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EastEnders | Tuesday 10th september | Episode Discussion Thread
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EPISODE INFORMATION
BBC One/BBC HD 19:30
BBC Three 22:30

30 Minutes

SPOILERS
cast list
Ronnie Mitchell Samantha Womack
Jack Branning Scott Maslen
Kat Moon Jessie Wallace
Michael Moon Steve John Shepherd
Roxy Mitchell Rita Simons
Alfie Moon Shane Richie
Shirley Carter Linda Henry
Phil Mitchell Steve McFadden
Carl White Daniel Coonan
Ian Beale Adam Woodyatt
Denise Fox Diane Parish
Kirsty Branning Kierston Wareing
Abi Branning Lorna Fitzgerald
Lauren Branning Jacqueline Jossa
Sadie Young Kate Magowan
Lucy Beale Hetti Bywater
Dexter Hartman Khali Best
Jay Brown Jamie Borthwick

Nurse Viss Elliot Safavi
crew
Executive Producer Lorraine Newman
Director Jennie Darnell
Writer Lauren Klee

music played
Infinity Ink Infinity
Leftfield Open Up
Babyshambles Nothing Comes To Nothing
Daughter Human
Jessie Ware Imagine It Was Us
Phoenix Entertainment
Arctic Monkeys Do I wanna Know
Lianne La Havas Is Your Love Big Enough
Plan B Stay Too Long
Suede Hit Me
XX Angels
Cine Orchestra And Relax!
ronnie & jack
clips 2007 - 2011
2nd November 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCIu32SJmy0

8th November 2007-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z76N1yxy17c

3rd December 2007)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxx81u66kOM

Ronnie and Jack kiss under the Mistletoe
(25th December 2007)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilDhPZ4K3Qw

Jack sets a date up for him and Ronnie
(27th December 2007)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHECDbNgLSc

Ronnie & Jack Begin Their Romance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Q10Cy97XE

31/12/2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWILiFLKqMw

Ronnie and Jack kiss in the office
(8th January 2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X175ETl4c6I

18 january 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwQfn8rRXNU

21st jan 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZunN8M3r84w

Jack opens up to Ronnie about Penny
22nd January 2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84CBCqD-yPc

29th January 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck9xRp98ydQ

28th March 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avfc-MJk0y8

30.10.08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nv60nGtTaU

2nd December 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mca5Z5GGqfk

2/2/09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6yLUYma9LM

2 april 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL7juQBlHoc

jack stops ronnie at the airport
: 8 may 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-AI-hYfAQ8

11th may 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHfW2V7NfyY

22nd December 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgZ4nO5jajU

Jack Tells Ronnie That He Has Found Glenda.
19/1/2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSVQOu1N0SE

22/1/2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq61PFS-cGA

(9th July 2010)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMDFgtvesow

20th July 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K953fV4i7Xc

22/7/2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYq5K8gRVC8

(2nd September 2010)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn3oK1QJaCM

Ronnie and Jack wedding
(11th november) // part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdo9ufKTIVU

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQP0zFG3iOI

part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fofO-x7AEjo

part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CElWtOkvGGk

: 7 january 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II_dnlziu0k

18/02/2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4kzSwbF2RI

8/3/2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAS40naO26c

ronnie gives baby tommy back
15/4/2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdR7r2fcBVc

Jack goes to Visit Ronnie in Prison -
19th April 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SFX-ySRdX4

Jack tells Ronnie to come home
20th May 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmsR4-ImJuo

23rd may 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tuuqh1bAzY

17/6/2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjZOF0bcXbo

28/6/2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ppF11-ZmQ

Jack and Ronnie say goodbye:
July 7th 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK4ma5eATys

Jack & Ronnie talk at Max's after the RoxyJack reveal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGO88Ip0rpY

Ronnie tells Jack that she loves him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw6wvdvVdjE

Jack and Ronnie announce their engagement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k63QYQ59q7k

this morning behind the scenes at Jack and Ronnie's wedding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHBAeDkH7hs

FACTS
Ronnie Mitchell
Character trail
Full name: Veronica Elizabeth Mitchell
First appearance: 24th July 2007
Last appearance: 7th July 2011
D.O.B 8 July 1974

Mother Glenda
Father Archie
Half Brothers Danny
Sister Roxy
Children James & Danielle
Nieces Amy
Other love interests Ryan, Joel & Owen
Samantha Womack
@Sam_Womack
March 1991, she won the annual A Song for Europe competition to represent the United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest She finished joint tenth and the song, "A Message to Your Heart", peaked at number 30 on the UK Singles Chart.

The Bill and Press Gang;
in 1993 she appeared in Demob
From 1994 to 1998 Mandy in Game On
Pie in the Sky from 1995 until 1996.
Home Again as Ingrid,
Tanya in Sky Living's Mount Pleasant

Sandy in Grease.
Miss Adelaide Guys and Dolls at London's Piccadilly Theatre, .
She reprised the role at the Sunderland Empire in 2007

[URL="[url]http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/scoop/a511616/eastenders-samantha-womack-on-ronnie-return-and-new-storylines.html[/url]"]sam womack interview [/URL]

Samantha Womack on This Morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4zATSM57pg

Samantha Womack on Daybreak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nDjenAxhMY

Mount Pleasant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0YPsDlIdQ
Jack Branning
Character trail
First appearance: 29th October 2007
Address: 29A Albert Square
D.O.B 5 September 1972

Occupation Co-owner of Branning Brothers Used Cars
Past career: Co-owner of the gym & club, bent copper

Mother Reenie
Step mum Dot
Father Jim
Brothers Max & Derek
Sisters Carol, Suzy & April
Children Richard, Amy, Penny
Nieces Abi, Lauren, Bianca, Alice, Rebecca, Sonia
Nephews Bradley,Oscar, Billie, Joey, Kevin, Robbie,
Other love interests Sam, Sharon, Rainie, Roxy, Tanya,Selina, Chelsea,

Health issues: Jack still has fragments of bullet left in his brain after he was shot by his nephew's ex-girlfriend
Hobbies: Fishing
Football: Supports West Ham
Friends: Michael
Scott Maslen
@RealScottMaslen

Scott Maslen was previously best known for his role as DS Phil Hunter in The Bill.
He's also appeared in Heartbeat, Peak Practice and in Guy Richie's series Lock, Stock...
Scott finished in WEEK 11 SEMI-FINAL with partner Natalie Lowe in strictly
Scott enjoys a spot of fishing, particularly for carp.
His favourite types of music are jazz and funk, .
His favourite EastEnders character of all time is Dot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8macqmTeKXE

scott on strictly
wk 1
wk 2
wk 3
wk 4
wk 5
wk 6
wk 7
wk 8
wk 9
wk 10
wk 11
dance 2
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phil & shirl
clips 2007 - 2013
01-12-2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuY_n5MAf_s
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSo7q2uCVIg
part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReHk9QP0-Aw
22-12-2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMeL6Yvo9q8
23-12-2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd2fRVfLh8g

31/12/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwrvTAV7CDQ

shirl slaps phil 1
2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qZNpdpug_c
18/2/2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWLLIOyxSw

proposal 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAJe3fDTDV4

Glenda & phil affair revealed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Icv22HTiXs

wedding
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgC0A8pY1aE

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2FJUfkGLGg -

part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCQxFowV-cQ

20/3/2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXCjObFfzr4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPrsQZxSKDw&list=PLCD318828003FC120&index=10

Heather Found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK7OfpsuKSk

april 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnsWV99Z86I&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtYkpxhXExk

15/5/2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNq_yJdbpMQ

proposal 2
aug 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Da6Nmch0o&feature=youtu.be

sharon returns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNW_yUJARn0

16th aug 2012 part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFsbHTkMMIM -

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oonLJzW6g8w

shirl dumps phil
aug 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYYNW9d8occ

shirl leaves with carly
7th september 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY6K3yV_5kU

Shirley Returns
[3rd December 2012]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXwMqPasHpg

shirl at sharons party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQuJgWPmosY
EastEnders Revealed: The Murder - Life and Death of Heather Trott -
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvdJFZEZdWM
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN67o7pP2QM&list=PLCD318828003FC120&index=3
part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVgsIBE6TKI
part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgnwYuAFTCQ

FACTS
Shirley Carter
Character trail
First appearance: 5th December 2006
Address: 18-20 Albert Square (Kim's Palace)

Occupation: Assistant at The Minute Mart
Past career: owner of the cafe, barmaid in the pub & club (manager? i cant remember :p )
assistant at mckluckys.

Sister Tina
Children Carly., Jimbo & Deano
Nieces Zsa Zsa
Friends Denise, Jean, bianca
Other love interests Vinnie & Kevin

Likes: Drinking alcohol, socialising and Indian food, boots, smoking
Dislikes: Dog racing and reading books
Music tastes: 80's
Weaknesses: Has bad cooking skills, smoking & drinking
Linda Henry
Before playing Shirley, Linda appeared in EastEnders as Mandy's mum Lorraine Salter, later played by Victoria Alcock.
Linda's best known for playing inmate Yvonne Atkins in Bad Girls.
She also played a different Shirley in Brit gangster flick, The Business.
She played Sandra in "Beautiful Thing"
She's also appeared in Prime Suspect, A Touch of Frost and Cracker.

[URL="[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJGXjH6O56k[/url]"] The Paul O'Grady Show [/URL]

[URL="[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxq8OJ2z4oY[/url]"] Bad Girls. [/URL]
[URL="[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9so88h1sgY[/url]"] Beautiful Thing [/URL]
Phil Mitchell
Character trail
Full name: Philip James Mitchell
First appearance: 20th February 1990
Address: 55 Victoria Road
D.O.B 19 January 1961

Occupation:Businessman

Mother Peggy
Father Eric
Brothers grant
Sister sam
Children ben, louise
Granddaughter lexi
Nieces Courtney
Nephews Mark, Richard,
Friends Max
Other love interests Sharon, Tanya, Kathy, kate, Suzy, Stella, Lorna, Nadia, Dawn, Manda, Rainie, Lisa, Glenda, Melanie, Annie

Football team: Supports West Ham
Likes: Power, curry, pie and mash
Hobbies: Cars, football, boxing, snooker, poker
Dislikes: Musicals, theatres, dance and snakes, being alone
Health issues: Heart attack and substance abuse.car crashes, fires, falling into the pit in the arches
Steve McFadden
@McfaddenSteve
Steve's early TV credits include guest appearances in Bergerac and Minder and a part in the 1988 drama series The Firm with Gary Oldman.
in 2000, he took a break from EastEnders to appear in the BBC's anthology series Murder In Mind.
On the big screen, he played a gang member in Buster and a bouncer in Kevin and Perry Go Large.
Steve is a keen swimmer, and completed The Great North Swim in 35 minutes in aid of the RNLI.
He's a keen sailor and has his own boat. he likes motorbikes & cars too :p (he has a different one everytime ive seen him at elstree :cool:)
He studied at and subsequently graduated from London's prestigious RADA.

interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLQFPVHfxs4


information taken from DS, walford web , wiki and the ee website

lame thread title but i thought it was apt to the s/ls in todays ep :p took me all weekend to do this thread and its not perfect but im getting bored of it :p:D i think ive oiverdone it with the quote function so it might be making my mozilla slower lol

which couple do you prefer 89 votes

ronnie & jack
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phil & shirley
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    SoulStarDreamerSoulStarDreamer Posts: 273
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    EastEnders | Tuesday 10th september | Episode Discussion Thread
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    information taken from DS, walford web , wiki and the ee website

    lame thread title but i thought it was apt to the s/ls in todays ep :p took me all weekend to do this thread and its not perfect but im getting bored of it :p:D i think ive oiverdone it with the quote function so it might be making my mozilla slower lol

    Nice thread Mona! This must have taken some time to do. Nothing lame about the thread title; it fits with the storyline.

    Shirley only has three more episodes :( but I hope this isn't her exit storyline for good. I hope she returns. In my opinion, she has more left to explore, and I was hoping since Dominic Treadwell Collins had created her character, he would have some ideas of where to go with her. I voted for Phil and Shirley in the poll. I think once Shirley forgives herself and Phil and becomes a nicer person, maybe they could get back together, but she has to be strong on her own as well. :)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,133
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    Smashing thread Mona :D

    Only 14.5 hours till show time ;)
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    Nice thread Mona! This must have taken some time to do. Nothing lame about the thread title; it fits with the storyline.

    Shirley only has three more episodes :( but I hope this isn't her exit storyline for good. I hope she returns. In my opinion, she has more left to explore, and I was hoping since Dominic Treadwell Collins had created her character, he would have some ideas of where to go with her. I voted for Phil and Shirley in the poll. I think once Shirley forgives herself and Phil and becomes a nicer person, maybe they could get back together, but she has to be strong on her own as well. :)
    I really think shirley should be given the chance to be a strong woman like she first arrived, similar to ronnie.
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    I really think shirley should be given the chance to be a strong woman like she first arrived, similar to ronnie.

    Then they should keep her away from Phil. Otherwise she looks like a doormat

    Anyway, good thread. Looking forward to tonight's episode
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    Then they should keep her away from Phil. Otherwise she looks like a doormat

    Anyway, good thread. Looking forward to tonight's episode

    Hardly when he has almost gotten himself killed for getting her money and i think if they did it right they could be an equal . She has hated on him a lot,blackmailed him etc i think they would sort the sharon issue out first

    :)
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    Hardly when he has almost gotten himself killed for getting her money and i think if they did it right they could be an equal . She has hated on him a lot,blackmailed him etc i think they would sort the sharon issue out first

    :)

    Can't actually believe you'd want them back together

    He didn't do it cos he loves her but because she was blackmailing him + in her head, she'll always be second best to Sharon.
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    Can't actually believe you'd want them back together

    He didn't do it cos he loves her but because she was blackmailing him + in her head, she'll always be second best to Sharon.
    I think if shirley returns at his and sharons wedding that he couldnt marry sharon knowing shirley is in a bad way. He wouldnt forgive himself if she topped herself over it

    Steve said he did it cos of love it wasnt about the blackmail
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    The_abbottThe_abbott Posts: 26,960
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    of the 4 people in the vote, I only like Phil and Ronnie so I can't choose!
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    The_abbott wrote: »
    of the 4 people in the vote, I only like Phil and Ronnie so I can't choose!

    You could go by best actor, chemistry, storylines etc you dont necessary have to like the characters/couple :)
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    The_abbott wrote: »
    of the 4 people in the vote, I only like Phil and Ronnie so I can't choose!

    Lol same. Its why I havn't voted
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    Thanks for the thread :D
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    doormouse1doormouse1 Posts: 5,431
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    I'm not voting in the poll. I don't think either pairing count as a 'couple' as they are not actually together any more.

    The choice of 'couples' is too narrow. We are not all obsessed with Rack or Phil/Shirley. IMP Phil and Sharon have far more chemistry.
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    doormouse1 wrote: »
    I'm not voting in the poll. I don't think either pairing count as a 'couple' as they are not actually together any more.

    The choice of 'couples' is too narrow. We are not all obsessed with Rack or Phil/Shirley. IMP Phil and Sharon have far more chemistry.

    The thread is based on them hence why they were the choices
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    Thanks but its on at 21:30 in Scotland
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    doormouse1doormouse1 Posts: 5,431
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    The thread is based on them hence why they were the choices

    Doesn't Jack slam the door in Ronnie's face? Hardly a great 'couple.'

    At least Phil gets rid tonight.
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    doormouse1 wrote: »
    Doesn't Jack slam the door in Ronnie's face? Hardly a great 'couple.'

    At least Phil gets rid tonight.

    The spoilers tell a very different story about phil&shirl. Im expecting the scenes to be similar to proposal,really genuine &heartfelt. :)

    Its understandable jack doesnt want to get back with ronnie. But you can hardly say phil and sharon are a great couple after he chucked her out if you compare it to jack shutting ronnie out
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    aspijack wrote: »
    Thanks but its on at 21:30 in Scotland

    Why is that . Just out of interest .
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    los.kavlos.kav Posts: 8,053
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    Great thread, Mona! Loads of info!

    Can't believe Linda only has three more eps left. I hope she's not gone for good.
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    The_abbottThe_abbott Posts: 26,960
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    doormouse1 wrote: »
    Doesn't Jack slam the door in Ronnie's face? Hardly a great 'couple.'

    At least Phil gets rid tonight.

    yeah and I bet 10p that will be the duff duff today.
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    thismorningfanthismorningfan Posts: 1,357
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    Looking forward to Ronnie's first line in two years!
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    Ice dragon1Ice dragon1 Posts: 19,558
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    Evening all thanks for the thread. Looking forward to see Ronnie back in action. :)
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    Ice dragon1Ice dragon1 Posts: 19,558
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    Looking forward to Ronnie's first line in two years!

    I thought it was longer then that.
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    Thanks for the thread :)
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    doormouse1doormouse1 Posts: 5,431
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    The spoilers tell a very different story about phil&shirl. Im expecting the scenes to be similar to proposal,really genuine &heartfelt. :)

    Its understandable jack doesnt want to get back with ronnie. But you can hardly say phil and sharon are a great couple after he chucked her out if you compare it to jack shutting ronnie out

    But surely if he loved Shirley that much, he'd be asking her to stay and either move back in with him or even marry him, not virtually saying 'please b*gger off to Greece with the contents of my safe, and never come back' becaise surely that it what moving on to a new life in Greece should be?'

    It sounds more to me that in a toss-up between having the money back and Shirley, or having Shirley move to another country after cleaning his safe outhe'd let her have the cash in a heartbeat.

    Hardly signs of a great love. How can he love her after she has stolen all the money he has? She is little more than a common thief.

    And if Carl does kill her, persumably he'll take the money anyway.
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    ilovenicnacsilovenicnacs Posts: 43,397
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    Brilliant thread Mona :D

    Loved the Phil and Shirley likes and dislikes and the health issues :D don't know if they were supposed to be humorous, but they made me laugh!
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