Perhaps you shouldn't've referred to the Bible as an authority in your earlier post then - I don't think it proclaims Jesus to be a false messiah anywhere in its pages
Here's my thread on this topic. Every claim about Jesus being the Messiah is false.
2. I don't really care what a very small minority have to say about other peoples kids.
Technically it's mutilation, although perhaps an emotive description.
BIB - not sure what you mean here. who's talking about other peoples kids? and a small minority of what? anyway, my question is do you think that the majority of adults would have it done to themselves at an adult age?
2. I don't really care what a very small minority have to say about other peoples kids.
if you don't think it's mutilation then what exactly do you think it is? Body modification maybe? Either way this kind of thing belongs in the dark ages and it is the business of other people if parents are abusing their kids.
Technically it's mutilation, although perhaps an emotive description.
BIB - not sure what you mean here. who's talking about other peoples kids? and a small minority of what? anyway, my question is do you think that the majority of adults would have it done to themselves at an adult age?
1, Its not comparable with anything normal people would regard as mutilation.
2. You're talking about other people's kids, unless you're saying its the parents getting circumcised.
3. Adults do get it done but whether its a majority of a minority has nothing to do with anything.
Jews circumcise because it states unequivocally in the Bible to do so (Genesis 17:10-14). Christians should but don't because they pick and choose their mitzvot.
Cutting healthy functional parts of children is mutilation - religious circumcision is mutilation. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not normal!
It should be banned and be punishable.
Actually most "normal" people aren't bothered about this. Its just afew people who are basically ignorant and think they're right and everyone who doesn't follow them is either evil or stupid.
Actually most "normal" people aren't bothered about this. Its just afew people who are basically ignorant and think they're right and everyone who doesn't follow them is either evil or stupid.
if it's so gr8 why wouldn't they let people choose it for themselves when they're 13... like catholic Confirmation.
The point is that the commandment itself is that its a covenant between the parents and God that every male in their household who is 8 days old should be circumcised.
Genesis 17 verse 9-14
Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant
The point is that the commandment itself is that its a covenant between the parents and God that every male in their household who is 8 days old should be circumcised.
But why? If God doesn't want foreskins why'd he create them?
This is nothing more than genital mutilation and should be banned by law and only performed if agreed to when over the age of 16 when individuals have enough maturity to make such choices.
Actually most "normal" people aren't bothered about this. Its just afew people who are basically ignorant and think they're right and everyone who doesn't follow them is either evil or stupid.
People are bothered by it, just look at the responses in this thread.
I was circumcised for religious reasons at 8 days old so didn't have a lot to say about it
My son was also circumcised at that age as well. When my son gets married and possibly has a son he'll be circumcised as well. There's no problem about it.
We both haven't suffered at all from anything mentally or physically.
As usual there's lots of people complaining on behalf of other people and don't know what they're talking about.
it's barbaric and cruel and needs to be outlawed. Screw their silly religious reasons.
Sorry but i don't believe in sitting on the fence on matters like these as there simply is No compromise!
Quite simply this.
There is no justification for these barbaric practices; it's 2014 not the dark ages.
Jews circumcise because it states unequivocally in the Bible to do so (Genesis 17:10-14). Christians should but don't because they pick and choose their mitzvot.
OT rituals are not commands to Christians....
Only Jews and Muslims do this.
The Christian Equivalent is Baptism, this is what Jesus taught to do instead of circumcision.
I was circumcised for religious reasons at 8 days old so didn't have a lot to say about it
My son was also circumcised at that age as well. When my son gets married and possibly has a son he'll be circumcised as well. There's no problem about it.
We both haven't suffered at all from anything mentally or physically.
As usual there's lots of people complaining on behalf of other people and don't know what they're talking about.
You have at least suffered with never experiencing your genitals in their complete state.
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Here's my thread on this topic. Every claim about Jesus being the Messiah is false.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=73297070
To an atheist like me it's just one set of opinions versus another. Your proselytising is therefore wasted on me.
1. Its not mutilation.
2. I don't really care what a very small minority have to say about other peoples kids.
Technically it's mutilation, although perhaps an emotive description.
BIB - not sure what you mean here. who's talking about other peoples kids? and a small minority of what? anyway, my question is do you think that the majority of adults would have it done to themselves at an adult age?
if you don't think it's mutilation then what exactly do you think it is? Body modification maybe? Either way this kind of thing belongs in the dark ages and it is the business of other people if parents are abusing their kids.
1, Its not comparable with anything normal people would regard as mutilation.
2. You're talking about other people's kids, unless you're saying its the parents getting circumcised.
3. Adults do get it done but whether its a majority of a minority has nothing to do with anything.
It should be banned and be punishable.
Jew must be joking.
Actually most "normal" people aren't bothered about this. Its just afew people who are basically ignorant and think they're right and everyone who doesn't follow them is either evil or stupid.
That would defeat the point.
What is the point of it, exactly?
The point is that the commandment itself is that its a covenant between the parents and God that every male in their household who is 8 days old should be circumcised.
Genesis 17 verse 9-14
Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant
But why? If God doesn't want foreskins why'd he create them?
Should also ban piercing kids ears on grounds of class superiority.
Sorry I missed the Bible verses but I've added them now.
People are bothered by it, just look at the responses in this thread.
Its a tiny number of people.
My son was also circumcised at that age as well. When my son gets married and possibly has a son he'll be circumcised as well. There's no problem about it.
We both haven't suffered at all from anything mentally or physically.
As usual there's lots of people complaining on behalf of other people and don't know what they're talking about.
Quite simply this.
There is no justification for these barbaric practices; it's 2014 not the dark ages.
OT rituals are not commands to Christians....
Only Jews and Muslims do this.
The Christian Equivalent is Baptism, this is what Jesus taught to do instead of circumcision.
The question asked was
I merely answered the question.
You have at least suffered with never experiencing your genitals in their complete state.