ITV proving themselves worthless again

Corabal · 06/12/13 - 04:23

BBC1 - Cut off their showing of Question Time for coverage about Mandela's death.

ITV - Stick with airing a repeat of The Jonathan Ross Show.

steveh31 · 06/12/13 - 04:28

Corabal wrote: »

BBC1 - Cut off their showing of Question Time for coverage about Mandela's death.

ITV - Stick with airing a repeat of The Jonathan Ross Show.

They did an hour and 10 mins of news how much do you want?

Nosedive · 06/12/13 - 04:29

Not totally true. ITV spent most of the ten o'clock news hour focussing on it.

northlad · 06/12/13 - 04:40

Corabal wrote: »

BBC1 - Cut off their showing of Question Time for coverage about Mandela's death.

ITV - Stick with airing a repeat of The Jonathan Ross Show.

Rubbish,News at ten was extended to 11.10, the coverage was brilliant, did you watch?

Amaretto2 · 06/12/13 - 04:48

ITV were more rational. BBC have had nothing but blanket Mandela coverage for hours on BBC1, 2 and their news channel and none of it very good.

Corabal · 06/12/13 - 04:53

And they're showing a repeat of a meaningless chat show, BBC are cutting off an important current affairs and issues programme.

northlad · 06/12/13 - 04:58

Corabal wrote: »

And they're showing a repeat of a meaningless chat show, BBC are cutting off an important current affairs and issues programme.

ITV gave full coverage to the story,it is now on three BBC channels what would the point be to have it on 4 major channels at once.

Jimmy Connors · 06/12/13 - 05:02

Corabal wrote: »

And they're showing a repeat of a meaningless chat show, BBC are cutting off an important current affairs and issues programme.

Isn't QT on BBC2 now?

djleekee · 06/12/13 - 05:06

I think the issue to highlight here is that the BBC is running a 24 hour news channel and should be used to filling many hours of airtime with short notice.

Whereas ITV were preparing a 25 minute News at Ten bulletin and with only 10-15 minutes notice turned around a 1hr 10 minute news bulletin.

I think that's rather impressive and goes to show how much is already 'on the shelf' for events liek this but how resourceful ITV news was when they need to be,

red16v · 06/12/13 - 05:13

djleekee wrote: »

I think the issue to highlight here is that the BBC is running a 24 hour news channel and should be used to filling many hours of airtime with short notice.

Whereas ITV were preparing a 25 minute News at Ten bulletin and with only 10-15 minutes notice turned around a 1hr 10 minute news bulletin.

I think that's rather impressive and goes to show how much is already 'on the shelf' for events liek this but how resourceful ITV news was when they need to be,

Hear, hear.

noelfirl · 06/12/13 - 05:15

djleekee wrote: »

I think that's rather impressive and goes to show how much is already 'on the shelf' for events liek this but how resourceful ITV news was when they need to be,

I'm pretty sure every broadcaster worldwide will have had at least an hour and 10 minutes worth of stuff ready on the Mandela shelf, as well as a list of talking heads ready to refer to to fill further. Hardly worthy of singling them out for that.

square_eyes · 06/12/13 - 05:15

Yeh, good coverage of the story tonight. After an hour focussing on the story what more is there to be said at this time ? It's a network bulletin not a rolling news channel.

Keviness · 06/12/13 - 05:28

He wasn't all THAT important to be honest, not like it was the Queen. Lets be realistic.

John Dough · 06/12/13 - 05:32

BBC1 and BBC2 were covering the same story as was BBC News.
I think the BBC has seriously overdone the coverage with this hardly unexpected news, perhaps they just wanted to show the tributes that have been sat on the shelf for several years.:s

Gazza1982 · 06/12/13 - 05:42

John Dough wrote: »

BBC1 and BBC2 were covering the same story as was BBC News.
I think the BBC has seriously overdone the coverage with this hardly unexpected news, perhaps they just wanted to show the tributes that have been sat on the shelf for several years.:s

I do agree that the BBC have probably gone overboard with their coverage, however ITV i feel didn't go far enough.

[Deleted User] · 06/12/13 - 06:18

Does anyone know if Channel 4 did a special broadcast or news bulletin tonight?

waz101 · 06/12/13 - 06:28

A much more measured and dignified response to the death of a greatly respected leader who died in ill health at 95. The BBC response seems hysterical...

waz101 · 06/12/13 - 06:31

Keviness wrote: »

He wasn't all THAT important to be honest, not like it was the Queen. Lets be realistic.

He was very important if you are in the generation that was around whilst he was still in Robin Island and after his release. The BBC have just gone over the top - I'd doubt The Queen would get this much coverage, simulcast on two channels!

Rich Tea. · 06/12/13 - 07:17

BBC News is currently showing a few people jigging about in the street in Soweto and describing them as "remarkable scenes". Get a sense of perspective and sensible comment please.

popeye13 · 06/12/13 - 07:20

Was the BBC coverage on both BBC 1 & BBC 2 at the same time?

Rich Tea. · 06/12/13 - 07:25

popeye13 wrote: »

Was the BBC coverage on both BBC 1 & BBC 2 at the same time?

It appears to be. Rather makes a mockery of having a dedicated BBC 24 hour news channel when they continue to multicast the same broadcast across 2 networks at the same time for many hours on end like this.

popeye13 · 06/12/13 - 07:28

Rich Tea. wrote: »

It appears to be. Rather makes a mockery of having a dedicated BBC 24 hour news channel when they continue to multicast the same broadcast across 2 networks at the same time for many hours on end like this.

If they did, i hope they get shitcanned for it.
I can understand news of this magnitude being simulcast from BBC News 24 on BBC One OR BBC Two but on both is just downright braindead.

d'@ve · 06/12/13 - 09:28

popeye13 wrote: »

If they did, i hope they get shitcanned for it.
I can understand news of this magnitude being simulcast from BBC News 24 on BBC One OR BBC Two but on both is just downright braindead.

I agree. They all obviously had a contingency plan for what to do when Mandela's death was announced and immediately put that into action. But nobody seems to have thought about what to do if at the same time there was another developing important news event - and how best to balance the two lots of coverage then.

"Oh we'll cross that bridge if and when we come to it" seems to have been written into the BBC (and probably Sky) "contingency" plan. Problem is, the bridge was flooded and shut, due to an ongoing North Sea storm surge... and they missed the boat.

mikw · 06/12/13 - 12:46

It's massive news about a massive historical figure.

It leads the news all over the world too.

ftv · 06/12/13 - 13:34

Keviness wrote: »

He wasn't all THAT important to be honest, not like it was the Queen. Lets be realistic.

djleekee · 06/12/13 - 13:35

noelfirl wrote: »

I'm pretty sure every broadcaster worldwide will have had at least an hour and 10 minutes worth of stuff ready on the Mandela shelf, as well as a list of talking heads ready to refer to to fill further. Hardly worthy of singling them out for that.

Well if ITV did just fill with loads of pre-made 'off the shelf' items Id agree with you but I feel they made the most of resources by getting in reaction from around the Uk including The PM and Prince William (quick turnaround to get a camera to each location) and then did go live rather swiftly to Soweto and had numerous guests in the studio and on the phone.

I still go back to my original comment that for a non 24 hour news channel that ITV's coverage still impressed me but that's not to take anything away from the BBC or Sky coverage (which I'd expect to be of a very high standard and thorough standard)

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