Homeland - Season 3 [ US Pace ]

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  • billykubrickbillykubrick Posts: 603
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    shya100 wrote: »
    I am sorry about that but it was a genuine mistake that I hadn't put them in spoiler tags and when I realised my mistake I was mortified but it was just an attempt to be blase and dismiss it because in any case you could feel sorry about Brody after 11, and I was trying to cover up a mistake without making a big deal about.

    That's ok! It was fairly obvious quite early on in the show actually and one could argue I was spared the tension of whether he would actually escape! Am a bit disappointed he's gone actually but hopefuly the next season will prove there's life in the drama still. Regarding spoilers I do tend to avoid the threads because you can never be too sure. I see that if I had read the news sites on entertainment I would have seen "two major characters to leave Homeland" which would have annoyed me also!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 618
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    I feel for UK pace viewers because the ending has been all over the place this week even with Damien Lewis interviews and son on… Why UK newspapers/site feel they have to review it at US pace is beyond me

    I got annoyed to by reading a few hints from people who had seen the finale before it was aired in the US - I did not know at the time that it had leaked - but I was not as much as annoyed with the poster but at the writers

    It is beyond me to understand the story they have chosen to tell. They had so much story to tell at the end of season one instead they went and systematically destroyed every single character (for me in season 3 they totally distorted Saul has we knew him) and every single optional narrative by twist and turn that appeared at time quite schizophrenic

    Still simmering over it, never happened for me with a TV show before , either I will stop watching or enjoyed… and I know I am not the only one to feel this way
  • JasonJason Posts: 76,557
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    I've just actually watched the last one - didn't want to wait until later, even though I wasn't actually aware of Brody's fate.

    It was fairly heavily signposted though in the scene in the safehouse where Carrie said to him that they were destined to be together and he agreed. I said to myself "Aha .. someone's going to die ..".

    To me, it just felt like a series finale more than a season finale, but that's probably because I found the whole of Season 3 hard going - I only started watching it last Sunday. It became a lot like a CIA procedural towards the end and just became really quite boring.

    With the way it ended, it was wrapped up enough to satisfy me if i decide not to bother with Season 4.
  • margarite6666margarite6666 Posts: 2,969
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    Broadcasters have to really address the US and other countries pace in the digital age. I posted on the UK pace page and had to keep reminding myself they hadn't seen the final episode ( I still have not but read a recap). They managed to screen Doctor Who simultaneously and I think BBC America will show the Christmas special at the same time.

    Trouble is the Internet is about knowledge and if you come on here at all you are in danger of being 'spoiled'.

    I just think Brody became an integral part of this programme although the writers wanted to kill him off in season 1. If they had done so it would have been so much easier to move on as he was more of an ambiguous character.

    Having the Carrie/Brodie romance was also a mistake because you couldn't help root for the star crossed lovers. Them saying they were destined for each other. That is more Romeo and Juliet than a CIA Black Ops type of show. Americans don't seem to be able to leave the saccharine out. Ratings went down I think partly because of the time they spent on Dana and Brody wasn't in it for the first half of season 3. I just began to care deeply about what happened to him and I feel they manipulated the viewers too much.
  • shya100shya100 Posts: 1,797
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    That's ok! It was fairly obvious quite early on in the show actually and one could argue I was spared the tension of whether he would actually escape! Am a bit disappointed he's gone actually but hopefuly the next season will prove there's life in the drama still. Regarding spoilers I do tend to avoid the threads because you can never be too sure. I see that if I had read the news sites on entertainment I would have seen "two major characters to leave Homeland" which would have annoyed me also!

    Well it all looks very exciting for next season. Looking forward to it.
  • RandysbackRandysback Posts: 3,404
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    No one has mentioned that the hanging was rubbish. Hanging kills by drop and breaking of neck and spinal cord, not suffocation. Even a barbaric nation like Iran will hang by drop and not suffocation.

    For TV they could not drop him so supported his entire body with a rod in his back as they lifted him up

    Barbaric nation. .?? How many people have Iran killed with drones this decade..
  • Killary45Killary45 Posts: 1,826
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    Iran does not normally use the drop form of hanging, that was used in the UK during the last century, when a trap door would open and the victim would drop a certain distance depending on their weight so that the neck would break and death would be instant. In Iran, and there are videos on YouTube, they lift the victim and choke them to death slowly.

    There is a recent case of an Iranian who was hanged for 12 minutes, declared dead by a doctor, but was found breathing in a mortuary the next day. He was then thought to have been granted a reprieve. http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/23/world/meast/iran-execution-reprieve/

    So since it has actually happened in real life, the survival of Brody would be less far fetched than many of the things in this series, but I don't think that fans would accept it.
  • si29uksi29uk Posts: 1,286
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    Having finally caught up with Eps 11 and 12 (I had managed to avoid spoilers - which is quite an achievement), I still find myself impressed by the overall arch of the season. I know that is an unfashionable position to take - but I still find much to enjoy in it.

    The central performances are completely wonderful - Saul, Carrie and Brody carry off very difficult scenes with assurance and skill. The supporting roles, on the whole, are equally well handled.

    I would have liked some closure for the Brody family. That could have been handled quite simply - but would have resolved things for that part of the narrative.

    There is plenty of potential for future seasons. Carrie in Istanbul, Saul in New York - their paths will cross again. Javadi will not prove easy to handle now he has power. I hope we see more of Rupert Friend who was underused this season - and has enough inner demons to be worthy of greater exposure.

    There is part of me that thinks the Brody execution was faked. Perhaps rumours will circulate, Carrie will chase sightings. I hope we don't see Damian Lewis again - but the hint that he might still be out there would add some good tension.

    I think Carrie will find a way to stay in the life of her child - so there is plenty to work with there.

    I am going to stick with Homeland - it has been a class show for 3 seasons. I know there are those who have given up - but I won't be one of them.
  • FrankBTFrankBT Posts: 4,212
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    feeVerte wrote: »
    It is beyond me to understand the story they have chosen to tell. They had so much story to tell at the end of season one instead they went and systematically destroyed every single character (for me in season 3 they totally distorted Saul has we knew him) and every single optional narrative by twist and turn that appeared at time quite schizophrenic
    I'm not sure I agree with your view on Saul. He wasn't no 1 until series 3. So when that time came and he was the one doing the planning and giving the orders he would have had to become more ruthless and calculating as we saw. The big problem I have with s3 in particular is how far-fetched it all became. Just taking the one scene with Brody simply walking out of Akbari's office alone, all nervous and sweaty having just killed him would have raised a few eyebrows. Either Akbari would have come to the door with him or he'd have called one of the security guys to escort Brody out. Or while still in Akbari's office Brody spots a mobile phone and simply calls up Carrie for help. He just happens to memorize or know her number when she only had recently arrived in Tehran without contacting him initially other than briefly warn him that he was about to be killed? And that phone could have been infiltrated by Akbari's agents.

    Despite that I found eps 11 and 12 gripping.
  • shya100shya100 Posts: 1,797
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    si29uk wrote: »
    I think Carrie will find a way to stay in the life of her child - so there is plenty to work with there.

    She will keep her child. In any case it could be an interesting dynamic to investigate because how do you do her job and then go home and be Mum? Hypothetically speaking of course because we wouldn't see much of actual child.
  • shadowassassinshadowassassin Posts: 1,770
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    Broadcasters have to really address the US and other countries pace in the digital age. I posted on the UK pace page and had to keep reminding myself they hadn't seen the final episode ( I still have not but read a recap). They managed to screen Doctor Who simultaneously and I think BBC America will show the Christmas special at the same time.

    Yup. Will they? Nope.
  • mal2poolmal2pool Posts: 5,690
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    Right, glad its over. Watched it from the start but it gets really slow most of the time. Had enough now
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