See here for an overview re agricultural ties.Quite interesting, especially the bit about it reducing property values by 30%
Thanks for the link, and to snoweyowl - I must get my ears tested
Even with a big discount on the land, it's a risky build and design if they ever have cause to sell - at retirement they'd be hard pushed to show they made their living from farming. GD is also about the risks or mad things people do to achieve their dream home and this one, especially with it's planning/agri restrictions fits the bill.
It goes without saying that I didn't think much of this construction. It's main merit was that it made a low impact in the landscape. The interior was totally lacking in homeliness and as for the £40k sliding window well I dont know what to say. I'm surprised they didn't use pink granite rather than flint.
I was impressed with their energy and the success of the brewery though.
They're - more or less - just round the corner from us and TBF the build does look good and blends in well (quite an achievement considering how modern it looks). I give them lots of credit for being inspired by the flint wall of Enborne church which looks great - their version looks pretty excellent as well and I think they were right to go for the norfolk flint - our local variety can look pretty 'muddy', depending on light and weather.
For sure, the sliding window did seem over-the-top but the view did look really spectacular from inside (which is what they were aiming for). The actual view is such that you can see weather 'advancing' on Enborne....watching a real good storm roll in thru that window should be quite an experience.
Could take or leave the minimalist interior but those gothic beds would have to go:D
I surprised myself by quite liking the exterior of the house, but I intensely disliked the interior. And as for that bed .......... oh my, what a monstrosity!
Digiguide has the coming week's episode as 11 or 11 and is not listed as a 'revisited'. ( seem to remember a couple of episodes at the end of the last series were 'revisiteds' (a.k.a 'repeats').
To be honest, there have been so many Grand Gesigns now that I find it hard to place a lot of them just from their descriptions. I definitely don't remember anything about a mayor trying to get people to repaint something white - although I have no doubt missed a couple over the years.
Yes it's a repeat. My recollection is that the sun-shading went slightly wrong. Presumably it's not much of a spoiler to write that the not-whiteness was eventually appreciated.
Yes it's a repeat. My recollection is that the sun-shading went slightly wrong. Presumably it's not much of a spoiler to write that the not-whiteness was eventually appreciated.
Looks as if I may have a 'bonus', then, but I have been caught out like this before. The description seems to emphasise different things to the actual programme so you think you're getting a new episode and then you're disappointed.
Only just caught up on this weeks house and generally I dislike these ultra modern efforts but I loved this one (except the beds) I don't know exactly why I loved it so much but it just felt right for me!
I think you'll find it's an 'agricultural tie', nothing to do with tithes
Indeed - not sure how anyone could have misheard that. The architects' website actually describes it as a section 106 requirement, which is the provision that requires developers to pay or contribute in kind to the community, so that is how it was enforced. And there's a useful link here about what such a tie generally means.
I really liked this; the exterior was good and fitting and dynamic without being silly. Agreed, the interior was a bit cold but the windows/views were stunning. Why would the glass window/door jam? Just because it's not something you see everyday doesn't mean it won't work.
Becuase it's electrically driven. The weight of the window will eventually jam the electric motor. You have to use a hydraulic motor for any job like that.
Becuase it's electrically driven. The weight of the window will eventually jam the electric motor. You have to use a hydraulic motor for any job like that.
Hmm, that's a bit presumptious - how do you know that it's electrically driven? All we saw was one close up of part of the mechanism. And call me old fashioned but I like to assume that the professionals who designed and installed the door know what they're doing.
I'd like to think they asked a contractor with experience of installing similar devices but I very much doubt they did.
They would have to have obtained professional advice.
You can't just go and put in some motor at random. It would be a complete mechanism with a control system that and that would have a specification that would include the maximum design load.
Unless they ignored the maximum loading, they should have no problems with it not powering the mechanism.
They would have to have obtained professional advice.
You can't just go and put in some motor at random. It would be a complete mechanism with a control system that and that would have a specification that would include the maximum design load.
Unless they ignored the maximum loading, they should have no problems with it not powering the mechanism.
I paint this scenario. You have the window open on a barmy late Autumn day, when suddenly a storm brews and it suddenly sheets down with rain and there is a sudden power outage. How do you close that bleeding glass monstrosity? Have you got a cranking handle or something as my car's sunshine roof has?
I paint this scenario. You have the window open on a barmy late Autumn day, when suddenly a storm brews and it suddenly sheets down with rain and there is a sudden power outage. How do you close that bleeding glass monstrosity? Have you got a cranking handle or something as my car's sunshine roof has?
That's a bit of a non sequitur!
I just said that they would have needed to get proper advice before installing a mechanism, not that it was necessarily a perfect solution.
Nonetheless, I would strongly suspect that the mechanism would have some provision for manual closing (the window may be big but it is on a smooth track), because, otherwise, it would be disastrous if the mechanism failed, or, as you suggest, there was a power cut, for security as well as weather protection.
I just said that they would have needed to get proper advice before installing a mechanism, not that it was necessarily a perfect solution.
Nonetheless, I would strongly suspect that the mechanism would have some provision for manual closing (the window may be big but it is on a smooth track), because, otherwise, it would be disastrous if the mechanism failed, or, as you suggest, there was a power cut, for security as well as weather protection.
Well I did suggest that it might have a mechanical means of closure should the electricity supply fail.:rolleyes:
I actually really enjoyed this week's build. The flint wall was a great piece of architecture.
The success of their brewery was a nice touch to add to things.
The interior might not have been for everyone but the view from that window? Wow!
It's interesting on here that everyone is bemoaning the "big glass box" builds that are becoming more frequent on the show.
I can see why it seems a bit repetitive but it's surely just part of the way people are going to tackle a modern build. The same way every build from the 1930s had a bathroom downstairs, folk have changed that and put them upstairs. Open plan living / dining areas, given the way we all live now, are a standard feature of a modern house.
These kinds of things just lead to a similarity of sorts across all builds. It's maybe just me but I think it'd be my choice of style had I the money and land. I'd have white rendered walls, a large main window for a view, open plan kitchen / dining and some wooden paneling on the exterior.
Also, for some strange reason, the build on next week's revisited popped in to my head just a matter of days ago. I loved that house. It was the sort of thing a holiday home would be a dream for. I'm really looking forward to catching up with the couple and see how it is. Can't quite believe it was 9 years back too (though I may only have seen it 5 or 6 years back when I was catching up with a few episodes I'd missed during the initial airing period.
Becuase it's electrically driven. The weight of the window will eventually jam the electric motor. You have to use a hydraulic motor for any job like that.
I'd like to think they asked a contractor with experience of installing similar devices but I very much doubt they did.
Fair point if the motor type was mentioned, but IMHO it's a bit arrogant to question its quality - just don't see where you're coming from. The door was installed by a specialist architectural glazing company with 25 years' experience, in conjunction with an architect and a structural engineer. Feel free to question that combined knowledge, but I'd be more than happy.
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True, but they were the ones who chose to introduce the tie into the programme.
And it wasn't at all clear how that worked or why a brewery was considered 'agricultural'.
Thanks for the link, and to snoweyowl - I must get my ears tested
Even with a big discount on the land, it's a risky build and design if they ever have cause to sell - at retirement they'd be hard pushed to show they made their living from farming. GD is also about the risks or mad things people do to achieve their dream home and this one, especially with it's planning/agri restrictions fits the bill.
I was impressed with their energy and the success of the brewery though.
Repeats from now on so that's it for this series.
For sure, the sliding window did seem over-the-top but the view did look really spectacular from inside (which is what they were aiming for). The actual view is such that you can see weather 'advancing' on Enborne....watching a real good storm roll in thru that window should be quite an experience.
Could take or leave the minimalist interior but those gothic beds would have to go:D
BTW, their beer is pretty darn good, as well
Are you sure?
Digiguide has the coming week's episode as 11 or 11 and is not listed as a 'revisited'. ( seem to remember a couple of episodes at the end of the last series were 'revisiteds' (a.k.a 'repeats').
To be honest, there have been so many Grand Gesigns now that I find it hard to place a lot of them just from their descriptions. I definitely don't remember anything about a mayor trying to get people to repaint something white - although I have no doubt missed a couple over the years.
Looks as if I may have a 'bonus', then, but I have been caught out like this before. The description seems to emphasise different things to the actual programme so you think you're getting a new episode and then you're disappointed.
Indeed - not sure how anyone could have misheard that. The architects' website actually describes it as a section 106 requirement, which is the provision that requires developers to pay or contribute in kind to the community, so that is how it was enforced. And there's a useful link here about what such a tie generally means.
I really liked this; the exterior was good and fitting and dynamic without being silly. Agreed, the interior was a bit cold but the windows/views were stunning. Why would the glass window/door jam? Just because it's not something you see everyday doesn't mean it won't work.
last weeks cob house was truly amazing
Becuase it's electrically driven. The weight of the window will eventually jam the electric motor. You have to use a hydraulic motor for any job like that.
Hmm, that's a bit presumptious - how do you know that it's electrically driven? All we saw was one close up of part of the mechanism. And call me old fashioned but I like to assume that the professionals who designed and installed the door know what they're doing.
Because Kevin told us:
I'd like to think they asked a contractor with experience of installing similar devices but I very much doubt they did.
They would have to have obtained professional advice.
You can't just go and put in some motor at random. It would be a complete mechanism with a control system that and that would have a specification that would include the maximum design load.
Unless they ignored the maximum loading, they should have no problems with it not powering the mechanism.
What happens if there's a sudden downpour. The house could get soaked it shuts so slowly.
I paint this scenario. You have the window open on a barmy late Autumn day, when suddenly a storm brews and it suddenly sheets down with rain and there is a sudden power outage. How do you close that bleeding glass monstrosity? Have you got a cranking handle or something as my car's sunshine roof has?
That's a bit of a non sequitur!
I just said that they would have needed to get proper advice before installing a mechanism, not that it was necessarily a perfect solution.
Nonetheless, I would strongly suspect that the mechanism would have some provision for manual closing (the window may be big but it is on a smooth track), because, otherwise, it would be disastrous if the mechanism failed, or, as you suggest, there was a power cut, for security as well as weather protection.
Well I did suggest that it might have a mechanical means of closure should the electricity supply fail.:rolleyes:
The success of their brewery was a nice touch to add to things.
The interior might not have been for everyone but the view from that window? Wow!
It's interesting on here that everyone is bemoaning the "big glass box" builds that are becoming more frequent on the show.
I can see why it seems a bit repetitive but it's surely just part of the way people are going to tackle a modern build. The same way every build from the 1930s had a bathroom downstairs, folk have changed that and put them upstairs. Open plan living / dining areas, given the way we all live now, are a standard feature of a modern house.
These kinds of things just lead to a similarity of sorts across all builds. It's maybe just me but I think it'd be my choice of style had I the money and land. I'd have white rendered walls, a large main window for a view, open plan kitchen / dining and some wooden paneling on the exterior.
Also, for some strange reason, the build on next week's revisited popped in to my head just a matter of days ago. I loved that house. It was the sort of thing a holiday home would be a dream for. I'm really looking forward to catching up with the couple and see how it is. Can't quite believe it was 9 years back too (though I may only have seen it 5 or 6 years back when I was catching up with a few episodes I'd missed during the initial airing period.
It seemed to be worrying you, otherwise, why post?
I was just reassuring you that mechanical backup was likely.
And professional advice is often wrong as the builder of similar devices for TV and movie sets once told me.
We'll know for certain in three years time when Kevin revisits the site.
Fair point if the motor type was mentioned, but IMHO it's a bit arrogant to question its quality - just don't see where you're coming from. The door was installed by a specialist architectural glazing company with 25 years' experience, in conjunction with an architect and a structural engineer. Feel free to question that combined knowledge, but I'd be more than happy.
£38k back in '06.
http://youtu.be/Cv6injMgBNc
One of the first episodes I watched was this one all those years ago.
Love the house and glad the locals seem to have accepted it.