Sky cynically sponsors 'The Lost Honour of Christopher Jefferies' ?

i4ui4u Posts: 54,937
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Apart from the money what were ITV thinking when they allowed Sky to be the sponsors of this programmes and was it a cynical decision by Sky to make money out of the distress caused to Christopher Jefferies by the media in particular The Sun?

This was a serious drama regularly interrupted by irrelevant and inappropriate sponsors messages. There was a scene were a black lawyer consulted with Jefferies over his series situation and the scene cut to a black guy sucking on a long string of spaghetti, in a supposedly comical sponsor's message.

I hope their sponsorship backfires big team and costs them more than The Sun's contempt of court fine and substantial damages the paper had to pay Jefferies.
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  • TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    In this case maybe ITV have a deal in place for Sky to sponsor all it's drama specials? But if so maybe they should have thought about it a bit more in this case.

    But sponsors in general destroy serious drama, they cut from a serious issue to some bit of ad-men tackiness.
  • Paul_HayesPaul_Hayes Posts: 170
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    It wasn't specifically for this one programme - Sky have a deal with ITV for drama sponsorship.
  • ktla5ktla5 Posts: 1,683
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    Could have easily have been DFS or Cadbury's Milk Tray, Burger King, so just another sponsers name really, at the end of the day all of them are annoying, and it does not make me go and buy a sofa or a burger !!
  • i4ui4u Posts: 54,937
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    ktla5 wrote: »
    Could have easily have been DFS or Cadbury's Milk Tray, Burger King, so just another sponsers name really, at the end of the day all of them are annoying, and it does not make me go and buy a sofa or a burger !!

    As the sponsor is directly connected to the programme you'd think ITV or the director would insist the contents of the sponsors message didn't detract from the drama.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 988
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    On the subject of advertising, can anyone in the know explain why there were no commercials in at least the last 3 ad breaks (here in the Tyne Tees region anyway), just a series of ITV promos? Had the network reached the limit for advertising minutes by then? Or has advertising passed the pre-Xmas peak period on ITV?
  • chrisjrchrisjr Posts: 33,282
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    Paul_Hayes wrote: »
    It wasn't specifically for this one programme - Sky have a deal with ITV for drama sponsorship.

    You do have to wonder why Sky are sponsoring programmes on one of their main competitors though. I'm sure it makes commercial sense to somebody.
  • henderohendero Posts: 11,773
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    i4u wrote: »
    As the sponsor is directly connected to the programme you'd think ITV or the director would insist the contents of the sponsors message didn't detract from the drama.

    The Sponsor was Sky, not The Sun. They may have a common parent company, but they are separate businesses. Had The Sun run ads during the programme, that would have been noteworthy.

    As for the content and timing of the Sky ads, are you seriously suggesting that News International had seen the programme in advance, and decided to create an advert for Sky featuring a black guy eating spaghetti, and that advert would run immediately after a scene featuring a black lawyer in the programme, for comedic effect? Even if they had all that planned, what's the connection? Or is it just so unusual to have a black lawyer in a TV programme followed by an advert featuring a black person eating spaghetti that this jumped out and you dreamt up a ludicruous conspiracy theory?
  • mightymilliemightymillie Posts: 5,063
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    The sponsor is Sky Broadband.
  • Andy23Andy23 Posts: 15,926
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    Sky Broadband sponsor "ITV Showcase drama"

    If ITV had decided to seek another sponsor for this drama, then a) they would be breaking the contract and b) sky would argue that the link between Sky Broadband and The Sun's involvement in the case is tenuous at best.
  • JAS84JAS84 Posts: 7,430
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    hendero wrote: »
    The Sponsor was Sky, not The Sun. They may have a common parent company, but they are separate businesses. Had The Sun run ads during the programme, that would have been noteworthy.
    Common owner (Murdoch), but not common parent company any more. Sky is majority owned by 21st Century Fox, while The Sun is owned by News Corp. Those two companies split from the old News Corporation a few months ago.
  • 1andrew11andrew1 Posts: 4,088
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    JAS84 wrote: »
    Common owner (Murdoch), but not common parent company any more. Sky is majority owned by 21st Century Fox, while The Sun is owned by News Corp. Those two companies split from the old News Corporation a few months ago.
    Almost correct except that Sky is only 39% owned by 21st Century Fox which is not a majority.
  • jlp95bwfcjlp95bwfc Posts: 18,346
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    chrisjr wrote: »
    You do have to wonder why Sky are sponsoring programmes on one of their main competitors though. I'm sure it makes commercial sense to somebody.

    ITV aren't competitors to Sky at all, certainly not Sky Broadband.
  • JohnbeeJohnbee Posts: 4,019
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    But it was an excellent play, a million times better than anything the BBC have had recently.
    And of course Sky News was very much more responsible over this matter than was BBC News, which I watched when Joanna Y. was murdered and the BBC absolutely had me utterly convinced that the funny hair man was a killer. Of course the BBC has the state behind them so they are untouchable.

    I am a BBC supporter, but I am sure that they should support the people, who pay for them, and not the Establishment or state which is what they do now. The BBC should be independent.

    So, BBC feeling guilty and launching an obfuscation attack on a rival? Yes, seems right. BBC stooges strike again.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,718
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    i4u wrote: »
    As the sponsor is directly connected to the programme you'd think ITV or the director would insist the contents of the sponsors message didn't detract from the drama.

    Why would they do that? Is that going to earn them more money?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,718
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    jlp95bwfc wrote: »
    ITV aren't competitors to Sky at all, certainly not Sky Broadband.

    They are but only in terms of ratings and the add revenue that brings.
  • Bandspread199Bandspread199 Posts: 4,897
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    RayRidley wrote: »
    On the subject of advertising, can anyone in the know explain why there were no commercials in at least the last 3 ad breaks (here in the Tyne Tees region anyway), just a series of ITV promos? Had the network reached the limit for advertising minutes by then? Or has advertising passed the pre-Xmas peak period on ITV?

    Saving carry over time for big audience (high money) shows.
  • i4ui4u Posts: 54,937
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    Jack1 wrote: »
    Why would they do that? Is that going to earn them more money?

    Well if its all about money then don't make dramas (which are extremely expensive to make) and stick on another re-run of 'You've Been Framed'.
  • i4ui4u Posts: 54,937
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    hendero wrote: »
    The Sponsor was Sky, not The Sun. They may have a common parent company, but they are separate businesses. Had The Sun run ads during the programme, that would have been noteworthy.

    And James Murdoch never knew nothing about phone hacking and why he was asked to sign large cheques to an individual....
    In May 2012, a highly critical UK Parliamentary report said Murdoch had 'showed wilful ignorance of the extent of phone-hacking' and found him 'guilty of an astonishing lack of curiosity' over the issue

    It's shame he was forced to resign as chairman of BSkyB in the wake of the on-going phone-hacking scandal....to be continued....:)
  • i4ui4u Posts: 54,937
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    hendero wrote: »
    As for the content and timing of the Sky ads, are you seriously suggesting that News International had seen the programme in advance, and decided to create an advert for Sky featuring a black guy eating spaghetti, and that advert would run immediately after a scene featuring a black lawyer in the programme, for comedic effect? Even if they had all that planned, what's the connection? Or is it just so unusual to have a black lawyer in a TV programme followed by an advert featuring a black person eating spaghetti that this jumped out and you dreamt up a ludicruous conspiracy theory?

    You seem to be the only person suggesting a conspiracy....it's beyond the wit of broadcasters to view sponsors messages and their placing in relation to the content of the programme.

    Such as not doing a programme about the death of Whitney Houston and cutting to "She looks good in a body bag" from a puppet in a sponsors message.
  • ktla5ktla5 Posts: 1,683
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    i4u wrote: »
    As the sponsor is directly connected to the programme you'd think ITV or the director would insist the contents of the sponsors message didn't detract from the drama.

    Its ITV that play out the sponser bumpers, dont suppose they even bother to see what is on them, just play out at random, the content has nothing to do with the content of the programme, was wtaching somethig the other day was sponsered by specsavers, featured someone going blind in an accident !
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,718
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    i4u wrote: »
    Well if its all about money then don't make dramas (which are extremely expensive to make) and stick on another re-run of 'You've Been Framed'.

    Dramas having far higher ratings than those shows, are you suggesting ITV has another motive?
  • i4ui4u Posts: 54,937
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    Jack1 wrote: »
    Dramas having far higher ratings than those shows, are you suggesting ITV has another motive?

    The three ad breaks I saw during the drama last night only had promotions for ITV programmes and channels no commercials.

    To assume bigger ratings mean bigger profits doesn't always work out as I indicated drama is extremely expensive and the first night ratings I believe was less than 4m.

    Does ITV still make these types of dramas or merely buy the right to broadcast them, the writer of Broadchurch took the idea to ITV who told him to go and get the finance in place first, and that's probably there is a US & UK version.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,718
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    i4u wrote: »
    The three ad breaks I saw during the drama last night only had promotions for ITV programmes and channels no commercials.

    To assume bigger ratings mean bigger profits doesn't always work out as I indicated drama is extremely expensive and the first night ratings I believe was less than 4m.

    Does ITV still make these types of dramas or merely buy the right to broadcast them, the writer of Broadchurch took the idea to ITV who told him to go and get the finance in place first, and that's probably there is a US & UK version.

    So if there motive isn't profit, what is it?
  • henderohendero Posts: 11,773
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    i4u wrote: »
    You seem to be the only person suggesting a conspiracy....it's beyond the wit of broadcasters to view sponsors messages and their placing in relation to the content of the programme.

    Such as not doing a programme about the death of Whitney Houston and cutting to "She looks good in a body bag" from a puppet in a sponsors message.

    So perhaps you can explain the supposed link between the content of the programme and the advert with the guy eating spaghetti which made it "inappopriate".
  • derek500derek500 Posts: 24,888
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    i4u wrote: »

    Does ITV still make these types of dramas or merely buy the right to broadcast them, the writer of Broadchurch took the idea to ITV who told him to go and get the finance in place first, and that's probably there is a US & UK version.

    That was good of Rupert to get his chequebook out then, as we wouldn't have got one of the best dramas of the year.

    At least being a 'Mystery' and not a 'Showcase' drama a 21st Century Fox programme won't be sponsored by Sky Broadband!!
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