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Ron_JRon_J Posts: 1,751
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When I bought my house money was tight so I just bought the cheapest vacuum cleaner Tesco sold. It was around 40 quid and it is utterly crap, it makes a lot of noise but barely sucks. A couple of years later I'm fed up with it and I've got more disposable income so I'm looking to buy a new one.

I have carpet in my hall, on my stairs and landing but my other rooms have wooden floorboards. I'm ambivalent about whether or not it should have a bag but I want something that actually cleans properly. I was thinking of getting a Henry because I've heard good things about them but I know nothing about vacuum cleaners so any advice would be welcome.
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    Hugh JboobsHugh Jboobs Posts: 15,316
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    Get a Henry, they're brilliant.

    Builders and cleaners have Henrys. Nuff said.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 134
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    Get a Henry, they're brilliant.

    Builders and cleaners have Henrys. Nuff said.

    +1, love Henrys face.
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    Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,518
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    We sell cleaners - go for a Henry :D
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    molliepopsmolliepops Posts: 26,828
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    Get a Henry, they're brilliant.

    Builders and cleaners have Henrys. Nuff said.

    Yes they do mainly in my experience because they are almost indestructible and the cleaning ability is secondary really. In an office environment you need something to pick up paperclips and stuff not pet hair or domestic mess. You also need one can be fixed quickly and cheaply. At home requirements are different and I would only recommend a henry when purchased with an airo head to groom the carpet and pick up pet hair if you have a pet that is.
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    davordavor Posts: 6,874
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    I bought this one few months ago, and I'm happy with it. It was a bit pricey, but it's very silent and most importantly, sucks like a horny hooker. If you are willing to spend a bit more on a vacuum cleaner and you want a robust and reliable product, I'd recommend this one.
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    RellyRelly Posts: 3,469
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    If I remember rightly, we can't buy a vacuum over 1600w now in the UK, so that one linked by davor is a corker. I didn't have the money to get a very powerful vac when I heard about the ban, and I thought I was forevermore completely buggered. So, thanks, davor. :D

    (FYI Ron, or anyone else, if you hadn't heard: link about the EU ban)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28878432
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    Hugh JboobsHugh Jboobs Posts: 15,316
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    molliepops wrote: »
    Yes they do mainly in my experience because they are almost indestructible and the cleaning ability is secondary really. In an office environment you need something to pick up paperclips and stuff not pet hair or domestic mess. You also need one can be fixed quickly and cheaply. At home requirements are different and I would only recommend a henry when purchased with an airo head to groom the carpet and pick up pet hair if you have a pet that is.

    I don't have a pet, so can't comment on Henry's ability with pet hair.

    However, I do have two very messy toddlers and need to hoover almost daily. Henry is the best and most reliable vacuum cleaner I have ever owned and I have owned a few! Including two Dysons which barely lasted a couple of years each. Overpriced shite.
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    njpnjp Posts: 27,583
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    Relly wrote: »
    If I remember rightly, we can't buy a vacuum over 1600w now in the UK, so that one linked by davor is a corker. I didn't have the money to get a very powerful vac when I heard about the ban, and I thought I was forevermore completely buggered. So, thanks, davor. :D
    Note that the vacuum cleaner about which he is so enthusiastic has a power rating of only 700W - well below the current permitted limit, and probably well below any conceivable future limit.

    Buying a vacuum cleaner because it uses a lot of watts is like buying a car because it uses a lot of petrol.
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    cat's whiskascat's whiskas Posts: 877
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    njp wrote: »
    Note that the vacuum cleaner about which he is so enthusiastic has a power rating of only 700W - well below the current permitted limit, and probably well below any conceivable future limit.

    Buying a vacuum cleaner because it uses a lot of watts is like buying a car because it uses a lot of petrol.

    If he bought it several months ago he probably got the earlier version which had a 1200w motor.

    I got the Bosch BGS5PETGB 2200w about a month ago and it's the bees knees, but it has now been replaced with the BGS5PET2GB.
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    njpnjp Posts: 27,583
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    If he bought it several months ago he probably got the earlier version which had a 1200w motor.
    But a 1200W machine would still be within EU limits. Perhaps they have realised that selling vacuum cleaners by the number of watts they consume was going to cease to be an effective marketing strategy.
    I got the Bosch BGS5PETGB 2200w about a month ago and it's the bees knees, but it has now been replaced with the BGS5PET2GB.
    I'm sure it warms your room very effectively!
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    Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,518
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    njp wrote: »
    But a 1200W machine would still be within EU limits. Perhaps they have realised that selling vacuum cleaners by the number of watts they consume was going to cease to be an effective marketing strategy.


    I'm sure it warms your room very effectively!

    But more importantly it cleans better - how does taking longer to vacuum up save on electricity?, just as cheap to use a more powerful one for less time.

    Likewise, the amount of heat put in the room will be similar, just over a longer period.
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    njpnjp Posts: 27,583
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    But more importantly it cleans better - how does taking longer to vacuum up save on electricity?, just as cheap to use a more powerful one for less time.

    Likewise, the amount of heat put in the room will be similar, just over a longer period.
    And your evidence for that claim is where?

    I presume you do know that putting a lot of power into a motor does not necessarily translate into moving a lot of air?
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    cat's whiskascat's whiskas Posts: 877
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    njp wrote: »
    But a 1200W machine would still be within EU limits. Perhaps they have realised that selling vacuum cleaners by the number of watts they consume was going to cease to be an effective marketing strategy.


    I'm sure it warms your room very effectively!


    It's so quick and efficient it's not on for long enough!
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    cat's whiskascat's whiskas Posts: 877
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    But more importantly it cleans better - how does taking longer to vacuum up save on electricity?, just as cheap to use a more powerful one for less time..

    My experience agrees with this.
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    Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,518
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    njp wrote: »
    And your evidence for that claim is where?

    The laws of physics?.

    I presume you do know that putting a lot of power into a motor does not necessarily translate into moving a lot of air?

    Assuming equal efficiencies it does - what is your evidence for assuming that a low power cleaner sucks just as well as a high power one? :D

    Have you never used vacuum cleaners?, presumably not or you wouldn't make such a silly suggestion.
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    SuesSues Posts: 1,475
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    I have used a Dyson for years but although it was OK it was also heavy and I hated heaving it up and down stairs.

    About a year ago I bought a GTech AirRam. It is cordless and doesn't have a bag at all, just a small tray where the dust and dirt go and comes out as two square blocks when the tray is emptied. It is lovely and light and of course I don't have to keep connecting and disconnecting the plug. I juice it up about once a week and it is so efficient and gets everything, even though I have a long-haired cat. The only disadvantage is that it doesn't have tools but I bought the small hand-held GTech for the cobwebs and dusting radiators etc. Together they are marvellous and I could lift the AirRam up the stairs using one finger.
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    RandomSallyRandomSally Posts: 7,072
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    Henry.
    Nuff said.
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    njpnjp Posts: 27,583
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    The laws of physics?
    No such law. No wonder you are confused.
    Assuming equal efficiencies it does
    And why are you assuming equal efficiencies?
    Have you never used vacuum cleaners?, presumably not or you wouldn't make such a silly suggestion.
    Just weird. Presumably your imaginary data on vacuum cleaner efficiency comes from the same secret source as your imaginary data on appliance reliability.
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    JohnbeeJohnbee Posts: 4,019
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    The biggest choice is between a round one that you drag around and has a head that you scrape with, good for poking in corners and under things, or an upright one that you push around which also brushes up the stuff. Uprights take a bit less storage room.

    If you want an upright one, Sebo are best but cost plenty. They are not very heavy and have a fairly narrow head and go along walls well.
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    SeasideLadySeasideLady Posts: 20,774
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    See if you can still get a Hoover Pet Smart, 1900w, for about £60 in Asda. Really strong suction - honestly ! I'm impressed with mine, and I have carpet and laminate flooring. As for Henry hoovers - flaming nuisance they are, because you can't store the hose and tube on them, so they take up storage space. We have one at work and it's inconvenient trying to prop the hose up alongside - always slides down !
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    lozengerlozenger Posts: 4,881
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    The only thing better than a Henry is the new improved Henry Xtra... Just got one last week as my cleaner refuses to use the Dyson - Henry is Boss :)

    http://www.henryvacs.co.uk/acatalog/Henry_Xtra_Vacuum_Cleaner_HVX_200-22.html?gclid=CNLKkd_MicECFWjMtAodrloAiQ
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    c4rvc4rv Posts: 29,620
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    Another vote for Henry. Get the rotating brush head if you have a lot of carpets.
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    toofasttoofast Posts: 2,240
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    Look no further than any Miele vacuum cleaner.

    They are simply the best I have ever used!
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    Ron_JRon_J Posts: 1,751
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    Lots to think about then. Thanks everyone, keep the advice coming (physics discussion not so much).
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    Sues wrote: »
    I have used a Dyson for years but although it was OK it was also heavy and I hated heaving it up and down stairs.

    About a year ago I bought a GTech AirRam. It is cordless and doesn't have a bag at all, just a small tray where the dust and dirt go and comes out as two square blocks when the tray is emptied. It is lovely and light and of course I don't have to keep connecting and disconnecting the plug. I juice it up about once a week and it is so efficient and gets everything, even though I have a long-haired cat. The only disadvantage is that it doesn't have tools but I bought the small hand-held GTech for the cobwebs and dusting radiators etc. Together they are marvellous and I could lift the AirRam up the stairs using one finger.

    I had a dyson animal and it was crap. was forever getting bunged up and never picked up anything.

    Just treated myself to a GTech AirRam and it's the dogs dangly bits! Picks up stuff I never knew was there and my place is wooden floors throughout. If you can afford it they are brill. And tiny!!!!

    On a budget go for a Henry, they are brilliant. Couldn't get one as have no place to store it unfortunately.
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