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Who has done worse to whom? The West vs The Islamic World
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It's quite interesting the level of islamophobia around, however if you care to learn your history it seems we have done far far worse to islamic countries.
Ask yourself this:
Have Islamic armies ever turned up in the West, imposed themselves and drawn up new maps in our region?
Have they invaded Western nations based on lies causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people?
Have they installed/ backed/ armed brutal tyrannies that we've all had to live under?
Have they created brand new countries slap bang in the middle of our land and expected us to lump it?
If you care to learn the facts - the worst terror is often carried out by those in suits and not sporting beards.....
Ask yourself this:
Have Islamic armies ever turned up in the West, imposed themselves and drawn up new maps in our region?
Have they invaded Western nations based on lies causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people?
Have they installed/ backed/ armed brutal tyrannies that we've all had to live under?
Have they created brand new countries slap bang in the middle of our land and expected us to lump it?
If you care to learn the facts - the worst terror is often carried out by those in suits and not sporting beards.....
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Iraq was the only situation not backed by the UN (the world)
Ever checked out the Ottoman Empire - they were not above a certain amount of tyranny. The Turks also ruled Greece.
Simple fact here is that there have been atrocities on both sides. and for much of the last 1500 years.
Most people live in the here and now and respond to what happens to them in the here and now.
What is your point?
The Moors invaded Spain and were stopped by Charlemagne of getting further in the 8th century. The Ottomans got as far into Europe as Romania in the middle-ages. Various middle-Eastern countries raided European Countries including the English South Coast for slaves.
For about 1000 years, Islamic slave raiders ruled the Med - the last slave raids to Ireland and Cornwall were as recent as the late 17th century, and slave raiding continued from Algeria until the 1830s. All the fortified towns along the coasts of Spain and Italy were created to protect the population from muslim slave raiders.
As others say, the Ottoman Turks once ruled the whole of what is now Greece, Bulgaria, ex Yugoslavia and Romania. The whole empire was based on slavery, and the last public slave market in Istanbul only closed in 1912. Most the slaves sold there were white Christians.
Do they really need to. Some radicals think they can just migrate to another country and once they have lived their a while, it becomes Muslim land.
When did criticism of religion become a mental illness?
Are we saying that Muslims have earned the right to commit some atrocities to even the score?
The fact that the West wiped the floor with Ataturk's arse isn't something for the West to apologise for.
Seems as though the Islamist mindset holds longer grudges...
all it is
who's better than who at a particular time blahblahblah
and all for WHAT?
You have one hell of a nerve to talk about facts given the virulently prejudicial nature of some of your own posts and your expressed support for dictatorial regimes with truly odious human rights records.
You need to get your facts right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Campaign
Socialism?
Is this supposed to make us feel guilty and justify terrorism? You do realise that this is a very selective interpretation of what's happened, don't you?
The OP is also forgetting the biggest killer of Muslims, even in the countries where Western troops and drones are, is other militant Muslims. They're routinely killing far more of their own people than our tanks and drones are.