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Woman demands surgeon severs her spine

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    PrimalIcePrimalIce Posts: 2,897
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    Mentally fit? :confused:

    What made you think that was the case? The woman certainly has something wrong with her -- even if it's just a severe case of Attention Seekerism.

    Who are you talking to?
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    TrollHunterTrollHunter Posts: 12,496
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    IzzyS wrote: »
    because she doesn't want to die, she wants to not feel her legs anymore because they feel alien to her and it causes her a great deal of distress.
    A cheaper alternative would be to kit herself with a special device like Davros from Dr Who c.1980s trundled around in and fill it with ice. Legs go numb plus you can't see them - job done.

    http://www.chrisbalcombe.f2s.com/images/davros3.jpg

    (Funky headset is optional)
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    ffawkesffawkes Posts: 4,495
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    IzzyS wrote: »
    There's the worry about Phantom limb pain as well, if they were to get it done. I remember hearing about that as well, people get amputations and end up feeling like the joints/limbs are still there .

    An amputee must have phantom limb awareness in order to use an artificial limb
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    ffawkesffawkes Posts: 4,495
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    PrimalIce wrote: »
    Who are you talking to?

    Himself I think.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,075
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    She is mentally ill. Sectioning might be an answer but as she is American I don't know how the system works. I expect Dr Nick from the Simpsons might have a go.
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    ChickenWingsChickenWings Posts: 2,057
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    I was talking to the OP but it seems like I missed out the word "not" when reading... :D I agree, she is not mentally fit!
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    elliecatelliecat Posts: 9,890
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    Her family should have got her help when she was 4 when she first showed signs of this. The Mail article tells you when it all started, when she visited her injured Aunt who was in leg braces after being in a car accident. Personally I think she likes the attention in a warped way.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2366260/Body-Integrity-Identity-Disorder-Chloe-Jennings-White-58-disown-legs.html
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    lucy777lucy777 Posts: 2,600
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    I had trouble keeping that in my mind when I read it a few days ago, I couldn't even read it all. I just wanted to punch her, that's coming from someone who should understand. It's a very odd case, she should get some heavy duty psychiatric treatment before she encounters someone who really would react badly to her.

    I feel the same as you. Normally I'm very open minded but as the mum of a 7 year old who is to undergo his 17th surgery next month, 10 of which have been spinal ops, well.. I couldn't read it all either.
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    AnitaSAnitaS Posts: 4,079
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    The article made me angry towards her at first, then I felt some pity. It must be a horrible way to live, wanting to be paraplegic.

    She definitely needs some psychiatric help.

    Having a spinal injury isn't the same as pretending to have one. She can get up and walk whenever she wants.

    I wonder how she feels when she gets sympathy from people who aren't aware she is able-bodied?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 390
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    WoodenCat wrote: »
    Good grief.........I am gobsmacked.

    Snap.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 21,093
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    lucy777 wrote: »
    I feel the same as you. Normally I'm very open minded but as the mum of a 7 year old who is to undergo his 17th surgery next month, 10 of which have been spinal ops, well.. I couldn't read it all either.

    Not sure what to say. I'll give you some of these :):):) and wish you and your son the best. x
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    PencilBreathPencilBreath Posts: 3,643
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    above all, do no harm.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 21,093
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    elliecat wrote: »
    Her family should have got her help when she was 4 when she first showed signs of this. The Mail article tells you when it all started, when she visited her injured Aunt who was in leg braces after being in a car accident. Personally I think she likes the attention in a warped way.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2366260/Body-Integrity-Identity-Disorder-Chloe-Jennings-White-58-disown-legs.html

    That's the trouble I had. Is attention seeking to this extreme an illness? I think I read she has been confronted by angry people, but then, as with some troubled children, any attention is seen as good.

    There is a poster on here who posts about a similar situation about someone else. I have to fight myself to stay out of the threads and let rip. Then I tell myself, well the person must at least have a psychiatric disorder to make up the physical one.
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    ffawkesffawkes Posts: 4,495
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    For those who have got a bit angry, bear in mind the wording of the headline to this item is misleading and deliberately biased. It says she 'demands' it, which is sure fire guaranteed to inflame (as in unemployed family 'demanding' five bedroom council house etc).

    Fact is she hasn't 'demanded' anything. What we have here is a woman with an unfortunate condition but where the reader sees her as a baddy rather than a victim.
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    ffawkes wrote: »
    For those who have got a bit angry, bear in mind the wording of the headline to this item is misleading and deliberately biased. It says she 'demands' it, which is sure fire guaranteed to inflame (as in unemployed family 'demanding' five bedroom council house etc).

    Fact is she hasn't 'demanded' anything. What we have here is a woman with an unfortunate condition but where the reader sees her as a baddy rather than a victim.

    I agree.
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    lucy777 wrote: »
    I feel the same as you. Normally I'm very open minded but as the mum of a 7 year old who is to undergo his 17th surgery next month, 10 of which have been spinal ops, well.. I couldn't read it all either.
    Not sure what to say. I'll give you some of these :):):) and wish you and your son the best. x

    I second this - all the best to your son, I hope it goes well :)
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    nomad2kingnomad2king Posts: 8,415
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    If she wanted to seek attention and/or claim that she thinks she is something she actually isn't, she could just claim she wants to be a he and have sex change operation. What is the underlying difference? There is thinking you are fat, when you're not. Thinking your hands are dirty, when they are not. Saying you are Jesus, when you're not, All are just obsessions of one sort or another.
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    sodavlacsodavlac Posts: 10,607
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    nomad2king wrote: »
    If she wanted to seek attention and/or claim that she thinks she is something she actually isn't, she could just claim she wants to be a he and have sex change operation. What is the underlying difference? There is thinking you are fat, when you're not. Thinking your hands are dirty, when they are not. Saying you are Jesus, when you're not, All are just obsessions of one sort or another.

    She is transgendered, apparently.

    http://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/national-geographic-taboo-fake-paraplegic-chloe-jennings-white/
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    nanscombenanscombe Posts: 16,588
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    So where does one draw the line at which so called "delusions" receive re-enforcement and which get treatment?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 21,093
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    sodavlac wrote: »

    I'm not really interested in the transgender bit but it seems they enjoy the deception.
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    GlowbotGlowbot Posts: 14,847
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    This is so sad. Imaging feeling that way about your own body.

    Can't they just give her an epidural now and again. I'm not sure about the medical facts around that, but it has roughly the same effect right?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,986
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    Why does she need a surgeon? A bullet at the nape of the neck would achieve the same thing. :p
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    AnitaSAnitaS Posts: 4,079
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    sodavlac wrote: »
    So she is actually Clive, a Cambridge graduate? :eek:

    I'm not sure I believe that article, it sounds like it's written by someone with a grudge against men in general.
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    swehsweh Posts: 13,665
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    One would assume it was deemed that she doesn't have the capacity to consent to the treatment.

    I suppose in theory she can demand, and she appears to be highly intelligent, but I cannot see her meeting the consent requirements test nor someone else consenting for that procedure on her behalf.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,986
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    Glowbot wrote: »
    This is so sad. Imaging feeling that way about your own body.

    Can't they just give her an epidural now and again. I'm not sure about the medical facts around that, but it has roughly the same effect right?

    No it doesn't unless there has been some serious mishap.
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