Why did Simon not ORDER Cheryl to put Gamu through to live shows...

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• kochspostulates Posts: 3,067

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  13/12/10 - 13:08 #2

  She didn't hold a valid working visa and they couldn't have paid her as an employee?

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  13/12/10 - 13:09 #3

  Probably because he and the producers became aware of her sticky legal situation regarding her immigration status.
  
  It amazes me how fans still fail to understand that her immigration problem meant that they HAD to rule her out. They had no idea if she could have been deported in the middle of the show or not.

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• [Deleted User] Posts: 6,667

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  13/12/10 - 13:09 #4

  I imagine that would conflict with the part where he ordered her not to.
  
  (seriously, I think she was told not to because of the visa issues, and otherwise she would have been a shoo-in for the wildcard at least, just going by auditions/bootcamp coverage.)

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• [Deleted User] Posts: 758

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  13/12/10 - 13:10 #5

  kochspostulates wrote: »

  She didn't hold a valid working visa and they couldn't have paid her as an employee?

  
  But if this is the real reason Cheryl did not put her through, why did the X Factor team not simply say this at the time when Cheryl was being called racist etc??

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  13/12/10 - 13:12 #6

  FernandoM wrote: »

  But if this is the real reason Cheryl did not put her through, why did the X Factor team not simply say this at the time when Cheryl was being called racist etc??

  
  I would guess that they want to keep up the illusion of the mentors choosing their own acts, rather than admitting that the choice had been made for her. I think Cheryl was actually thrown under a bus with that, but I guess it's what comes with being an XF judge.

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• iain Posts: 63,929

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  13/12/10 - 13:15 #7

  FernandoM wrote: »

  considering both he and Nicole thought that Gamu could win?!

  
  um, because it was up to Cheryl, not Simon.
  
  get_over_it for goodness sake.
  
  Iain

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• dagger42 Posts: 295

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  13/12/10 - 13:17 #8

  Simon decides who goes through anyway all the groups are his. Who will make most money out of Matt's win Simon or Danni

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  13/12/10 - 13:18 #9

  anactoria wrote: »

  I would guess that they want to keep up the illusion of the mentors choosing their own acts, rather than admitting that the choice had been made for her. I think Cheryl was actually thrown under a bus with that, but I guess it's what comes with being an XF judge.

  
  
  But this wasn't just an instruction from the X Factor Team. It was an order from Immigration that Gamu did not have the right to legally work.
  
  I think that they would have been better to simply say this at the time of all the flying racism accusations.

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• BrokenArrow Posts: 21,665

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  13/12/10 - 13:19 #10

  She was not eligible to appear on the show in the first place.
  
  She should never have been put through to the judges house.
  
  I think they realised that and rectified their mistake.

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  13/12/10 - 13:21 #11

  FernandoM wrote: »

  But this wasn't just an instruction from the X Factor Team. It was an order from Immigration that Gamu did not have the right to legally work.
  
  I think that they would have been better to simply say this at the time of all the flying racism accusations.

  
  Yeah, but admitting it would have insinuated that Katie & Cher weren't put through entirely on merit. I mean, I agree that they should probably have come out & said it, but I can see why they didn't.

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  13/12/10 - 13:22 #12

  BrokenArrow wrote: »

  She was not eligible to appear on the show in the first place.
  
  She should never have been put through to the judges house.
  
  I think they realised that and rectified their mistake.

  
  I agree with the above but why did they not just say Gamu did not have the required legal papers etc? Some of the racism accusations towards Cheryl were becoming quite nasty - it went beyond a joke.
  
  I guess they'll know that in future they need to check people's immigration status from the outset!

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• [Deleted User] Posts: 162

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  13/12/10 - 13:59 #13

  I still think they had planned to bring her in as a Wildcard. They would have got all the publicity from those outraged that she didn't get through then brought her back. But then her visa problems became apparent and they didn't want to take the risk of her being deported in the middle of the series.

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• UnrealityTV Posts: 1,399

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  13/12/10 - 14:06 #14

  Go gettem, you flog that dead horse, OP! :yawn:

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• [Deleted User] Posts: 6,345

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  13/12/10 - 14:24 #15

  She was never going to win anyway.

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