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Climate Change is now a Religion

Black CloudBlack Cloud Posts: 7,057
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Belief in climate change can now be considered to be a religion and has the protection of the 2003 Religion and Belief Regulations.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/nov/03/tim-nicholson-climate-change-belief

It was only a matter of time I suppose.
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    jjwalesjjwales Posts: 48,574
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    Interesting spin! However the ruling makes clear that it's not a religion but a deeply held philosophical belief, which is entitled to the same protection as religious convictions.
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    rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    This looks like it's bordering on legal minefield territory. What's to stop anyone citing anything as a personally held philosophical belief?
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    CSJBCSJB Posts: 6,188
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    The world has gone completely mad and bonkers.
    It's an old story from 2009 though.
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    paulschapmanpaulschapman Posts: 35,536
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    jjwales wrote: »
    Interesting spin! However the ruling makes clear that it's not a religion but a deeply held philosophical belief, which is entitled to the same protection as religious convictions.

    This is bordering on the absurd (OK so it may have decided to bypass absurd and move on to something else). While climate change is no doubt happening - after all it did happen without any intervention from the monkey descendants known as Homo Sapiens. That said religion is about faith - requiring little in the way of absolute proof. Science however is about questioning any given hypothesis and refining it in light of new evidence.
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    jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,999
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    After laughing I assume a non-belief in man-made climate change is entitled to the same protection.

    I don't see where in the article having been made redundant how he was able to a claim to an employment tribunal for unfair dismissal.
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    jjwalesjjwales Posts: 48,574
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    rusty123 wrote: »
    This looks like it's bordering on legal minefield territory. What's to stop anyone citing anything as a personally held philosophical belief?

    They can cite anything they like - doesn't mean the court will accept it!
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    allaortaallaorta Posts: 19,050
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    Belief in climate change can now be considered to be a religion and has the protection of the 2003 Religion and Belief Regulations.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/nov/03/tim-nicholson-climate-change-belief

    It was only a matter of time I suppose.

    And njp and andykins are archangels, with you and jelliedeel both on 666.
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    Black CloudBlack Cloud Posts: 7,057
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    jjwales wrote: »
    They can cite anything they like - doesn't mean the court will accept it!

    True, but then again it might.
    I wouldn't have thought a court would have accepted this claim but they did.
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    Black CloudBlack Cloud Posts: 7,057
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    allaorta wrote: »
    And njp and andykins are archangels, with you and jelliedeel both on 666.

    Well we are gonna be responsible for helfire and damnation right here on Earth, or so some would have you believe.
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    allaortaallaorta Posts: 19,050
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    True, but then again it might.
    I wouldn't have thought a court would have accepted this claim but they did.

    The judge may well have been a Green, someone for which climate change is the Holey Grail.
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    jjwalesjjwales Posts: 48,574
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    True, but then again it might.
    I wouldn't have thought a court would have accepted this claim but they did.

    In this case I can understand why:

    "He [Nicholson, head of sustainability at the firm] alleged that while the firm had good written policies on the environment it had refused to abide by them, and claimed that when he tried to encourage the company to become more responsible, he was obstructed by his bosses."
    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/nov/03/tim-nicholson-climate-change-belief
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    EnnerjeeEnnerjee Posts: 5,131
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    And al religions it will have its brainwashed fundamentalists.
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    andyknandykn Posts: 66,849
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    This is bordering on the absurd (OK so it may have decided to bypass absurd and move on to something else). While climate change is no doubt happening - after all it did happen without any intervention from the monkey descendants known as Homo Sapiens. That said religion is about faith - requiring little in the way of absolute proof. Science however is about questioning any given hypothesis and refining it in light of new evidence.

    That would be why the Judge ruled "It must be a belief and not an opinion or view based on the present state of information available."
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    jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    Does that mean it would be a mortal sin to vote against our current MP, who is not only a strong believer in climate change, but unfortunately also has a cabinet seat telling us all what to do about it?
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    allaortaallaorta Posts: 19,050
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    To be a religion, there must be a deity. Who is the god of global warming?
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    allaortaallaorta Posts: 19,050
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    jsmith99 wrote: »
    Does that mean it would be a mortal sin to vote against our current MP, who is not only a strong believer in climate change, but unfortunately also has a cabinet seat telling us all what to do about it?

    According to some on here, it's already a mortal sin.
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    Black CloudBlack Cloud Posts: 7,057
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    allaorta wrote: »
    To be a religion, there must be a deity. Who is the god of global warming?

    Not necessarily, Budhism doesn't have a deity as such.

    That said it would be better if it had a deity so should we have vote on NJP, Andykn or Elfcurry for climate change godhead.
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    allaortaallaorta Posts: 19,050
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    Not necessarily, Budhism doesn't have a deity as such.

    That said it would be better if it had a deity so should we have vote on NJP, Andykn or Elfcurry for climate change godhead.

    And despite popular misconception, Buddhism isn't a religion, its a philosophy. Ignore the oft incorrect Wikipedia and some so-called scholars who want to alter the meaning.
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    jjwalesjjwales Posts: 48,574
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    jsmith99 wrote: »
    Does that mean it would be a mortal sin to vote against our current MP, who is not only a strong believer in climate change, but unfortunately also has a cabinet seat telling us all what to do about it?

    No, it's not a religion - the thread title is misleading!
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    jmclaugh wrote: »
    After laughing I assume a non-belief in man-made climate change is entitled to the same protection.

    Actually, you may be onto something: in the case of AGW deniers*, their belief is more akin to a religious one as it appears to be based on blind faith (usually in anything published on wattsupwiththat.com).

    (* rather than genuine sceptics)
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    andyknandykn Posts: 66,849
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    jjwales wrote: »
    No, it's not a religion - the thread title is misleading!

    That's sceptics for ya, can't win an honest debate.
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    DadDancerDadDancer Posts: 3,920
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    About time
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    Black CloudBlack Cloud Posts: 7,057
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    jjwales wrote: »
    No, it's not a religion - the thread title is misleading!

    True but belief in climate change now has the protection of the 2003 Religion and Belief Regulations.
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    Black CloudBlack Cloud Posts: 7,057
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    allaorta wrote: »
    And despite popular misconception, Buddhism isn't a religion, its a philosophy. Ignore the oft incorrect Wikipedia and some so-called scholars who want to alter the meaning.

    Suppose your right but I sure it will have the protection of the 2003 Religion and Belief Regulations.
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    jcafcwjcafcw Posts: 11,282
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    Seeing as the scientific theory about the beginning of existence has no tangible proof at the moment then climate change sits in the same wheelhouse.

    I would imagine, in the future, climate change will be (dis)proved more easily than what made existence happen.
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