As someone mentioned most places operate the challenge 25 policy annoying as it is! At the end of the day the people on the tills don't think up the policies even though some are ludicrous..however you'd still expect an employee to be polite, manners cost very little!
Not sure if this is still the exact case, but when I worked in retail a few years back if someone got caught selling restricted goods to a minor then there were 2 large fines issued - one for the company, and one for the individual who sold the item (which most people don't seem to realise). I for one do not fancy getting a fine and probably also losing my job for the sake of not upsetting some oversensitive idiot.
To me the most obvious solution to all this would be to take the same route as other countries and insist on ID as standard when buying alchahol. That way nobody is getting victimised or singled out. But of course all the do-gooders insist this is a breach of their human rights :rolleyes:.
Not sure if this is still the exact case, but when I worked in retail a few years back if someone got caught selling restricted goods to a minor then there were 2 large fines issued - one for the company, and one for the individual who sold the item (which most people don't seem to realise). I for one do not fancy getting a fine and probably also losing my job for the sake of not upsetting some oversensitive idiot.
To me the most obvious solution to all this would be to take the same route as other countries and insist on ID as standard when buying alchahol. That way nobody is getting victimised or singled out. But of course all the do-gooders insist this is a breach of their human rights :rolleyes:.
This has to be one of the single, most amusing critisism of human rights and 'do-gooders' I've ever read
I think it is quite understandable that someone who is quite obviously over the age of 25 will be a miffed if they are refused a sale of age restricted goods because they have no ID. That is because the current adopted English guidelines ( or law in at least Scotland ) only require employees/business to ask for ID if a person appears under 25 - NOT everyone in general.
So what that has to do with do-gooding, I've no idea
I suppose the thing about an expired Passport is that it could have been passed on to someone, stolen, or even taken out of a rubbish bin, and the picture may have replaced or altered.
Who, apart from a major criminal, would go to the trouble of altering the picture in a current Passport just to get some booze?
Not sure if this is still the exact case, but when I worked in retail a few years back if someone got caught selling restricted goods to a minor then there were 2 large fines issued - one for the company, and one for the individual who sold the item (which most people don't seem to realise). I for one do not fancy getting a fine and probably also losing my job for the sake of not upsetting some oversensitive idiot.
To me the most obvious solution to all this would be to take the same route as other countries and insist on ID as standard when buying alchahol. That way nobody is getting victimised or singled out. But of course all the do-gooders insist this is a breach of their human rights :rolleyes:.
Or they do know and don't give a monkey's because they're over 25.
Some of these are mad, ID'd at 40, I'd like to know where in the country youse live!
Since moving to London, I have not been ID'd once in the massive tesco I live beside or any other corner shop. I have however got ID'd every time I go to a club, but not pubs. I'm 21, its just weird, thinking there are 40 year olds getting ID'd and I'm getting on grand.
36, was 'ID'd' in one of those open all hours shops.
Doesn't bother me really, I guess some stores are so worried about undercover council bods, that they ingrain asking for ID into their staff so much it becomes an automatic thing.
A while back, was in the Local Morrissons doing the shopping, at the checkout the operator asked for confirmation that the wine I was buying wasn't for my daughter...
...only it wasn't my daughter with me but the OH she'd come with me without her make-up on (shes 28)
Slightly awkward moment all round when I pointed this out:o:D
confirmation in the form of what, a sworn affidavit?
Besides, in private, you can give your teenage daughter all the alcohol you like.
It's a bit of a weird one, apparently in the sale of alcohol act or whatever it's called, there is a clause regarding purchasing alcohol for minors.
It's down to intent in that you can't buy alcohol with the express intention of giving it to a minor, but if you give them some subsequently because they nag or whatever that is fine
There was a news story and a thread here a while back about some Tesco stores which were misinterpreting things and refusing to sell alcohol to people shopping there with their kids - it all got a bit silly (the story, not the thread:))
I'm approaching 40 and I've never been asked in the UK (I used to even get served at 16 without trouble) but I go to the US several times a year and still regularly get asked there. Many bars will have the policy of ID'ing everyone.
That's why I got asked for ID at Madison Square Garden a few years ago then... I thought it was a wind-up
Not really related, but got me thinking - if you're out on a night in town, and a girl asks you how old you are, does your answer depend on how old you think she looks, and how old you think she would like you to be? I'm guilty of that, and it never crosses my mind to actually respond with my real age
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"Have you got any ID?"
"No"
"Erm..." and proceeds to scan through my booze anyway.
To me the most obvious solution to all this would be to take the same route as other countries and insist on ID as standard when buying alchahol. That way nobody is getting victimised or singled out. But of course all the do-gooders insist this is a breach of their human rights :rolleyes:.
This has to be one of the single, most amusing critisism of human rights and 'do-gooders' I've ever read
I think it is quite understandable that someone who is quite obviously over the age of 25 will be a miffed if they are refused a sale of age restricted goods because they have no ID. That is because the current adopted English guidelines ( or law in at least Scotland ) only require employees/business to ask for ID if a person appears under 25 - NOT everyone in general.
So what that has to do with do-gooding, I've no idea
Who, apart from a major criminal, would go to the trouble of altering the picture in a current Passport just to get some booze?
Is it?
I thought it was still over 16 for ****?
Ive been over 16 for a while now so ive no idea!?
*Goes off to Google*
Or they do know and don't give a monkey's because they're over 25.
Well regardless I certainly dont look 17!!! I wish I did but I dont.
Since moving to London, I have not been ID'd once in the massive tesco I live beside or any other corner shop. I have however got ID'd every time I go to a club, but not pubs. I'm 21, its just weird, thinking there are 40 year olds getting ID'd and I'm getting on grand.
Doesn't bother me really, I guess some stores are so worried about undercover council bods, that they ingrain asking for ID into their staff so much it becomes an automatic thing.
A while back, was in the Local Morrissons doing the shopping, at the checkout the operator asked for confirmation that the wine I was buying wasn't for my daughter...
...only it wasn't my daughter with me but the OH she'd come with me without her make-up on (shes 28)
Slightly awkward moment all round when I pointed this out:o:D
You can't replace the photo.
It's sealed in behind a hologram.
Indeed, IIRC, the image isn't a photo, but a print of the photo.
confirmation in the form of what, a sworn affidavit?
Besides, in private, you can give your teenage daughter all the alcohol you like.
It's a bit of a weird one, apparently in the sale of alcohol act or whatever it's called, there is a clause regarding purchasing alcohol for minors.
It's down to intent in that you can't buy alcohol with the express intention of giving it to a minor, but if you give them some subsequently because they nag or whatever that is fine
There was a news story and a thread here a while back about some Tesco stores which were misinterpreting things and refusing to sell alcohol to people shopping there with their kids - it all got a bit silly (the story, not the thread:))
You can give a kid alcohol as long as they are over 5 at home!
I was assuming that misha06's wife at least looks like a teenager.
If she could be mistaken for someone under 13, it'd be a bit :eek:
She looks her age, sans make up less so, but certainly not teenage.
Whole incident was a bit random.
Starting to wish I hadn't said anything now:)
That's why I got asked for ID at Madison Square Garden a few years ago then... I thought it was a wind-up