dish is 90cm on the chimney with twin lnbs one for sky and one for 19.2. Not sure whether a second dish mounted on the fence is going to be acceptable to my nearest and dearest but for occasional use I might be able to get away with one which can be put up when required and then stowed away. Sounds a lot of hassle though. And alighting with an intermittent live feed source from a different satellite ie 5W might be even more of a hassle as presumably one of those signal meter/satellite finder gadgets would only "find" such a source when a live feed is broadcast.
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    kevkev Posts: 21,075
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    CherylFan wrote: »
    Thank you - appreciate all the help. My current dish is 90cm on the chimney with twin lnbs one for sky and one for 19.2. Not sure whether a second dish mounted on the fence is going to be acceptable to my nearest and dearest but for occasional use I might be able to get away with one which can be put up when required and then stowed away. Sounds a lot of hassle though. And alighting with an intermittent live feed source from a different satellite ie 5W might be even more of a hassle as presumably one of those signal meter/satellite finder gadgets would only "find" such a source when a live feed is broadcast.
    There are full time signals on 5W which would allow you to tune in when the feed is off air. As to weather the dish will then be big enough to get the feeds....
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    TV DUNIYATV DUNIYA Posts: 6,772
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    Winston_1 wrote: »
    Mono blocks are designed for 80 cms dishes. (It even says this in your link to one). The two feedhorns are not close enough to work on a 60cm dish. As for your suggestion of using one on a Sky dish I shudder. As well as being too far apart the feedhorns are the wrong shape to match a Sky dish wider than it is tall.

    I can only speak from my own experience.
    I've been using a zone 2 minidish with a standard monoblock lnb,for a number of years now,apart from not receiving a couple of transponders on Hotbird,I've had a stable signal from both Hotbird and Astra 1,in all weathers.
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    GneissGneiss Posts: 14,555
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    CherylFan wrote: »
    Thank you - appreciate all the help. My current dish is 90cm on the chimney with twin lnbs one for sky and one for 19.2. Not sure whether a second dish mounted on the fence is going to be acceptable to my nearest and dearest but for occasional use I might be able to get away with one which can be put up when required and then stowed away. Sounds a lot of hassle though. And alighting with an intermittent live feed source from a different satellite ie 5W might be even more of a hassle as presumably one of those signal meter/satellite finder gadgets would only "find" such a source when a live feed is broadcast.

    Don't forget 0.8W if you want English subtitles... the 0.8W feed is considerably weaker than the 5W feed though so you may loose it in bad weather.

    As a rule I don't take a chance and use the 5W feed with French subtitles.
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    derk weaselderk weasel Posts: 936
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    Winston_1 wrote: »
    Mono blocks are designed for 80 cms dishes. (It even says this in your link to one). The two feedhorns are not close enough to work on a 60cm dish. As for your suggestion of using one on a Sky dish I shudder. As well as being too far apart the feedhorns are the wrong shape to match a Sky dish wider than it is tall.


    still more than possible, i know this through experiance.
    i have a zone 1 sky dish set up for sky at 28.5 but have rigged another lnb up to the dish for 19.2 and have no problems with signal unless there is heavy rain.
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