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  • LorenzoUKLorenzoUK Posts: 659
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    will do. cheers.
  • Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,239
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    henm2 wrote: »
    Another good guide to dual booting windows and linux based systems is the following

    http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/dual-boot-windows-7-ubuntu.html

    Also you do not need any anti virus software for linux.

    I sometimes download the odd TV show torrent :p, but didn't know if that was any safer from viruses on Linux. Anyway, it's all up and running smoothy now and it seems to be a lot faster than Vista. Although, I'm finding it a bit of a pain when it keeps asking for my password before I run programs, but I think that will die down when I have everything installed.

    Thanks for all the help, btw. An helpful thread to keep looking into.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    Well, through no fault of its own other than I had a spare weekend with nothing to do, I decided to ditch Ubuntu and re-install Linux mint 15 Cinnamon. Just got itchy feet I suppose, as Ubuntu was running absolutely fine.

    Distro hoppers eh...? :D
  • 1saintly1saintly Posts: 4,197
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    Kal_El wrote: »
    Well, through no fault of its own other than I had a spare weekend with nothing to do, I decided to ditch Ubuntu and re-install Linux mint 15 Cinnamon. Just got itchy feet I suppose, as Ubuntu was running absolutely fine.

    Distro hoppers eh...? :D

    Well, im not quite there yet, give it another week or two.
    But i may have been converted to KDE. Well i have always liked the look of it, but it was always overkill, plasma this widget that, seems every icon has a sub menu etc etc.

    Now my beloved Xfce, is still sound, but looks dated, no matter what i do to it :D

    Dont like Unity/Gnome, well not till they sort out those pointless workspaces/desktops.

    Mint is great, but still seems any version of it doesnt like my hardware :(

    So a few weeks ago i loaded
    http://www.netrunner-os.com/

    http://www.netrunner-os.com/features/

    Mint users may spot some relevance
    http://www.netrunner-os.com/about/

    Its what i call a clean KDE and so far so good :) as i say, give it a bit more time and my beloved Xfce will be deleted :eek: Been using it for a couple of years, so cant be accused of being a Distro hopper :D
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    I'm also running KDE on another partition with openSUSE, and I really love it. But...it certainly likes to mess about with you sometimes. I think KDE is awesome but it needs some attention from developers that are interested in user experiences and not developer ones. It's not as polished an experience at the user edges as I'd like. That said, Netrunner seems to be adding this themselves.

    Tried out Elementary OS Luna the other day. Just live, but very nice. Seems light and easy. Might stick it on my mum's old PC. :)
  • 1saintly1saintly Posts: 4,197
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    Had a go at this
    http://www.kwheezy.com/en/
    Nice concept, and worked fine.

    But at nearly 4gb download :eek:
    The default install is overkill with way too many programs installed. I tried to delete them, but it was taking ages.

    Sorry im not a Suse fan or Fedora fan, yuck :)

    Do wish those Unity/Gnome destops/workspaces would work indepenent of each other, that may get me to use it.

    But for a while it looks like its Netrunner, or the next version of MInt starts to play nice with my hardware.
  • emptyboxemptybox Posts: 13,917
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    Kal_El wrote: »
    Tried out Elementary OS Luna the other day. Just live, but very nice. Seems light and easy. Might stick it on my mum's old PC. :)

    I'm trying that on one of my partitions, after someone mentioned it on here.
    As you say the UI is beautiful and simple.
    A bit like a simplified gnome-shell, with everything on the one screen.
    It's got Ubuntu 12.04 at the base of it.

    It did require a bit more setting up than Ubuntu or Mint. For instance, although I ticked the box at installation to install the extra codecs, I still had to install ubuntu-restricted-extras to play music.

    There aren't many configuration options out of the box, but you can install Elementary Tweaks to give you more.

    I really like it, and quite like that they've gone their own way with custom apps for playing music and email client etc.
    But there's nothing to stop you installing all your favourite apps instead.

    There's still a couple of bugs.
    I connect via wifi, and there's nothing plugged into the ethernet port, but it insists on trying to connect that on every boot up (as well as the wifi), and the icon on the taskbar keeps spinning until I right click on it and disconnect the wired network. (I might be able to do something about that in the settings?)
    Also the file manager pantheon-files is a bit flaky.
  • mpmc17mpmc17 Posts: 2,434
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    I've been using Crunchbang on my htpc and it works great!
  • TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    Linux fan here. I have done a fair bit of Distro hopping from Ubuntu to Opensuse to Fedora to Mint to Elementary, but I keep coming back to Xubuntu. It is just nice and simple and stable and does what I need/want it to do. Can't seem to kick the habit.
  • 1saintly1saintly Posts: 4,197
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    Linux fan here. I have done a fair bit of Distro hopping from Ubuntu to Opensuse to Fedora to Mint to Elementary, but I keep coming back to Xubuntu. It is just nice and simple and stable and does what I need/want it to do. Can't seem to kick the habit.


    Im a member of that club as well :D

    Been using Xubuntu for a few yrs as my main OS, whilst dabling with nother Distros.

    But do feel like
    http://www.netrunner-os.com/

    Will finally lead me away, just feel its time for a change, nothing wrong with Xubuntu.
    Well apart from the slow introduction of the whisper menu, :eek:
    and it looks a bit dated once ive used KDE.

    PS ive not deleted Xubuntu yet! :)
  • TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    I must say, Netrunner is one I have not tried. I might just stick it on a USB and give it a whirl :D
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    1saintly wrote: »
    Sorry im not a Suse fan or Fedora fan, yuck :)

    Actually I can relate to this to some degree. Fedora I don't like very much. My favourite stuff would have to be compiled in order to use it as they're just not available on Fedora. OpenSUSE though has been fine, especially for the missus. She's had it running on her laptop since its release and it has been the best one she's used. Their build service has a ton of available software, but a great deal of stuff is in their PackMan repo.

    The only downside, as you've said on here before, is setting it up. Between YasT and the KDE settings it doesn't make it easy, and why oh why does KDE feel the need to bork your audio for no reason? I remember having a right old job setting that up. And no, you can't blame Pulseaudio anymore. :p It's bloody Phonon.

    Nice to be back on Mint. Had a couple of glitches after the fresh install, but once the Nvidia driver was installed it calmed down. Lovely. Feels like home. :)
  • redtuxredtux Posts: 1,241
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    Kal_El wrote: »
    Actually I can relate to this to some degree. Fedora I don't like very much. My favourite stuff would have to be compiled in order to use it as they're just not available on Fedora. OpenSUSE though has been fine, especially for the missus. She's had it running on her laptop since its release and it has been the best one she's used. Their build service has a ton of available software, but a great deal of stuff is in their PackMan repo.

    The only downside, as you've said on here before, is setting it up. Between YasT and the KDE settings it doesn't make it easy, and why oh why does KDE feel the need to bork your audio for no reason? I remember having a right old job setting that up. And no, you can't blame Pulseaudio anymore. :p It's bloody Phonon.

    Nice to be back on Mint. Had a couple of glitches after the fresh install, but once the Nvidia driver was installed it calmed down. Lovely. Feels like home. :)

    As a long time fedora (and before that RH) user what software do you use that hasn't got packages?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    redtux wrote: »
    As a long time fedora (and before that RH) user what software do you use that hasn't got packages?

    Sorry, just spotted your post. It's a bit late but off the top of my head I cannot use Handbrake without having to compile it as there is no package available for up to date Fedora editions. Also I like to use lots of different emulators that I seem to struggle to either find available on Fedora, or ones that actually works as they're supposed to. There's other examples too but I gotta get to bed. :D Post back tomorrow.
  • 1saintly1saintly Posts: 4,197
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    Does the likes of Fedora or OpenSuse come with codecs/flash pre installed.

    Its actually been a while since i tried them :o so may have to give them a new look into.

    Just seem to remember they are trailed as cutting edge, and yet could play iplayer by default.

    Still find that strange, seeing as most just pre load them nowadays?

    Yes i know its easy to install them, but if thats the case why bother leaving it out in the 1st place?

    Oh and the installer was rubbish, you had to manualy configure partitions :eek:
    Thats something else i dont get, a few distros still require you to that :eek:
  • archiverarchiver Posts: 13,011
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    Really needing a new OS (been using Win7 and it's awful). Tried NetRunner. Looks great and install went well, but couldn't update due to the update server not serving. Ended up with 8 broken packages... :rolleyes:

    Life.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    1saintly wrote: »
    Does the likes of Fedora or OpenSuse come with codecs/flash pre installed.

    Its actually been a while since i tried them :o so may have to give them a new look into.

    Just seem to remember they are trailed as cutting edge, and yet could play iplayer by default.

    Still find that strange, seeing as most just pre load them nowadays?

    Yes i know its easy to install them, but if thats the case why bother leaving it out in the 1st place?

    Oh and the installer was rubbish, you had to manualy configure partitions :eek:
    Thats something else i dont get, a few distros still require you to that :eek:

    With openSUSE you do have to add the codecs etc manually. It's not hard to do and the PackMan repo has the lot. For Fedora I haven't a clue, but some of the tutorials around suggest it's not hard there either really. They're left out for licensing reasons. I suppose Mint doesn't have that issue being a UK based distro. Laws for codecs are somewhat different for other countries. At the end of the day it's safer for many distros just to leave installing that stuff to the end user.

    Got to disagree on the openSUSE installer. I think it's possibly the best installer there is.
    archiver wrote: »
    Really needing a new OS (been using Win7 and it's awful). Tried NetRunner. Looks great and install went well, but couldn't update due to the update server not serving. Ended up with 8 broken packages... :rolleyes:

    Life.

    Let us know what you go with. I'm enjoying mint but it feels a bit broken next to Ubuntu to be honest. I've had the "The greeter application has crashed" thing a few times, and for some reason Cairo Dock just disappears at odd times. Otherwise it's good but it feels ready for an update now. Or some bug fixes. :D
  • archiverarchiver Posts: 13,011
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    Kal_El wrote: »
    Let us know what you go with. I'm enjoying mint but it feels a bit broken next to Ubuntu to be honest. I've had the "The greeter application has crashed" thing a few times, and for some reason Cairo Dock just disappears at odd times. Otherwise it's good but it feels ready for an update now. Or some bug fixes. :D
    Sold on the look (and the KDE/Blue Systems inside) of NetRunner, so I'll fix it when the (ubuntu) server is sorted. Shouldn't be a problem.

    Any good text editors with a clip library full of vBulletin tags (and smilies)?
  • 1saintly1saintly Posts: 4,197
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    Kal_El wrote: »
    With openSUSE you do have to add the codecs etc manually. It's not hard to do and the PackMan repo has the lot. For Fedora I haven't a clue, but some of the tutorials around suggest it's not hard there either really. They're left out for licensing reasons. I suppose Mint doesn't have that issue being a UK based distro. Laws for codecs are somewhat different for other countries. At the end of the day it's safer for many distros just to leave installing that stuff to the end user.

    Got to disagree on the openSUSE installer. I think it's possibly the best installer there is.



    Let us know what you go with. I'm enjoying mint but it feels a bit broken next to Ubuntu to be honest. I've had the "The greeter application has crashed" thing a few times, and for some reason Cairo Dock just disappears at odd times. Otherwise it's good but it feels ready for an update now. Or some bug fixes. :D

    Did say it had been a while since i had used them :D
    Was looking at it from as a new user to linux would, people would expect the basics to be already there.
    Think even Ubuntu left them out at some stage?

    Sorry to hear about issues with Mint, but realy :eek: you think it needs a update, hope thats not looks wise?
    archiver wrote: »
    Sold on the look (and the KDE/Blue Systems inside) of NetRunner, so I'll fix it when the (ubuntu) server is sorted. Shouldn't be a problem.

    Any good text editors with a clip library full of vBulletin tags (and smilies)?

    Hmm, strange ive not had any problems updating, using the Muon updater that comes as default with the install :confused:

    Do think being linked into Blue system, is a big bonus.
    http://www.netrunner-os.com/about/
    Ive found it to be a realy nice mix of bits of Distros i like, and so far stable :)
    Havent installed steam, yet.
  • KleistKleist Posts: 141
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    Let us know what you go with. I'm enjoying mint but it feels a bit broken next to Ubuntu to be honest. I've had the "The greeter application has crashed" thing a few times, and for some reason Cairo Dock just disappears at odd times. Otherwise it's good but it feels ready for an update now. Or some bug fixes. :D[/QUOTE]

    Control Centre > Login Window then change style to GTK instead of HTML
    That stops the "greeter" bug, I used to get it incessantly before making that change.
  • archiverarchiver Posts: 13,011
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    1saintly wrote: »
    Hmm, strange ive not had any problems updating, using the Muon updater that comes as default with the install :confused:

    Do think being linked into Blue system, is a big bonus.
    http://www.netrunner-os.com/about/
    Ive found it to be a realy nice mix of bits of Distros i like, and so far stable :)
    Havent installed steam, yet.
    I still prefer Synaptic, but I can't see how that preference could have been the cause.

    I've got huge potential and silent running with this PC. 6 Noctua fans with "Ultra Low Noise Adapters", most on magnetic rubber mounting, no spinny drives, silent PSU and TwinFrozer cooling on the GPU. It's so much better...

    7.6 - 7.7 - 7.9 - 7.2 on the Richmond scale

    The 7.2 is for a Vertex4 on sata 3. :confused:
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    Kleist wrote: »
    Control Centre > Login Window then change style to GTK instead of HTML
    That stops the "greeter" bug, I used to get it incessantly before making that change.

    Yes thanks for that. I spotted it in the Mint forums too. I've kept the HTML login around simply because it doesn't do it that often and it's so pretty. :D
    1saintly wrote: »
    Sorry to hear about issues with Mint, but realy :eek: you think it needs a update, hope thats not looks wise?

    Nah, I absolutely love Mint's looks, especially after I've added Cairo Dock. :)
  • 1saintly1saintly Posts: 4,197
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    Kal_El wrote: »

    Nah, I absolutely love Mint's looks, especially after I've added Cairo Dock. :)

    Oooh nice one :cool:
    Im less of gadget/widgetperson nowadays, desktop may seem blingy free for KDE but its how i like it :cool:
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    Kleist wrote: »
    Control Centre > Login Window then change style to GTK instead of HTML
    That stops the "greeter" bug, I used to get it incessantly before making that change.

    :) glad to know people are still reading this now very long thread, nice to see a new name.
    But just knowing people are still taking a intrest is :cool:
    Thread comes and goes in bursts, but should hopefully keep going :)
    The new log in screen is cool, if maybe a bit pointless to some people, but i love the animated ones :D
  • noise747noise747 Posts: 30,695
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    I installed Mint onto my SSd and do it make a difference. It flies, it makes Windows 8 look like a snail. Sadly I will have to put windows 8 back on and go back tot he old drive for Mint. I do have a idea, which is to dual boot Windows and mint on the SSD, put a couple of bits of software for windows on the SSd and then use my 500Gb seagate Hybrid for the rest.

    The problem is to do that I have to do a complete install of windows from scratch.

    The other way is to buy another SSD at some point.
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