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1.3 million housing association tenants, will get a discount of up to 70% to buy

shoestring25shoestring25 Posts: 4,715
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1.3 million housing association tenants, who will get a discount of up to 70% to buy their own home.

a slap in the face to the rest of us who have paid full price for our houses
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    tealadytealady Posts: 26,266
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    And ultimately will be funded by the taxpayer to some degree.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 17,060
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    Woohoo!! :D
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    CharnhamCharnham Posts: 61,387
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    so the government can force housing associations to sell then? this is one of the more bizarre ideas the Tories have come up with, selling homes that they dont own.
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    So why should HAs bother to build or buy properties if they can be sold from under them.
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    Turnbull2000Turnbull2000 Posts: 7,588
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    Should bring some bargains for acquiring rental property though! If a HA tenant has bought as 70% discount, shouldn't be too hard to pressure them to sell below market value.
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    Turnbull2000Turnbull2000 Posts: 7,588
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    So why should HAs bother to build or buy properties if they can be sold from under them.

    It won't. That's the point - reducing greatly the provision of charitable, council and affordable housing provision, and instead shifting tenure to private rental and owner-occupier.

    There's also a high prevalence of HA properties in marginal constituencies, so politically this was a very smart move by Cameron and Osborne. Housing is wot won it for the Tories.
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    snukrsnukr Posts: 19,723
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    tealady wrote: »
    And ultimately will be funded by the taxpayer to some degree.
    What about all the rent they've been paying for years?
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    Turnbull2000Turnbull2000 Posts: 7,588
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    snukr wrote: »
    What about all the rent they've been paying for years?

    Huh? They're paying rent to the housing associations, not the government. The housing associations receive the rent to help fund new housing, pay down borrowings and maintain existing stock.

    The discounts are being funded by forcing local authorities to sell off assets, especially council housing. The multi-billion pound cost will ultimately be borne by non-Housing Association taxpayers.
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    fleabeefleabee Posts: 1,852
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    It might be worth buying mums for her then. Something for my retirement!
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    Here in Scotland the opposite is happening.WEF Aug 2016.No more right to buy from council or housing assoc.
    Many years I bought my flat from Scottish Homes HA.My elderly neighbours were up in arms about it.'These flats are for old folk etc'.I didn't care.I bought it for a 70% discount then sold it on eventully for a huge profit.
    Not many people are buying now anyway.All the good stock has long since been sold on.
    Maybe with the change in the law they'll(the councils)will start building again.They haven't for many many years now.
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    TeganRhanTeganRhan Posts: 2,947
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    U96 wrote: »
    Here in Scotland the opposite is happening.WEF Aug 2016.No more right to buy from council or housing assoc.
    Many years I bought my flat from Scottish Homes HA.My elderly neighbours were up in arms about it.'These flats are for old folk etc'.I didn't care.I bought it for a huge discount then sold it on eventully for a huge profit.
    Not many people are buying now anyway.All the good stock has long since been sold on.
    Maybe with the change in the law they'll(the councils)will start building again.They haven't for many many years now.

    I disagree with the "not many people are buying" in regards to Glasgow at least. The property value here is so low most are buying from auction. I think it's great personally, coming from Cardiff where the prices are sky high.
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    TeganRhan wrote: »
    I disagree with the "not many people are buying" in regards to Glasgow at least. The property value here is so low most are buying from auction. I think it's great personally, coming from Cardiff where the prices are sky high.

    Why is it so low?.Rough areas?,run down tenements with huge compulsory repair orders hanging over them?.
    I live over on the east coast.The only council properties that haven't been bought up are the dumps.You can spot them a mile away.Still some council properties amongst the estates thast have been bought up.99% rented by oap's who haven't given in to their offsprings 'i'll buy it for you and you can live rent free-as long as you leave it to me' demands.>:(
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    TeganRhanTeganRhan Posts: 2,947
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    U96 wrote: »
    Why is it so low?.Rough areas?,run down tenements with huge compulsory repair orders hanging over them?.
    I live over on the east coast.The only council properties that haven't been bought up are the dumps.You can spot them a mile away.Still some council properties amongst the estates thast have been bought up.99% rented by oap's who haven't given in to their offsprings 'i'll buy it for you and you can live rent free-as long as you leave it to me' demands.>:(

    Why so low? No idea. I love the place I moved into, aye it's a tenement. No huge repair bills at all. The areas lovely in my opinion though I've heard the phrase "multi cultural" used to describe it in a negative light. Coming from Cardiff I was like...and? We've lived along side one another no problem down there and it's the same up here. Maybe it's just the economy? I don't know it's just much much cheaper.
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    TeganRhan wrote: »
    Why so low? No idea. I love the place I moved into, aye it's a tenement. No huge repair bills at all. The areas lovely in my opinion though I've heard the phrase "multi cultural" used to describe it in a negative light. Coming from Cardiff I was like...and? We've lived along side one another no problem down there and it's the same up here. Maybe it's just the economy? I don't know it's just much much cheaper.

    As long as you're happy.And you aren't paying huge monthly payments on your mortgage.I look at the prices of places in England and just think 'WTF!'.1 bedroom flats for £100k etc.I'd sooner buy a caravan and be 'trailer park trash'.:p
    I actually think there's huge potential for building big (permanent) caravan parks in the UK.If only to make things more affordable for most people.
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    TeganRhanTeganRhan Posts: 2,947
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    U96 wrote: »
    As long as you're happy.And you aren't paying huge monthly payments on your mortgage.I look at the prices of places in England and just think 'WTF!'.1 bedroom flats for £100k etc.I'd sooner buy a caravan and be 'trailer park trash'.:p
    I actually think there's huge potential for building big (permanent) caravan parks in the UK.If only to make things more affordable for most people.

    I'm very happy and very lucky. I had enough to buy outright here. I could have brought for less if I went to auction (most go for around 25-30k but need a lot of work) but I paid 50k for a flat that had been brought at auction and done up to a high standard. A lot of the property's happening like that here, it's a great market if that's your business. I'd moved from a much much smaller horrible flat in Cardiff which I rented. To buy it would have costed me 95k. I did enquire when I came into the money. It's going the way of London prices with out the London wage.
    Plus Scotland's great! Everyone's lovely up here :) so yes, thankfully I'm very happy :) hope to see more of Scotland soon :D
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    TeganRhan wrote: »
    I'm very happy and very lucky. I had enough to buy outright here. I could have brought for less if I went to auction (most go for around 25-30k but need a lot of work) but I paid 50k for a flat that had been brought at auction and done up to a high standard. A lot of the property's happening like that here, it's a great market if that's your business. I'd moved from a much much smaller horrible flat in Cardiff which I rented. To buy it would have costed me 95k. I did enquire when I came into the money. It's going the way of London prices with out the London wage.
    Plus Scotland's great! Everyone's lovely up here :) so yes, thankfully I'm very happy :) hope to see more of Scotland soon :D

    Good on you.Everyones pretty friendly up here.Apart from me.:p
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    TakaeTakae Posts: 13,555
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    My grandparents were offered a five-storey Victorian townhouse at a similar discount after they refused to move to a new estate - in either Dagenham or Harlow - as part of the council's plan to demolish their homes across Homerton to make way for new developments.

    Edited:
    Wait, a housing association has nothing to do with council? As in, it's not a council estate?

    (I'm sorry for being so ignorant.)
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    2-Pot Screamer2-Pot Screamer Posts: 34,238
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    So why should HAs bother to build or buy properties if they can be sold from under them.
    Precisely!

    What incentive will there be for housing CHARITIES to build or otherwise acquire new properties which they may well be compelled to sell off at a massive discount, i.e. a loss?!
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    cobaye22cobaye22 Posts: 1,376
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    Precisely!

    What incentive will there be for housing CHARITIES to build or otherwise acquire new properties which they may well be compelled to sell off at a massive discount, i.e. a loss?!

    It's all pie in the sky at the moment. 1.3 million houses, 70% discounts - I don't believe a word of it. A large proportion of these HA tenants are in no position to buy.
    I suspect the actual discounts and the number of properties will decrease drastically as the government tries to drag this into legislation.
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    droogiefretdroogiefret Posts: 24,117
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    And who will set the price for these houses? The body who will have to stump up the 70%?

    I always thought housing associations did good work - am I right in thinking they originally grew out of the squatters movement?

    Well, at any rate, housing associations have always been seen as left wing and socially motivated - so an obvious target for a government that, essentially, does not support the idea of social housing in the first place.

    They're a rotten lot - someone must like their policies I suppose - God knows who.
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    shoestring25shoestring25 Posts: 4,715
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    Why is it so low?.

    probably because house prices are so high they couldn't sell them because mortgage payments would be more than rent
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    HeartacheHeartache Posts: 4,299
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    It would be lovely for those who have houses, but it's buyer beware for people enticed into buying their flats.

    I know of woman who bought her maisonette in a block of flats, was presented with a £20,000 bill when the council decided that the windows and doors needed replacing, clearly the home owners were expected to subsidise the work carried out for the remaining tenants. You were not allowed to source your own repairs.

    There was another block of flats, where the owners were presented with a bill of £45,000, to help pay towards new roofs etc, which were neglected by the council over the years.

    They may get a nice discount, but they will be paying all the little extra suprises for ever.
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    Welsh-ladWelsh-lad Posts: 51,925
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    I very much hope the HAs won't take this lying down.

    What we are talking about here is a government forcibly stripping charities of their assets.
    It's like something out of a Stalinist state.

    I'd be flabbergasted if I didn't know this was a Tory policy, so it isn't suprising, though just as disgusting.
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    donovan5donovan5 Posts: 1,023
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    What's the legal position on this?it seems very strange that the Government would be able to force sell these assets but I haven't heard of any possible legal challenges yet.
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    tealadytealady Posts: 26,266
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    donovan5 wrote: »
    What's the legal position on this?it seems very strange that the Government would be able to force sell these assets but I haven't heard of any possible legal challenges yet.
    Both Councils and HAs will be challenging it due to the effects on both of them.
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