Sherlock - BBC Drama (Part 3)
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Continuation of: Sherlock - BBC Drama (Part 2)I really enjoyed the episode. At first I was a bit distracted and it was a bit tricky to follow the story it's only on second viewing I was totally able to grasp the whole plot, on the third viewing I'm looking for clues, that's why I like sherlock there is no other programme that I would want to watch three times
I loved the humour and sherlock eccentricity I loved the court room in sherlocks head, I thought drunk sherlock was brilliant , I know there was a lot of coincidences and a little bit unbelievable murder attempt but all in all it's fiction and I thought it was clever and came together well
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On here, several people have talked more about symbolism – associated camera angles, apparently obscure props in the background etc. It is not something I tend to notice. Has such symbolism, as opposed to more tangible and what I would call “proper” clues, been used in any of the previous series of Sherlock. I don’t remember any, off the top of my head. Can anyone think of any? Is it actually a method already being used by the writers to foretell the future of the story?
Sherlock composed the music and practised the dance-steps.... maybe the steps could have been a code, like in ACD's Andventure Of The Dancing Men. And maybe that's why the dance scene ran for quite a long time, to give us the chance to notate the clue by hearing the whole tune - a bit like how the theme music to Inspector Morse was in Morse Code.
And by putting the manuscript into the envelope he's leaving the clue for someone to find. No idea if any of that is true, it's just a thought, and a way of the writers including another ACD reference in the plot.
We've also not found out how Sherlock faked his death yet, and I have a feeling the final scene of this season will be John going 'oh go on then, how did you do it?' Leading in to the big Canopy revelation, easily the most plausible theory.
Yes, the music or the Waltz dance itself looks like a warning. still not taking it for granted Sherlock wrote this piece of music, only other possible clue is the timing of the music.
Sherlcok has gave Watson Waltz dance lessons as well, he even asks them both to go and dance a Waltz just before leaving. wonder why the Waltz is mentioned so many times if it is irrelevant.
But I think the the version sherlock gave Anderson was the most plausible theory, I think they jokingly didn't say it was the absolute truth because they didn't want internet detectives picking holes in it because if they had given that as the real truth many fans of the show had guessed this theory already but it does seem the most likely, have to admit I thought rubbish truck filled with soft stuff but that only happens in cartoons and James Bond movies, realistically you would need a proper stunt guy mattress but then the whole why fake his death in front of John but not the sniper guy seems a bit unbelievable
I think they faked his death had an idea of how it was to work out but then saw that people wouldn't believe he jumped off a building that tall into a waiting truck without injury so changed the story after reading people's comments on the internet, they even mentioned the reason they didn't use the van in the show
I expect you are right regarding it all linking together. I found the idea that a lone disgruntled brother would be able to find and contact the 5 women who all worked for the major (? Re rank) who is hiding for his own safety, a bit far fetched - so tend to think it could be part of a bigger picture. Of course, in this type (if there is a type) of detective fiction, such disgruntled brothers are able to find people, so it still might be a stand alone story.
But on balance, I think it is all connected – including the train bomb and possibly even the bank robberies at the beginning.
I also expect that the fall from series 2 will be explained, although I'm going with Sherlock into the laundry wagon and away, and the dead look alike dropped onto the pavement, to be accepted as real by a disorientated Watson
My main conclusion, and the only thing I’m absolutely certain about is that...
...I’ll be watching it on Sunday, to find out...
...and then be left with a two year wait following yet another cliff-hanger (You XXXXXXXX, Gatiss and Moffat.
Revisiting the fall achieves little more than a sense of closure for those fans who want it (personally, I've moved on and am satisfied with the way it was told).
Also - and this for me is the biggest reason of all for not resolving the fall - to do so would be a backward step which will detract from the plot and the ending of the final episode.
I agree I think the version he gave Anderson is all we will get and it was an explanation, fans might not like it but it's probably the only credible explanation for it, I thought it was clever in the respect they answered why the little girl screamed when she saw sherlock and the fact that's how sherlock knew he would have a double in the morgue
Hmmm, well YOU've seen Episode 3, so unless you're very good at playing poker, I'd guess that we don't get to hear how it was done.
But we have been given an explanation
I'd agree with this.
She's also wearing a top that has thumbs UP and thumbs DOWN, another blatant clue that she's both good and bad in some way.
My prediction is that she will be used to put Holmes, Watson and her in a situation where Holmes has to save either her or Watson and he picks Watson.
We've seen and heard all we're going to on that one. The story has moved on.
But that would just be a rip-off of Batman's dilemma in 'The Dark Knight'.
We've been given three, I think, but I was meaning a definitive once-and-for-all non-ambiguous howdunnit.
Well the only feasible one was the one sherlock told
I do think they probably moved away from their original plan though with everyone on the internet laughing at the idea of sherlock jumping from that height and landing in the laundry van which I suspect was their original plan
That was the third one.
We're not going to be told whether or not the third version is the real version, or which bits were an exaggeration or not quite true. It's part of the mystery of the show - was Sherlock telling the truth? And if not, then what IS the truth?
We'll never know. Time to just move on and appreciate the ambiguity as part of the charm of the show.
I thought the dance lasted a long time for a tv programme , I was wondering if we should have been noticing things going on behind the dancing pair but I can't see anything suspicious
Oh you do, eh? Is that so that you can point out how they must have quickly changed tack after realising the internet was laughing at them>
How convenient!
Which itself is a ripoff of every other times its been used in stories before that tediously overlong film recycled it.
Very likely, but as other people have said, it probably doesn't matter that much as it's not crucial to the story any more. There's still that niggly doubt though, from when SM said in an interview that everyone had missed an obvious and vital clue which was paramount to the howdunnit.
Well he did mention that he had thought of that during his explanation
At first I was horror struck at the mask (mission impossible) explanation , I would have cried had they tried to pretend they used a mask