I'm not usually pedantic about these shows but the one thing that stood out was that Susan said 'hello' when answering the phone, surely she would have answered with the phone number.
They didn't kill her off so maybe she'll come back next Series (if there is one). It would be a shame to think that she thought one show was better than the other!
Well if they were both being filmed at the same time she had no option but to make a choice between the two. It was probably better for her career to do a different role rather than staying in the same one. She's becoming a well known and highly regarded actress so may not have wanted to get locked into an ongoing series to the exclusion of other roles. Hopefully though she will make a reappearance if other commitments allow.
The ending was a bit to similar to that of the first series ie they went off to speak a main suspect without telling the authorities
The warning background music as they walked through his front door was a bit unnecessary. They could have just let the viewers half guess, but not be entirely sure, that he was a baddie.
I'm not usually pedantic about these shows but the one thing that stood out was that Susan said 'hello' when answering the phone, surely she would have answered with the phone number.
Does anyone still do that?
What? Answer with the number or answer with "Hello"?
We always say Hello!
My husband said he seriously thought about applying to go to the "Cold Cure Research Centre" when he was in the Air Force in 1953/4! Go job he didn't as it was, as said in the programme, a testing clinic for chemical weapons.
What? Answer with the number or answer with "Hello"?
We always say Hello!
My husband said he seriously thought about applying to go to the "Cold Cure Research Centre" when he was in the Air Force in 1953/4! Go job he didn't as it was, as said in the programme, a testing clinic for chemical weapons.
This series would have worked a lot better if they had been seconded to Scotland Yard and worked on cases where code breaking logic would have been of use. As it is it's all a bit silly, often very silly. A pity given the very good production values.
Another serious drop off was the suggestion that all manner of nasty chemical weapons were found in Germany after the war. There was no such thing. Germany was not developing chemical or nuclear weapons. In the case of nuclear this was because they didn't think they were practicable and as far as chemical is concerned Hitler, who was gassed in WW1, wouldn't countenance them.
I'm not usually pedantic about these shows but the one thing that stood out was that Susan said 'hello' when answering the phone, surely she would have answered with the phone number.
Does anyone still do that?
Can I add my pedantic thought
The sister at the hospital asked Susan how she was and Susan replied "Good. I'm good." That really is a very modern expression. She would most likely have replied "I'm very well thank you."
What? Answer with the number or answer with "Hello"?
We always say Hello!
My husband said he seriously thought about applying to go to the "Cold Cure Research Centre" when he was in the Air Force in 1953/4! Go job he didn't as it was, as said in the programme, a testing clinic for chemical weapons.
When I was in the Air Force in the late 60s they were always asking for volunteers to go to Porton Down to be given a cold. The money was good. Dont know if they were up to no good then but glad I didn't volunteer.
I have enjoyed this series tremendously so far. I haven't noticed the so-called flaws since I don't bother looking out for them, I just sit back and let the lovely ladies get on with their jobs catching the villains.
Does anyone know if the word redacted was used then, in tthe way it is used now, to denote that some details are hidden.
Per the Merriam-Webster dictionary it's:
Middle English, from Latin redactus, past participle of redigere First Known Use: 15th century
While the word may have been in existence for a long time I suspect it was previously confined to very specialised circles. My feeling is it only came into wider use following the introduction of Freedom of Information legislation. Though the latter promotes the principle of 'open government' it does still maintain the right of organisations affected to withhold all or part of documents if specific criteria are met. This phenomenon of documents being published with bits blanked out is a modern one. Previously, documents subject, say, to 'official secrets' restrictions would simply have been wholly withheld.
So, if you're suggesting that use of the word 'redacted' in a 1950s setting was anachronistic, I agree.
Middle English, from Latin redactus, past participle of redigere First Known Use: 15th century
While the word may have been in existence for a long time I suspect it was previously confined to very specialised circles. My feeling is it only came into wider use following the introduction of Freedom of Information legislation. Though the latter promotes the principle of 'open government' it does still maintain the right of organisations affected to withhold all or part of documents if specific criteria are met. This phenomenon of documents being published with bits blanked out is a modern one. Previously, documents subject, say, to 'official secrets' restrictions would simply have been wholly withheld.
So, if you're suggesting that use of the word 'redacted' in a 1950s setting was anachronistic, I agree.
Maybe having worked at Bletchley, they would have been exposed to documents that had been redacted at certain points.
This series would have worked a lot better if they had been seconded to Scotland Yard and worked on cases where code breaking logic would have been of use. As it is it's all a bit silly, often very silly. A pity given the very good production values.
I would agree with that. As the girls are amateur they have to spend effort gaining access to records which wastes time. If they were employed in a professional way they could just focus on cracking cases.
Of course this would make the series anachronistic as even the CID, filled with men, wasn't so well organised as the minds of these women.
I would agree with that. As the girls are amateur they have to spend effort gaining access to records which wastes time. If they were employed in a professional way they could just focus on cracking cases.
Of course this would make the series anachronistic as even the CID, filled with men, wasn't so well organised as the minds of these women.
The original premise was that they were these highly intelligent, highly skilled women who had done critical work during the war but now had to fade into obscurity, telling no one about their role in Bletchley Park. It was interesting to see the contrast between their wartime and post-war lives - but that doesn't seem to be as central this time. I wish they'd focus a bit more on that, as it was what made this series unique.
Yes, post war they have turned into amateur sleuths with very good cross-referencing skills. I wonder if that's laziness on the part of the writers?
I believe next week Millie gets abducted and 'the girls' have to come to her rescue. It's getting a bit Enid Blyton/girls comic-ish. I really do think the writers should stand back for a minute and remember why the series was originally conceived.
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Does anyone still do that?
Well if they were both being filmed at the same time she had no option but to make a choice between the two. It was probably better for her career to do a different role rather than staying in the same one. She's becoming a well known and highly regarded actress so may not have wanted to get locked into an ongoing series to the exclusion of other roles. Hopefully though she will make a reappearance if other commitments allow.
The warning background music as they walked through his front door was a bit unnecessary. They could have just let the viewers half guess, but not be entirely sure, that he was a baddie.
What? Answer with the number or answer with "Hello"?
We always say Hello!
My husband said he seriously thought about applying to go to the "Cold Cure Research Centre" when he was in the Air Force in 1953/4! Go job he didn't as it was, as said in the programme, a testing clinic for chemical weapons.
You mean all that was true??
Another serious drop off was the suggestion that all manner of nasty chemical weapons were found in Germany after the war. There was no such thing. Germany was not developing chemical or nuclear weapons. In the case of nuclear this was because they didn't think they were practicable and as far as chemical is concerned Hitler, who was gassed in WW1, wouldn't countenance them.
No I meant does anyone still answer by reciting their phone number, which is what people used to do in the main. 'Hello' is a newish thing.
perhaps they got the idea here
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Porton_Down&action=edit§ion=5
Can I add my pedantic thought
The sister at the hospital asked Susan how she was and Susan replied "Good. I'm good." That really is a very modern expression. She would most likely have replied "I'm very well thank you."
When I was in the Air Force in the late 60s they were always asking for volunteers to go to Porton Down to be given a cold. The money was good. Dont know if they were up to no good then but glad I didn't volunteer.
Yes, I agree totally, she is also beautiful like her mother, Dame Diana Rigg of The Avengers fame.
I don't remember CEOs in the 1990s, never mind the 1950s:D
A 21st century term, surely.
Does anyone know if the word redacted was used then, in tthe way it is used now, to denote that some details are hidden.
Per the Merriam-Webster dictionary it's:
Middle English, from Latin redactus, past participle of redigere
First Known Use: 15th century
While the word may have been in existence for a long time I suspect it was previously confined to very specialised circles. My feeling is it only came into wider use following the introduction of Freedom of Information legislation. Though the latter promotes the principle of 'open government' it does still maintain the right of organisations affected to withhold all or part of documents if specific criteria are met. This phenomenon of documents being published with bits blanked out is a modern one. Previously, documents subject, say, to 'official secrets' restrictions would simply have been wholly withheld.
So, if you're suggesting that use of the word 'redacted' in a 1950s setting was anachronistic, I agree.
Maybe having worked at Bletchley, they would have been exposed to documents that had been redacted at certain points.
I would agree with that. As the girls are amateur they have to spend effort gaining access to records which wastes time. If they were employed in a professional way they could just focus on cracking cases.
Of course this would make the series anachronistic as even the CID, filled with men, wasn't so well organised as the minds of these women.
The original premise was that they were these highly intelligent, highly skilled women who had done critical work during the war but now had to fade into obscurity, telling no one about their role in Bletchley Park. It was interesting to see the contrast between their wartime and post-war lives - but that doesn't seem to be as central this time. I wish they'd focus a bit more on that, as it was what made this series unique.
I believe next week Millie gets abducted and 'the girls' have to come to her rescue. It's getting a bit Enid Blyton/girls comic-ish. I really do think the writers should stand back for a minute and remember why the series was originally conceived.