Would that be the Owen Jones who is always lecturing about how he much he cares about poor working class people in the north but chooses to live in Islington (well away from them!).
Owen Jones is a joke. Seen him a couple of times whilst trying to shout his 'working class' virtue to anyone who would listen. He went to a posh school and posher uni/college. He then has the cheek to talk about class mates being locked up. For what Tax Evasion? other 'middle class' crimes?
Read his book 'Chav, the demonetization of the working class' in the opening page him and his friends are having a dinner party taking the piss out of Chavs and people who shop at Woolworths.
A typo, well 4, 6 and 9, 2 are ever so close to each other on the keyboard, yeah right. More likely 46% doesn't sound anything like as good as 92% for my argument.
You can't call someone a liar simply because they made an error – unless you can prove it was deliberate, which you can't. Therefore your post is libellous. Good luck in court!
Owen Jones is a joke. Seen him a couple of times whilst trying to shout his 'working class' virtue to anyone who would listen. He went to a posh school and posher uni/college. He then has the cheek to talk about class mates being locked up. For what Tax Evasion? other 'middle class' crimes?
He went to Bramhall High, a comprehensive school - what's so posh about that? And why is it "cheek" to talk about classmates being locked up? You haven't really explained why he's a joke!
Would that be the Owen Jones who is always lecturing about how he much he cares about poor working class people in the north but chooses to live in Islington (well away from them!).
He went to Bramhall High, a comprehensive school - what's so posh about that? And why is it "cheek" to talk about classmates being locked up? You haven't really explained why he's a joke!
Wow you looked on his Wiki page.
The fact it's a school in a posh area of a middle class town like Stockport. My Dad who lived in Stockport all his childhood called it posh.
My classmates have gone to prison, yeah for the most middle class crimes, I'm guessing.
As for him being a joke. He's a middle class **** who writes books about the working class being victimized and is up New Labour's backside all the time. He sounds like Labour's MPs who are utter jokes just look at Milliband, Abbott and Eagle.
Yes, I thought I would check out what you said. Just because your dad called it posh doesn't meant that it was!
My classmates have gone to prison, yeah for the most middle class crimes, I'm guessing.
It's pointless to make a judgment like that if you don't actually know.
As for him being a joke. He's a middle class **** who writes books about the working class being victimized and is up New Labour's backside all the time. He sounds like Labour's MPs who are utter jokes just look at Milliband, Abbott and Eagle.
You've still not made anything like a convincing case for your argument. Why shouldn't middle class people (if that's what he is) be allowed to champion the working class?
Yes, I thought I would check out what you said. Just because your dad called it posh doesn't meant that it was!
It's pointless to make a judgment like that if you don't actually know.
You've still not made anything like a convincing case for your argument. Why shouldn't middle class people (if that's what he is) be allowed to champion the working class?
Have you ever been to Stockport?
When you're mocking people at dinner parties, it's a bit hypocritical to champion them in public.
Yes I have, but I don't see how that's relevant! In any case he did not go to a private fee-paying school, which is what people usually mean by a "posh school".
When you're mocking people at dinner parties, it's a bit hypocritical to champion them in public.
How do you know he's been mocking people at dinner parties?
When you're mocking people at dinner parties, it's a bit hypocritical to champion them in public.
Do you not think maybe if he wrote about mocking chavs at a dinner party that was the part of what made him really think about why they were being demonised and then wrote the book??
Or is the book just him saying "Chavs I bloody hate them."
Owen Jones is great, he gets people like the posters in this thread all red faced and bloated with righteous indignation.
You can be rich and stand up for the rights of the poor.
Or are people saying that once you earn over a certain amount you have to start spitting on the poor and shouting at them to "know your place"
When you're mocking people at dinner parties, it's a bit hypocritical to champion them in public.
Pretty sure he talked about the dinner party in his book to show how people have negative perceptions of the working class etc. it certainly wasn't included so he could say that he personally thinks they're all chavs, cause that would be the exact opposite of what the rest of the book is saying.
The fact it's a school in a posh area of a middle class town like Stockport. My Dad who lived in Stockport all his childhood called it posh.
My classmates have gone to prison, yeah for the most middle class crimes, I'm guessing.
As for him being a joke. He's a middle class **** who writes books about the working class being victimized and is up New Labour's backside all the time. He sounds like Labour's MPs who are utter jokes just look at Milliband, Abbott and Eagle.
Im from the home counties........Stockport is in the north therefore it can be posh.
Pretty sure he talked about the dinner party in his book to show how people have negative perceptions of the working class etc. it certainly wasn't included so he could say that he personally thinks they're all chavs, cause that would be the exact opposite of what the rest of the book is saying.
Ah I don't think it works like that. Apparently you only read the opening chapter.
Do you not think maybe if he wrote about mocking chavs at a dinner party that was the part of what made him really think about why they were being demonised and then wrote the book??
Or is the book just him saying "Chavs I bloody hate them."
Owen Jones is great, he gets people like the posters in this thread all red faced and bloated with righteous indignation.
You can be rich and stand up for the rights of the poor.
Or are people saying that once you earn over a certain amount you have to start spitting on the poor and shouting at them to "know your place"
That's often the impression given by his detractors, yes
Perhaps if he looked more like his age (30), people would take him more seriously. I'm sure some think he's still a teenager!
I see the mistake. (I think we can all agree that 46% of 50 and 46 out of 50 are not the same thing).
When Owen Jones faces the OP....Rick Davis.....in court he will have no difficulty in demonstrating that it was no more than a mistake, by simply showing the court the relevant paragraph in the book. (We have all read the book......Yes?)
But I can't see the 3 x Lies claimed by the OP?
We will have to wait to hear the defence.
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That's news to some people?
The wannabe Mandelson padawan couldn't lie straight in bed.
I'm more concerned with politicians lying with cast iron guarentees, personal pledges and vows.
Read his book 'Chav, the demonetization of the working class' in the opening page him and his friends are having a dinner party taking the piss out of Chavs and people who shop at Woolworths.
You can't call someone a liar simply because they made an error – unless you can prove it was deliberate, which you can't. Therefore your post is libellous. Good luck in court!
He went to Bramhall High, a comprehensive school - what's so posh about that? And why is it "cheek" to talk about classmates being locked up? You haven't really explained why he's a joke!
Why does it matter where he lives?
He's so cute though, I will always forgive him ;-)
Wow you looked on his Wiki page.
The fact it's a school in a posh area of a middle class town like Stockport. My Dad who lived in Stockport all his childhood called it posh.
My classmates have gone to prison, yeah for the most middle class crimes, I'm guessing.
As for him being a joke. He's a middle class **** who writes books about the working class being victimized and is up New Labour's backside all the time. He sounds like Labour's MPs who are utter jokes just look at Milliband, Abbott and Eagle.
It's pointless to make a judgment like that if you don't actually know.
You've still not made anything like a convincing case for your argument. Why shouldn't middle class people (if that's what he is) be allowed to champion the working class?
Have you ever been to Stockport?
When you're mocking people at dinner parties, it's a bit hypocritical to champion them in public.
How do you know he's been mocking people at dinner parties?
In what way?
Do you not think maybe if he wrote about mocking chavs at a dinner party that was the part of what made him really think about why they were being demonised and then wrote the book??
Or is the book just him saying "Chavs I bloody hate them."
Owen Jones is great, he gets people like the posters in this thread all red faced and bloated with righteous indignation.
You can be rich and stand up for the rights of the poor.
Or are people saying that once you earn over a certain amount you have to start spitting on the poor and shouting at them to "know your place"
Pretty sure he talked about the dinner party in his book to show how people have negative perceptions of the working class etc. it certainly wasn't included so he could say that he personally thinks they're all chavs, cause that would be the exact opposite of what the rest of the book is saying.
Im from the home counties........Stockport is in the north therefore it can be posh.
Ah I don't think it works like that. Apparently you only read the opening chapter.
Perhaps if he looked more like his age (30), people would take him more seriously. I'm sure some think he's still a teenager!
When Owen Jones faces the OP....Rick Davis.....in court he will have no difficulty in demonstrating that it was no more than a mistake, by simply showing the court the relevant paragraph in the book. (We have all read the book......Yes?)
But I can't see the 3 x Lies claimed by the OP?
We will have to wait to hear the defence.
Sorry I had to put it down, I was feeling nauseous whilst reading it, get the same feeling when reading his column for the Guardian and twitter feed
Probably best not to form an opinion on the authors point of view from the small amount of the book you read then....
Actually you can form an opinion but if you air it you may look a bit foolish if the whole premise of the book is the demonization of the chav.....