Hollyoaks: Wasn't Texas Dodger's first true love?
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A small thing but this really bugged me on Friday's E4 episode. Dodger told Maxine that she is his first true love. What about Texas? Rubbish continuity there and also this whole business of Dodger being Nico's dad is ridiculous too.
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I agree. Surely they could have found a better way of getting it in? Even a bit of a joke about him being such a ladies' man might have prompted a discussion.
Dodger being Nico's dad...purely done for the shock factor and because they don't have to bother with character exploration. The only plus-side is that it redeems Patrick slightly, even if it taints Dodger and Sienna.
He was telling Maxine of his history of his girlfriends as she asked, Sienna stood out to him because there was something 'there' which was actually a genetic link.
Doesn't deflect anything from Texas since he only met Sienna once and was with Texas in a relationship.
I meant he told Maxine that SHE is his first love. I didn't mean Sienna was his first love. Texas was meant to be the one he truly fell for but this seems to have been forgotten.
There was never any Texas.
Oh that one who fell out of a window oh well that was over a year ago no one who watches hollyoaks can remember that far back.
But not unlike how Ste never mentions Brendan, Carmel never mentions Jim, Mercedes and Mal, JP and Craig, Tony and Jacqui, viewers are no longer supposed to remember character's histories beyond two weeks prior.
The show has got into this dreadful habit of trying to make the current romance/agenda they're pushing the only one that matters at the expense of continuity or character's established histories. The line is absolutely laughable considering that his relationship with Texas defined Dodger's first two years on the show. She was a dreadful actress and they weren't a great couple BUT they did have a fanbase and they were in love. That is fact. To say that Maxine is his first true love is stupid at best, and at worst - insulting.
It's not different to Tony pledging his love to Diane last year, with the show going as far to engineer that AWFUL childhood meeting between them to make them seem 'better' or more 'in love' than any other pairing when mere months prior, he was in love with Jacqui - something we saw develop onscreen over years.
I thought Dodger and Texas were believable. They were the eternal on/off couple, who had strong feelings for each other but could never actually be together because they had little similarity. Similar to Anna/Miles in This Life; an actual long-term relationship would never have worked. I think Dodger and Texas were quite identifiable as people whose passion couldn't translate into a relationship.
I don't buy into Maxine and Dodger at all. She had the fling but didn't seem particularly invested in that; she seemed to have stronger feelings towards Patrick. I missed a few episodes so I don't know why Maxine and Dodger ever got together at all, apart from the whole 'It's Dodger' thing. I think it's a little seedy that Maxine has shacked up with her husband's son. It would have been better if she raised the baby on her own, with emotional support from Dennis and Blessing. I felt that Dennis cared a lot more about her than Dodger.
I think it's crazy she'd shack up with Dodger, as she's repeatedly shown that she doesn't trust him and he's shown that he doesn't trust her, even though neither of them have a particularly strong reason not to trust each other. Patrick gaslighted Maxine and he thought that Maxine had drugged him, so there's every reason for them not to trust each other.
I would like to see Patrick actually confront his abuse issues or have Maxine encourage him to sort them. She knows about Anna and Sienna so hopefully once things have cooled down, she might get him to get help.
I can see why she might not want him near the baby seeing as he treats it as if the baby is going to be a freak but she doesn't know about Patrick hitting Sienna so she might think the abuse is limited to her. Does she even know that he hit and maybe drugged Anna? Maxine might just think it's an issue he has with her.
That is exactly what I thought he was going to say: 'I haven't felt this way since Texas' Instead we got 'I haven't felt like this before'
It's silly that they think we forget about past going ons and relationships. I actually really liked Texas and Dodger together and thought they had the chemistry. Maxine and Dodger is not as believable and it all seems to have been created to get this Sienna obsession with Dodger going.
I agree. There was never a vibe between them apart from the obvious twin bond. Just because both of them were good-looking, people thought there'd be a repeat of Nat and Georgia, which was certainly more likely than the chance encounter conveniently forgotten by Sienna. However after putting Dodger with Maxine and knowing that Dodger was a popular character, they probably didn't want to go down that route because of the moral outrage that the Brookside storyline got. So they got around it by making it accidental, therefore not so bad; in the way that if I accidentally ran someone over, I've still killed them but it's better than if I drove the car at them. Dodger and Sienna still committed incest even if they didn't realise, as well as the already dubious decision to have casual underage sex.
I still don't buy Sienna's obsession with Dodger as her subconsciously knowing that he's the father. She wasn't 'obsessed' with him until recently and even then, it was basically an incestuous version of her persuing Darren.
I think that the large group of people who still believe they're going to twist it so that it's Patrick are misguided, even if they simply further back up the idea that the storyline isn't believable or dark enough for them. The whole point of making it Dodger was so they'd avoid having to make it Patrick and thus raising moral issues. Here, they can have the scandal without needing to look too deeply into it.
I've rewatched old episodes and there's no definite confirmation that there was any sexual abuse, even though they clearly have an unhealthily close relationship and we know that there was certainly mental abuse. At the time they could have simply been talking about the secret baby, until the makers realised that this simply wasn't dark enough and so they'd have to go one better.
I have a question slightly off topic... how is nico living with sienna? There has been no mention of her adopted mum or anybody questioning how she is suddenly living with her? Surely she is not legally responsible for her?
Maybe Patrick bought Nico off the woman, or convinced her to let Nico stay with him. As far as she knows, Patrick is a really great chap and I don't think the adoptive mother knows Sienna's mad.
I'm sure Sienna wouldn't be able to get custody, though Patrick might.
But then we've had so many people living with the Osbornes who aren't actually relations that I suppose we just have to go along with this one.
Your guess is as good as mine. First they started Nico out that she was adopted by a police family which is why Patrick had photos of her as a young child. Then that other woman had her and Nico's name was Caroline and now Nico's given the impression that she grew up in a care home so I literally have no idea how Sienna now has her living with her given her past history with no questions asked.
It's his unborn sister's mother not brother and in answer to your question no, nobody seems bothered even though it's obviously weird.