True, but she interpreted what she saw, or rather thought she saw. It's the polices job to evaluate what use that evidence is and to decide how useful and reliable she is as a witness. Clearly she wasn't a very reliable witness which is why they were able to go to trial.
I imagine that many witnesses are not particularly reliable, sometimes what you think you see is not what has actually happened.
Has he been convicted yet? If not they probably can't show it until the case is over
He's inside for five years.
I got the impression his scenes were just to show that the job was ongoing, etc. His case wasn't as convoluted as Teret, from what I can see, so I don't think there will be another series.
Was a good, informative show, again very similar in style to the ch4 show, 24 hours in Police Custody.
I haven't heard of that one. I think the programme I was referring to is 24 hours in police custody. I didn't actually watch it but I saw clips on Gogglebox where they couldn't beleive the guy was found not guilty.
I haven't seen that one on Channel 4 but people on here thought this programme would be another copy of that one but it was completely different. I must check it out.
I haven't heard of that one. I think the programme I was referring to is 24 hours in police custody. I didn't actually watch it but I saw clips on Gogglebox where they couldn't beleive the guy was found not guilty.
I haven't heard of that one. I think the programme I was referring to is 24 hours in police custody. I didn't actually watch it but I saw clips on Gogglebox where they couldn't believe the guy was found not guilty.
because he said nothing
so the police have the burden of proof they have to prove he did it, circumstantial evidence doesnt prove anything
just that he COULD have done it, thats not enough
people get confused with TV shows
when I served on a Jury I reckon the defendant probably did it but the police case was weak and mostly circumsational
we were unanimous in not guilty
I wasnt gonna send someone to jail with a "could have"
I haven't heard of that one. I think the programme I was referring to is 24 hours in police custody. I didn't actually watch it but I saw clips on Gogglebox where they couldn't believe the guy was found not guilty.
The first episode is one of the best things I have ever seen on TV, gripping stuff.
Excellent series, very informative, good to see justice done.
The producer must be a Bowie fan, his music used several times on the 3 programmes, with Rock and Roll Suicide as the play out song over the end credits tonight.
Excellent series, very informative, good to see justice done.
The producer must be a Bowie fan, his music used several times on the 3 programmes, with Rock and Roll Suicide as the play out song over the end credits tonight.
Teret seemed to play a lot of him on his show, I think that's what they picked up on.
I'm hoping they show Talbot in another series. Wanna see that filthy paedo squirm. The footage of him on the news when they caught him out 'is this your diary' 'no comment...my handwriting's really terrible there' was hilarious lol
But she only witnessed it for 3 minutes. She shouldn't have said it was consensual sex.
I am not saying anything one way or the other - however the CCTV does not have sound - so if there were no cries for help or screaming (in a bad way) - and you saw a couple "coupling" - you would probably assume they were just having drunken sex in the street.
Why was Teret always hiding his mouth? He was either carrying something or holding something against his mouth the whole time he was on screen. He did the same when he was going into court for his trial. Weird. I could understand if he was hiding his whole face, but by just hiding his mouth he's not disguising himself.
Yes I found that a bit weird too. He either held a piece of paper in his mouth or a handkerchief, odd behaviour.
I felt really sorry for Ellie - I hope that she got the support and counseling she needed and has genuinely put this all behind her.
However I can see how the jury were placed. There was no corroborating evidence, simply one person's word against another - it's hard to say but while I totally believe her you can't really claim the case was proved beyond reasonable doubt.
Perhaps there is an argument for making the Scottish "Not Proven" verdict available south of the border.
Teret seemed to play a lot of him on his show, I think that's what they picked up on.
I'm hoping they show Talbot in another series. Wanna see that filthy paedo squirm. The footage of him on the news when they caught him out 'is this your diary' 'no comment...my handwriting's really terrible there' was hilarious lol
With respect I don't think that is why they played Bowie at the end, that would have been like a tribute to him because he played Bowie a lot. I think it was more a song with a meaning for the women, that they are not alone and are wonderful.
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and she was sober and unconnected
juries tend to believe them more
I am filled with admiration for the victims and the police.
Has he been convicted yet? If not they probably can't show it until the case is over
Yes he's been convicted and sentenced to 5 years.
I am filled with admiration for the victims who found the courage to report the crimes and the police who undertake such painstaking investigations.
It was moving to see how much it meant when that detective got the call about the DNA match.
He's inside for five years.
I got the impression his scenes were just to show that the job was ongoing, etc. His case wasn't as convoluted as Teret, from what I can see, so I don't think there will be another series.
Was a good, informative show, again very similar in style to the ch4 show, 24 hours in Police Custody.
I haven't seen that one on Channel 4 but people on here thought this programme would be another copy of that one but it was completely different. I must check it out.
I watched it and I couldn't believe it either.
because he said nothing
so the police have the burden of proof they have to prove he did it, circumstantial evidence doesnt prove anything
just that he COULD have done it, thats not enough
people get confused with TV shows
when I served on a Jury I reckon the defendant probably did it but the police case was weak and mostly circumsational
we were unanimous in not guilty
I wasnt gonna send someone to jail with a "could have"
if it was you youd prob do the same
The first episode is one of the best things I have ever seen on TV, gripping stuff.
The producer must be a Bowie fan, his music used several times on the 3 programmes, with Rock and Roll Suicide as the play out song over the end credits tonight.
Teret seemed to play a lot of him on his show, I think that's what they picked up on.
I'm hoping they show Talbot in another series. Wanna see that filthy paedo squirm. The footage of him on the news when they caught him out 'is this your diary' 'no comment...my handwriting's really terrible there' was hilarious lol
I am not saying anything one way or the other - however the CCTV does not have sound - so if there were no cries for help or screaming (in a bad way) - and you saw a couple "coupling" - you would probably assume they were just having drunken sex in the street.
Yes I found that a bit weird too. He either held a piece of paper in his mouth or a handkerchief, odd behaviour.
I felt really sorry for Ellie - I hope that she got the support and counseling she needed and has genuinely put this all behind her.
However I can see how the jury were placed. There was no corroborating evidence, simply one person's word against another - it's hard to say but while I totally believe her you can't really claim the case was proved beyond reasonable doubt.
Perhaps there is an argument for making the Scottish "Not Proven" verdict available south of the border.
With respect I don't think that is why they played Bowie at the end, that would have been like a tribute to him because he played Bowie a lot. I think it was more a song with a meaning for the women, that they are not alone and are wonderful.