Wow, another great episode. This show really knows how to give just enough info to make you feel you know what is happening, without being a tease like so many shows have been lately, yes I mean you Alcatraz, Lost etc.
I just new that name would be on the paper but was still shocked.
This show really does keep you guessing if the main characters will last the season or not.
Another excellent episode. It also opens up another interesting plot arc. I was surprised Kara was killed off (certainly no way of her getting out of that one, right?). I thought they'd drag her character out a bit more. But now we've got another secretive organisation involved.
Reese and Finch try to save a hotel maid's life, but the number of suspects proves to be overwhelming. Meanwhile, Carter gets an offer to join the FBI.
Really enjoyed that one - and what's with Carters boyfriend?
Having had her turn up, I was surprised they didn't give Zoe more to do with the mission, though the implication at the end that she and John were going to spend the night together was quite significant I suppose...
Really enjoyed that one - and what's with Carters boyfriend?
If the FBI have suspicions, that makes me think he might be involved with HR, unless it's a double-bluff, and he's an undercover FBI agent trying to infiltrate HR and he's asked the FBI to keep Carter out of danger...?
I remain impressed at how many B-plots the show now has running in the background at any one time, the ones I can think of from memory are:
The (government) organisation that has the hitman chasing Reece (now with added Root!)
Elias
HR
The organisation that saved Kara
Julian Sands' character's organisation (if not the same as above)
The origins of The Machine & Finch's girlfriend/fiance
Having had her turn up, I was surprised they didn't give Zoe more to do with the mission, though the implication at the end that she and John were going to spend the night together was quite significant I suppose...
If the FBI have suspicions, that makes me think he might be involved with HR, unless it's a double-bluff, and he's an undercover FBI agent trying to infiltrate HR and he's asked the FBI to keep Carter out of danger...?
I remain impressed at how many B-plots the show now has running in the background at any one time, the ones I can think of from memory are:
The (government) organisation that has the hitman chasing Reece (now with added Root!)
Elias
HR
The organisation that saved Kara
Julian Sands' character's organisation (if not the same as above)
The origins of The Machine & Finch's girlfriend/fiance
Any more?
The fact that Root is now back in the equation is also a new development.
Well, that was one of the best episodes of the season so far, although it has been a strong season anyway. I was glad to see Leon again, albeit temporarily and hopefully we see more of Shaw. Not only was her character interesting, but she is very nice to look at.
I was checking the ratings out and the season 2 premiere garnered 3 million more viewers and this season has had better ratings than season 1. That's quite a rare thing for a show.
They certainly don't mind mixing it up - is this the first time we've had a number from the other side?
Yeah, all the numbers thus far have gone to Finch.
This episode was directed by Jonathan Nolan as well, so story progression being the forefront is no surprise. I always wondered how the "terrorist threat" numbers were dealt with, seeing how was great. Although it's obvious they corrupt it to their own needs as well.
Good episode. Wondered what was going on at first until they mentioned the number, then it dawned on me! You've really got to keep your eye on the ball with this programme there's so much going on.
I think Reese must get a good discount on Kevlar vests too.
I don't understand why "Research" uses numbers too. The only reason Finch uses numbers is to send as little information as possible to not attract attention. Research doesn't have the same restrictions.
I don't understand why "Research" uses numbers too. The only reason Finch uses numbers is to send as little information as possible to not attract attention. Research doesn't have the same restrictions.
I was thinking the same. Perhaps Research isn't officially with the programme after all and gets it's numbers the same way "our" guys get them.
This episode showed that the Machine can be manipulated to spew out wrong numbers by feeding it false information. Maybe the people who are able to do that, are also able to get numbers for their own dubious ends.
Anyway, this show is going from strength to strength, although the last episodes were a bit light on Carter. We -royal plural- need more Carter.
I don't understand why "Research" uses numbers too. The only reason Finch uses numbers is to send as little information as possible to not attract attention. Research doesn't have the same restrictions.
Given that it's a covert and illegal surveillance and assassination programme, I think that they would also need to not attract any attention
Also, Finch implied that there is no "Research". There is only the Machine. The Machine dishes out numbers, and the shadowy government people tell their operatives that the numbers come from "Research".
IIRC we have seen previously that *all* the Machine gives out to anyone, not just to Finch, is a number (I'm sure it's been mentioned in flashbacks that the Machine only dishes out numbers, some of threats and some "irrelevant"). The shadowy government people get numbers related to threats, while Finch gets the "irrelevant" numbers.
I was thinking the same. Perhaps Research isn't officially with the programme after all and gets it's numbers the same way "our" guys get them. This episode showed that the Machine can be manipulated to spew out wrong numbers by feeding it false information. Maybe the people who are able to do that, are also able to get numbers for their own dubious ends.
Anyway, this show is going from strength to strength, although the last episodes were a bit light on Carter. We -royal plural- need more Carter.
I don't think that it showed that at all. The Machine is never wrong, as mentioned.
Finch gets his numbers directly from the Machine, via the phonecalls.
Shaw got at least one of her numbers from her handler, as shown on screen...They would not need to trick the Machine into dishing out the wrong number, all they had to do was give the wrong number to Shaw themselves - no need to use the Machine. She would simply assume that the number they gave her came from Research, and was therefore valid.
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I just new that name would be on the paper but was still shocked.
This show really does keep you guessing if the main characters will last the season or not.
Well I don't know if you noticed, but in the CCTV footage at the end, there was a slight waver in the film just before the bomb went off.
I assume (due to the English accent, so a very tenuous assumption) it's the same organisation that Julian Sands belongs to.
Really enjoyed that one - and what's with Carters boyfriend?
I remain impressed at how many B-plots the show now has running in the background at any one time, the ones I can think of from memory are:
- The (government) organisation that has the hitman chasing Reece (now with added Root!)
- Elias
- HR
- The organisation that saved Kara
- Julian Sands' character's organisation (if not the same as above)
- The origins of The Machine & Finch's girlfriend/fiance
Any more?The fact that Root is now back in the equation is also a new development.
:eek::eek::eek:I thought she was killed in the car explosion??
They meant when she was saved in China after the missile attack on her and John's location.
There was definitely a glitch in the CCTV footage of the car bomb, just before it went off.
It could have been EM interference from the bomb but it also looked like a cut in the video feed.
I was checking the ratings out and the season 2 premiere garnered 3 million more viewers and this season has had better ratings than season 1. That's quite a rare thing for a show.
They certainly don't mind mixing it up - is this the first time we've had a number from the other side?
Yeah, all the numbers thus far have gone to Finch.
This episode was directed by Jonathan Nolan as well, so story progression being the forefront is no surprise. I always wondered how the "terrorist threat" numbers were dealt with, seeing how was great. Although it's obvious they corrupt it to their own needs as well.
This series has really grown on me. I liked it from the beginning, but I love the way it has developed, the way the arc has grown.
I think Reese must get a good discount on Kevlar vests too.
Good job she didn't shoot him in the head!
I was thinking the same. Perhaps Research isn't officially with the programme after all and gets it's numbers the same way "our" guys get them.
This episode showed that the Machine can be manipulated to spew out wrong numbers by feeding it false information. Maybe the people who are able to do that, are also able to get numbers for their own dubious ends.
Anyway, this show is going from strength to strength, although the last episodes were a bit light on Carter. We -royal plural- need more Carter.
Given that it's a covert and illegal surveillance and assassination programme, I think that they would also need to not attract any attention
Also, Finch implied that there is no "Research". There is only the Machine. The Machine dishes out numbers, and the shadowy government people tell their operatives that the numbers come from "Research".
IIRC we have seen previously that *all* the Machine gives out to anyone, not just to Finch, is a number (I'm sure it's been mentioned in flashbacks that the Machine only dishes out numbers, some of threats and some "irrelevant"). The shadowy government people get numbers related to threats, while Finch gets the "irrelevant" numbers.
I don't think that it showed that at all. The Machine is never wrong, as mentioned.
Finch gets his numbers directly from the Machine, via the phonecalls.
Shaw got at least one of her numbers from her handler, as shown on screen...They would not need to trick the Machine into dishing out the wrong number, all they had to do was give the wrong number to Shaw themselves - no need to use the Machine. She would simply assume that the number they gave her came from Research, and was therefore valid.