The fat awful woman seemed to get away with everything even though a blind person with dark glasses on could see she was right old thieving slag so immersed in casual criminality that she finds it impossible to tell anything other than fat lies.
The cops actually gave this waste of blood some sympathy, have they not been in the job long or something ?
That was staggering.
They seem more concerned with her non existent boyfriend than her who was actually there & obviously caught red handed.
They seem more concerned with her non existent boyfriend than her who was actually there & obviously caught red handed.
The fact that she had a bag of cosmetics on the back seat would not be sufficient evidence in court, they would need to show she had stolen them. Shops like Poundland, Poundstretcher tend to give out flimsy carrier bags with no name on them so it is quite possible they would be put in a better bag and who keeps the receipt when they shop at places like that?
Similarly she would have to be identified as the person who stole the petrol for prosecution particularly as it sounded as if several people could have been driving the car.
The fact that she had a bag of cosmetics on the back seat would not be sufficient evidence in court, they would need to show she had stolen them. Shops like Poundland, Poundstretcher tend to give out flimsy carrier bags with no name on them so it is quite possible they would be put in a better bag and who keeps the receipt when they shop at places like that?
Similarly she would have to be identified as the person who stole the petrol for prosecution particularly as it sounded as if several people could have been driving the car.
Indeed, I always imagine the boot on the other foot.
What if you have a nameless carrier bag of legitimately purchased cosmetics on your back seat when the police pull you over, and then they accuse you of stealing them.
The door swings both ways, to quote Lieutenant Mike Harrigan from Predator 2.
The power to stop
The Act states that the person stopping you must be a police officer in uniform or a traffic officer.
Its section 52 of the 1988 Road Traffic Act part VII and the power to stop a motor vehicle is for a Constable in uniform - doesnt mention traffic officers who would be in uniform anyway and it is a specific offence not to do so. It used to say a Constable in full uniform but so many motorists were getting away in court because the officer stopping them was not wearing his or her her headgear, that the act was amended. All Police Officers are Constables regardless of rank, as it is the office of Constable that gives you the lawfull powers required hence the head of a Police Force being "The Chief Constable"
The power to stop
The Act states that the person stopping you must be a police officer in uniform or a traffic officer.
Its section 52 of the 1988 Road Traffic Act part VII and the power to stop a motor vehicle is for a Constable in uniform - doesnt mention traffic officers who would be in uniform anyway and it is a specific offence not to do so. It used to say a Constable in full uniform but so many motorists were getting away in court because the officer stopping them was not wearing his or her her headgear, that the act was amended. All Police Officers are Constables regardless of rank, as it is the office of Constable that gives you the lawfull powers required hence the head of a Police Force being "The Chief Constable"
I think you are getting confused. It will be referring to Highways Agency Traffic Officers, who have the power to stop vehicles though they will not have any powers to search the vehicle.
Indeed, I always imagine the boot on the other foot.
What if you have a nameless carrier bag of legitimately purchased cosmetics on your back seat when the police pull you over, and then they accuse you of stealing them.
The door swings both ways, to quote Lieutenant Mike Harrigan from Predator 2.
I think there have been examples in the past where people have had goods in the car which are almost certainly stolen but it could not be easily proved so they got off. In this case they might have to trawl through many hours of CCTV footage and get a positive identification before there was any chance of a conviction and it would not be worth it for a few pounds worth of goods.
I think you are getting confused. It will be referring to Highways Agency Traffic Officers, who have the power to stop vehicles though they will not have any powers to search the vehicle.
Actually I'm not. Any Police Officer can stop and search any vehicle. Highways Agency Traffic Officers can stop vehicles at pre planned "stop" sites to do emission tests etc. They are usualy supported by Police Officers to ensure there is no breach of the peace etc.
Loved the behaviour of the bike nicking lout, his street cred ruined by being arrested and stuck in the back of the cop car, he was not pleased being clocked by the gawping bystanders so he felt a hysterical show of stroppiness was what was called for. Hilarious.
Just caught up with this.
Aah, does the ickle hard man want his mumsy?
If I was the policeman, thats what I would want to say, several times, very loudly:p
Actually I'm not. Any Police Officer can stop and search any vehicle. Highways Agency Traffic Officers can stop vehicles at pre planned "stop" sites to do emission tests etc. They are usualy supported by Police Officers to ensure there is no breach of the peace etc.
Sorry I thought someone was confusing 'traffic officer' with a Traffic Plod (Road Policing or whatever else they call them this week), Black Rat or as an ex police friend calls then 'Process Droids'
Loved the behaviour of the bike nicking lout, his street cred ruined by being arrested and stuck in the back of the cop car, he was not pleased being clocked by the gawping bystanders so he felt a hysterical show of stroppiness was what was called for. Hilarious.
A bit of ritual humiliation ,when convicted the local hard men and thieves should be put in stocks in the local shopping centre of a Saturday morning.
A right scumbag he was, on drugs as well i reckon.
That was hilarious when he was banging his head on the car window. I hope he didn't cause any damage......those windows can be quite expensive to replace.
Actually I'm not. Any Police Officer can stop and search any vehicle. Highways Agency Traffic Officers can stop vehicles at pre planned "stop" sites to do emission tests etc. They are usualy supported by Police Officers to ensure there is no breach of the peace etc.
and to further clarify your point...... . HATO can only stop vehicles if they see they have a dangerous load, or similar. The pre-planned stops are with VOSA.
The fact that she had a bag of cosmetics on the back seat would not be sufficient evidence in court, they would need to show she had stolen them. Shops like Poundland, Poundstretcher tend to give out flimsy carrier bags with no name on them so it is quite possible they would be put in a better bag and who keeps the receipt when they shop at places like that?
Similarly she would have to be identified as the person who stole the petrol for prosecution particularly as it sounded as if several people could have been driving the car.
Why did they not do the obvious thing & check the items to see if (for example) were "Asda" brand, or something that was not sold in "Poundstretcher", would have been easy to check, surely.
Why did they not do the obvious thing & check the items to see if (for example) were "Asda" brand, or something that was not sold in "Poundstretcher", would have been easy to check, surely.
I would not have thought that would be sufficient evidence for a prosecution. It is up to the police to show they are stolen not to the person to prove they bought them legitimately.
Just saw it tonight, how heartbreaking for him to loose his family members one by one like that. Unlike so much of the human garbage in that programme, he was a real man.
and to further clarify your point...... . HATO can only stop vehicles if they see they have a dangerous load, or similar. The pre-planned stops are with VOSA.
I drove 200 miles on the M1 yesterday, I saw a VOSA Focus escorting a flat back truck off at Hemel Hempstead - mini excavator tied on the truck with one bit of webbing - and NO police whatsoever.
And VED will be managed by Police and ANPR when the tax disc goes this year? I wonder how that will work.
Pretty sure it wasn't a new episode this week. It's been on BBC1 before, last year.
According to the Yorkshire Roads Policing Unit twitter feed it is new as they had to wait for a coroners report to be finalised before it was allowed to air.
According to the Yorkshire Roads Policing Unit twitter feed it is new as they had to wait for a coroners report to be finalised before it was allowed to air.
I drove 200 miles on the M1 yesterday, I saw a VOSA Focus escorting a flat back truck off at Hemel Hempstead - mini excavator tied on the truck with one bit of webbing - and NO police whatsoever.
Yes, VOSA have been given the authority now to stop vehicles themselves for checks and testing, without police being required. Not sure whether all forces have done this yet, or if its just some of them (its one of those powers that a chief constable can delegate, similar to giving different powers to PCSOs for instance).
I have to say that foreign artic drivers at roundabouts are lethal, they are on the wrong side to see oncoming traffic and seem to think that give way to the left still applies as I have had several just pull straight out across me - A127/M25 in particular.
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That was staggering.
They seem more concerned with her non existent boyfriend than her who was actually there & obviously caught red handed.
The fact that she had a bag of cosmetics on the back seat would not be sufficient evidence in court, they would need to show she had stolen them. Shops like Poundland, Poundstretcher tend to give out flimsy carrier bags with no name on them so it is quite possible they would be put in a better bag and who keeps the receipt when they shop at places like that?
Similarly she would have to be identified as the person who stole the petrol for prosecution particularly as it sounded as if several people could have been driving the car.
Indeed, I always imagine the boot on the other foot.
What if you have a nameless carrier bag of legitimately purchased cosmetics on your back seat when the police pull you over, and then they accuse you of stealing them.
The door swings both ways, to quote Lieutenant Mike Harrigan from Predator 2.
The Act states that the person stopping you must be a police officer in uniform or a traffic officer.
Its section 52 of the 1988 Road Traffic Act part VII and the power to stop a motor vehicle is for a Constable in uniform - doesnt mention traffic officers who would be in uniform anyway and it is a specific offence not to do so. It used to say a Constable in full uniform but so many motorists were getting away in court because the officer stopping them was not wearing his or her her headgear, that the act was amended. All Police Officers are Constables regardless of rank, as it is the office of Constable that gives you the lawfull powers required hence the head of a Police Force being "The Chief Constable"
I think you are getting confused. It will be referring to Highways Agency Traffic Officers, who have the power to stop vehicles though they will not have any powers to search the vehicle.
I think there have been examples in the past where people have had goods in the car which are almost certainly stolen but it could not be easily proved so they got off. In this case they might have to trawl through many hours of CCTV footage and get a positive identification before there was any chance of a conviction and it would not be worth it for a few pounds worth of goods.
Actually I'm not. Any Police Officer can stop and search any vehicle. Highways Agency Traffic Officers can stop vehicles at pre planned "stop" sites to do emission tests etc. They are usualy supported by Police Officers to ensure there is no breach of the peace etc.
Just caught up with this.
Aah, does the ickle hard man want his mumsy?
If I was the policeman, thats what I would want to say, several times, very loudly:p
Don't be mean... poor little man probably has ADHD, ADD, hyperactivity and his dad didn't buy him a lolly when he was 7.:rolleyes:
Sorry I thought someone was confusing 'traffic officer' with a Traffic Plod (Road Policing or whatever else they call them this week), Black Rat or as an ex police friend calls then 'Process Droids'
That was hilarious when he was banging his head on the car window. I hope he didn't cause any damage......those windows can be quite expensive to replace.
What a complete knobhead!
and to further clarify your point...... . HATO can only stop vehicles if they see they have a dangerous load, or similar. The pre-planned stops are with VOSA.
Why did they not do the obvious thing & check the items to see if (for example) were "Asda" brand, or something that was not sold in "Poundstretcher", would have been easy to check, surely.
I would not have thought that would be sufficient evidence for a prosecution. It is up to the police to show they are stolen not to the person to prove they bought them legitimately.
I drove 200 miles on the M1 yesterday, I saw a VOSA Focus escorting a flat back truck off at Hemel Hempstead - mini excavator tied on the truck with one bit of webbing - and NO police whatsoever.
And VED will be managed by Police and ANPR when the tax disc goes this year? I wonder how that will work.
The episode that was on BBC3 last night was a repeat of a new episode shown earlier in the week on BBC1.
I think they have been doing that for all of the current series.
What day is it on BBC1?
Pretty sure it wasn't a new episode this week. It's been on BBC1 before, last year.
Yes, VOSA have been given the authority now to stop vehicles themselves for checks and testing, without police being required. Not sure whether all forces have done this yet, or if its just some of them (its one of those powers that a chief constable can delegate, similar to giving different powers to PCSOs for instance).