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BT now offering 300mb Infinity

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    de525made525ma Posts: 874
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    They have been for a while - but only if you are in a direct fibre (FTTP) area.
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    c4rvc4rv Posts: 29,619
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    Just noticed, I was looking at what BT offers in my area. Currently on VM cable. No issues with them but my work are willing to subsidise a BT connection.
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    de525made525ma Posts: 874
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    BT FTTP is better than VM Cable, as it doesn't traffic manage nearly as aggressively.
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    MadsocksMadsocks Posts: 3,374
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    Jesus wept. I can't even get 38mb BT Infinity and now they are rolling out 300mb Infinity? BT really p*** me off!
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    Steve™Steve™ Posts: 7,286
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    Great news for all those Torrent users and home hosts.

    Meanwhile in the real world.....
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    de525made525ma Posts: 874
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    Madsocks wrote: »
    Jesus wept. I can't even get 38mb BT Infinity and now they are rolling out 300mb Infinity? BT really p*** me off!

    Yeah they are rolling out FTTP in a few areas in the UK - Penzance for example. Usually where they have been given some incentive (eg BDUK funding) to do so.

    Are you in a non-infinity area, or are you one of the poor souls who are directly cabled to the exchange?
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    IcaraaIcaraa Posts: 6,068
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    I read recently that Openreach FTTP on new builds will start to be more common from now on. So that's a good thing.
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    de525ma wrote: »
    Yeah they are rolling out FTTP in a few areas in the UK - Penzance for example. Usually where they have been given some incentive (eg BDUK funding) to do so.

    Are you in a non-infinity area, or are you one of the poor souls who are directly cabled to the exchange?

    The coverage is extremely spotty. Penzance almost certainly won't have more than one or two streets with it.

    I live in a village In Cornwall which is listed as "FTTC / P", the FTTP coverage in reality is a single road, maybe 20 houses. I don't know why, the design of the network is the same as the rest of the village and it isn't a new build estate. The nearby town is the same. I have been in a third town in Cornwall where half of the road has FTTP and then it inexplicably stops and is replaced with FTTC.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,270
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    c4rv wrote: »

    It's not on their main broadband packages page though. This will only be offered to the few areas that are lucky enough to have access to FTTP. What's in your link has been there for weeks now. I thought that BT were starting to get to work on installing FTTP across Britain from the title of this thread.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,270
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    de525ma wrote: »
    BT FTTP is better than VM Cable, as it doesn't traffic manage nearly as aggressively.

    They haven't bothered about my heavy downloading. Saying this though, I highly doubt I'll get anywhere near the 800GBs mark that some are claiming to have downloaded in a month. I might get to about the 400-500GBs mark on a really heavy download month.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,270
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    Madsocks wrote: »
    Jesus wept. I can't even get 38mb BT Infinity and now they are rolling out 300mb Infinity? BT really p*** me off!
    I don't think BT have finished rolling out fibre. I might be wrong on that though.
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    OMTTOMTT Posts: 5,459
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    Will speeds like this ever be possible with FTTC?
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    homer2012homer2012 Posts: 5,216
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    Cant wait my area is finally been done this year and its fttp :)
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    homer2012 wrote: »
    Cant wait my area is finally been done this year and its fttp :)

    Do you have confirmation that BT have said that your street will be FTTP? (preferably someone from Openreach, not someone from BT retail as they'll just lie like any other big internet provider)

    They might say that the exchange is "FTTP" but that's been proven to mean nothing, they'll do one street, give everyone else fibre to the cabinet and the list will say "FTTP" or "FTTC/P".

    You might get very lucky but I'd be prepared to be disappointed.
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    homer2012homer2012 Posts: 5,216
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    moox wrote: »
    Do you have confirmation that BT have said that your street will be FTTP? (preferably someone from Openreach, not someone from BT retail as they'll just lie like any other big internet provider)

    They might say that the exchange is "FTTP" but that's been proven to mean nothing, they'll do one street, give everyone else fibre to the cabinet and the list will say "FTTP" or "FTTC/P".

    You might get very lucky but I'd be prepared to be disappointed.

    Yeah open reach guys working on our new estate :) been waiting so long. Now just a new router instead of bts rubbish.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,270
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    OMTT wrote: »
    Will speeds like this ever be possible with FTTC?
    I'm guessing that once the FTTC speeds are close to the 300Mbits mark, BT might switch people on FTTC to FTTP. 300Mbits might be when people on FTTC get put on FTTP.
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    IcaraaIcaraa Posts: 6,068
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    zx50 wrote: »
    I'm guessing that once the FTTC speeds are close to the 300Mbits mark, BT might switch people on FTTC to FTTP. 300Mbits might be when people on FTTC get put on FTTP.

    There's no way the current technology can do 300Mb using FTTC. Maybe Fibre to the Distribution Point but not FTTC.
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    Aye UpAye Up Posts: 7,053
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    Icaraa wrote: »
    There's no way the current technology can do 300Mb using FTTC. Maybe Fibre to the Distribution Point but not FTTC.

    Really? Vectoring and a new developing standard G.Fast beg to differ on that one.....

    http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/07/future-1gbps-fttc-broadband-g-fast-technology-passes-first-stage-approval.html
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,530
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    Icaraa wrote: »
    There's no way the current technology can do 300Mb using FTTC. Maybe Fibre to the Distribution Point but not FTTC.

    True, not at the moment, but my FTTC upload speeds are better than ever these days, have just uploaded a 1 Gbyte video file to Youtube at an average 19.2Mbps (it always used to be about 17). I don't think FTTP as currently offered is going to better that, at least not on most FTTP packages and VM comes nowhere near.
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    Aye Up wrote: »
    Really? Vectoring and a new developing standard G.Fast beg to differ on that one.....

    http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/07/future-1gbps-fttc-broadband-g-fast-technology-passes-first-stage-approval.html

    G.fast requires yet more equipment on the street, e.g. at poles. If BT decides to go down that route they really need their head examined, if they're going to run fibre to or near every pole, why on earth would they then plop some expensive mini-DSLAM on the top and still use crappy copper when they could finish the job for good and do the final stretch as fibre too?
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    countyboycountyboy Posts: 1,486
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    Not much use to me, which is a shame as I would like to see competition for Virgin here. I live in the suburbs of a city of 125,000, and the BT checker tells me I'd get only 8Mbs if I switched to them from Virgin. So no sign of Infinity here, and I will stay with what is an excellent Virgin broadband service now giving 50Mbs.....but Virgin do need competition.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,270
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    Icaraa wrote: »
    There's no way the current technology can do 300Mb using FTTC. Maybe Fibre to the Distribution Point but not FTTC.

    And what proof do you have for that statement?
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,270
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    d'@ve wrote: »
    True, not at the moment, but my FTTC upload speeds are better than ever these days, have just uploaded a 1 Gbyte video file to Youtube at an average 19.2Mbps (it always used to be about 17). I don't think FTTP as currently offered is going to better that, at least not on most FTTP packages and VM comes nowhere near.

    From what I've read, FTTP from BT offers an upload speed of 30Mbits.
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    de525made525ma Posts: 874
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    zx50 wrote: »
    From what I've read, FTTP from BT offers an upload speed of 30Mbits.

    I'll check when I'm down in PZ again, the house there has FTTP.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,270
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    de525ma wrote: »
    I'll check when I'm down in PZ again, the house there has FTTP.

    Well, it does say 'up to' 30Mbits upload in the link below. I can't understand why there should be an 'up to' with a pure fibre connection. Unless the sending speed depends on how fast your hardware is.

    https://www.btwholesale.com/pages/static/Products/Broadband/Fibre_to_the_Premises/index.htm
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