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global giving the bloke from JLS (THATS SHOW BIZ) and the bloke from TOWIE and all other so called tv celebs presenting jobs on radio is just another way of killing off radio in this country...listening to them is quite mind boggling..self indulgent crap.....any thoughts......radio presenting used to be an art...what has happened to Richard Park,he used to be the best radio man around,now....sad.
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Vanessa Feltz, Dermot O'Leary, Jenni Falconer, Jason Donavan
Global have lost the plot, outside breakfast they only want 'nobody' DJ's to play 45 minute music sweeps with minimal talk unless they employ z list celebrities. They've got Marvin from JLS, Mark Wright, Jenny Falconer, Emma Bunton, Jason Donovan, Stephen Mulhern and Emma Willis all on board at Capital and Heart.
Capital have filled their schedules with unrecognisable names whereas we used to have London known household names.
Vanessa Feltz and Dermot O Leary are mentioned above but they've both been doing radio for many years and are now accomplished radio people.
Heart is a joke, it's the radio version of Take A Break magazine and Capital has just morphed into Kiss.
The highlighted ones are tv celebrities. Who think they good at radio
Michael buble is another good host for Christmas, but then again he cant do anything wrong
the problem is that a lot of us are trying to get into the industry and it doesn't help how radio has changed.
They are TV people, just like Anneka Rice, Clare Balding and French & Saunders. If you take off your Radio 2 rose-tinted glasses you'll see that they are doing exactly the same as Heart by employing TV presenters at the weekend.
Meanwhile one of Britain's best radio presenters, Charlotte Green, has just joined Global's Classic FM.
I'm afraid life moves on and things change.
That just says to me you know next to nothing about Clare Balding.
Graham Norton is a perfect choice for the show he does. And it's not as if he's completely alien to the entertainment side of radio, you're probably just going through the schedules and picking out names you know "off the telly".
She started on 5 Live (and still commentates on Wimbledon) but that hardly makes her a time-served DJ for a Radio 2 breakfast show.
Clare was selected for Sunday breakfast because of the publicity surrounding her presenting on TV for the Olympics & Paralympics.
That doesn't mean it's the wrong decision, I was responding to the suggestion that only Heart & Capital hire celebrity names to generate publicity, when Radio 2 clearly do it as well.
I think it's only us with a strong interest in radio who separate "radio people" from "TV people".
People I know who consume radio normally separate such personalities on the radio between people they like to listen to and people they don't. They don't care whether the person has been brought in from TOWIE or whether they've done a Moyles or Mills and moved through the ranks.
I know a Radio 2 listener who has been equally annoyed by Patrick Kielty when he was in for Steve Wright as they were by Richard Allinson filling in.
At any rate it's a blurry line who is a radio person. Iain Lee started his media career doing Horizon's Black Thunder, Dermot O'Leary worked behind the scenes at BBC Essex, Jamie Theakston did sport reporting for GLR, Toby Anstis worked on hospital radio - all before getting their TV jobs which made their name. Yet by the definition some people give they wouldn't be regarded as radio people.
Not at all, but thats all he is, a chat show host of the tele, and someone thought we'd chuck him on radio
Vanessa started as a journalist and had shows on GLR and Talk Radio before going into TV. Similarly, Dermot O'Leary started at Essex Radio and used to have a show on XFM. So I'd say they both have a decent radio pedigree.
Take a Break's a very successful magazine.
If I was in charge of anything which had to make money, I'd love it to be the x equivalent of Take a Break.
Thank you, the exact point I was trying to get across before being accused if having Radio 2 'rose tinted glasses'
Vanessa and Dermot do not deserve to have their names thrown into the same hat as the likes of Marvin, Mark Wright and Jenny Falconer.
For the record I don't like Vanessa or Dermot on Radio 2 but they have a pedigree in radio and that needed to be recognised.
Either way, even if he had no experience of a desk and a mic before Radio 2, doesn't everyone have to start somewhere? That's like saying you shouldn't be given a job in Sainsburys because you've never worked in a Supermarket before.
Dermot, Vanessa, Graham Norton, Alan Carr...at the end of the day, they're all accomplished presenters in their own right. If Steve Wright suddenly started presenting a chat show on Channel 5 each afternoon, does he become a 'TV person' and lose his right to present on the radio?
Also the general opinion on here is that Marvin as actually quite good. I agree.
Why is being on the radio so exclusive that you have to have started on overnights on hospital radio in order to do it. Anyone who has something entertaining to say and understands the medium can do it. It's really not that hard if you're already a tv presenter.
Starting out on hospital radio/ living months on ship giving the comfort of home used to be a way' paying your dues' and working your up , like in any work environment , learn your craft on the way up .
If I'm listening to music radio , I expect the presenter to informative of the music that they are playing along with being respectful of that music , that would entertaining to the music listener .
However , if I want speech radio , then I would expect to listen to a speech radio station , then the presenter can talk as much as they want .
Having people off the telly talking all over the music is disrespectful to people that are attempting to enjoy listening to music and , it is a disrespectful move to radio station management to appoint people who are have no interest in the music , but talking rubbish all over the music
I think sometimes that some would like a closed shop and any radio presenter to be a time served member of the Amalgamated Union of Radio Presenters and DJs! I am sure that I am not alone in disliking many of the 'professional' long term presenters / DJs and much prefer a bit of variety.
I've written to him (I'm sure he can read quite well !) asking if he'll consider some of my own favourites - Basil Brush would be excellent on a Sunday afternoon doing requests for the gushy wannabe showiz second XI types (and he could always read some news bulletins now that they've got rid of their few decent continuity / news people) and 'The Krankies', who I feel would energise the swing jock area with a much needed breath of fresh air and witty banter. Also, given that 'The Krankies' have actually spent a long time working as professional entertainers, I'm sure they'd know more about most things that the coterie of girly types who currently tick the boxes come DJ holiday time on the basis that their dad was on the telly, or that their mummy used to be the editor of the Sunday Express (although I'm sure that's just coincidence).
I can't wait for his reply !