The Leveson Inquiry: Culture, Practices & Ethics of the Press, 2012

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  • ZeusZeus Posts: 10,459
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    I think an important aspect of the investigation is to question whether those politicians who did not have (and have not had) a supportive relationship with the Murdoch empire suffered politically as a result.
    Recent examples could be John Major, Gordon Brown, Ed Milliband and Nick Clegg.
    The attempt is being made to level the playing field. Absolutely right and about time.

    Yes, they all jigsaw pieces basically. Leveson wants as many parts of the puzzle as he can get so that an overall picture will eventually form.
  • JillyJilly Posts: 20,455
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    I think an important aspect of the investigation is to question whether those politicians who did not have (and have not had) a supportive relationship with the Murdoch empire suffered politically as a result.
    Recent examples could be John Major, Gordon Brown, Ed Milliband and Nick Clegg.
    The attempt is being made to level the playing field. Absolutely right and about time.

    I do not see Gordon Brown in that group, I assume he was close to Murdoch until they fell out. He was also a major part of the Blair Government which was also very close to Murdoch.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 87,224
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    "What to expect from Leveson's biggest week "
    politics.co.uk
    http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2012/06/08/preview-leveson-s-biggest-week


    "PM and chancellor expected to face awkward questions about Andy Coulson job and News Corp bid for full control of BSkyB"
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/08/leveson-david-cameron-george-osborne
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 102,979
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    Well..........Leveson is also looking for solutions and whatever his recommendations are it'll be up to the Government initially and Parliament eventually to implement them or not

    Presumably he wants to get a feel from the main party leaders as to what they're likely to accept so he can draw up recommendations that might have cross-party support
  • gummy mummygummy mummy Posts: 26,600
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    Jilly wrote: »
    I do not see Gordon Brown in that group, I assume he was close to Murdoch until they fell out. He was also a major part of the Blair Government which was also very close to Murdoch.

    Didn't Blair say at the Leveson inquiry that he only became 'friends' with Murdoch after leaving number 10 ?
  • AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,476
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    Didn't Blair say at the Leveson inquiry that he only became 'friends' with Murdoch after leaving number 10 ?

    He did indeed. He said that they had a professional relationship before and became close friends afterwards. Blair said that he clearly knew the difference between a working relationship and a personal one.
  • glasshalffullglasshalffull Posts: 22,291
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    Why the hell is Ed Millibland being called? And Nick Clegg for that matter? Their combined influence is less than that of a marble upon a tank.

    Um...possibly because both were involved in writing the terms of reference for the Enquiry...which Miliband was the first to call for.

    As to their combined or individual influence...it's potentially greater than that of the Conservative Party when it comes to implementing any recommendations in the future...not least because neither of their parties benefits from the unswerving support of about 85% of the Press who will squeal.

    They have nothing to lose from annoying the likes of the Barclay Brothers, Richard Desmond or Paul Dacre :D
  • JillyJilly Posts: 20,455
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    He did indeed. He said that they had a professional relationship before and became close friends afterwards. Blair said that he clearly knew the difference between a working relationship and a personal one.

    and we all believed him:)
  • David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    Um...possibly because both were involved in writing the terms of reference for the Enquiry...which Miliband was the first to call for.

    As to their combined or individual influence...it's potentially greater than that of the Conservative Party when it comes to implementing any recommendations in the future...not least because neither of their parties benefits from the unswerving support of about 85% of the Press who will squeal.

    They have nothing to lose from annoying the likes of the Barclay Brothers, Richard Desmond or Paul Dacre :D

    Miliband was certainly among the front runners, but not the first. The earliest call I've found for a judge-led inquiry was from Lord Fowler (the chairman of the Lords communications select committee) back in January 2011. There may well be someone before that.

    Anyone that annoys Paul Dacre should be given his own TV series IMVHO.
  • glasshalffullglasshalffull Posts: 22,291
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    David Tee wrote: »
    Miliband was certainly among the front runners, but not the first. The earliest call I've found for a judge-led inquiry was from Lord Fowler (the chairman of the Lords communications select committee) back in January 2011. There may well be someone before that.

    Anyone that annoys Paul Dacre should be given his own TV series IMVHO.

    I was referring to the HofC...and you are right about Norman Fowler...one of the more decent, thoughtful and less tribal politicians of his generation the current shower could do well to learn from.

    TV series? Only a TV series? :eek:...a National Holiday named in their honour at very least :D
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,400
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    Met police to investigate the Cruddas cash for access affair. No matter how hard they try the stench of corruption just wont go away.

    :)
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    You have no reason to be certain that George Osborne did any persuading of anyone. That's just an assumption on your part.

    Murdoch is no fool. He could probably see, like the rest of us, what an election liability Brown would be and decided for himself.

    Mr Osborne is the very heart of all the torys troubles , he pursuaded Cameron to appoint Coulson instead of Hari, Osbornes charm offensive in getting NI's support & he was the one who suggested Hunt for the job. Mr Osborne is not so much chancellor, but the very guts of the tory engine in Downing Street & so its quite clear that the has the most questions to answer about all manner of items raised as part of Levesons inquiry so far. Osborne detests Gordon Brown & its quite telling that after Osbornes chasing of NI, that the Suns headlines about Brown where quite vicious in destroying Brown. Surely mission accomplished for Osborne?

    Wasnt Murdoch senior apprehensive about swicthing support & it took a lot of pursuading from James & Rebekah to get him to make the switch. Why would the two big winners from the BskyB bid deal going through be keen for Murdoch snr to switch his titles support? Skewed by the good old days of Thatcher making things happen & so the thinking of , well they allowed us to game change last time, they'll let us do it this time as well.

    As weve learned New Labour new they where playing with a loaded dice & through Blairs desire to avoid Labour getting another mauling he set the arms race in motion & so Osborne knowing what had been done set about getting the tories message accross to NI, so what sweetners where discussed? Hunts support of James Murdoch's McTaggart lecture being no coincidence, Mr Camerons bonfire of the quango's that directly mentioned OFCOM? All adds up to the mess the tories find themselves in over this.

    Milliband & Clegg are important witness's given the way the right wing press reports them , reporting the facts of just furthering their owners business interests by making it difficult for differing views to be heard clearly?

    :)
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