Dire rating for Life Stories, it's lowest ever rating for a Friday 9pm episode. That includes +1 too and was a BGT judge! Proof yet again of the Itv weekly reach crisis, no way would it have rated that low one year ago in the same slot against the same competition.
Seriously, who would be bothered to watch Alesha Dixon's life story. She is only 30 and not that interesting. She was popular for a while after she won Strictly but not anymore.
Wonder what this will involve or when it will air. I know that Celebrity Survivor thing was rumoured but it could be something else as surely we'd have heard more about it if celebrities were involved?
I notice Bear Grylls is on Piers Morgan's Life Stories in a couple of weeks too. I bet he'll pop up on a couple of other things too as ITV introduce him to the channel before a possibly big series launches.
Isn't that just I'm a Celeb with another word for immunity.
Boomers and Big school need to swap around, Big School was very very funny last night with cheeky comedy, well two cheeky comedy from Mr Malick of Holby., Big School is a better than average show so ratings disappointing.
Big School dropped last series. This is its ratings level. They need to try sitcoms away from Fridays.
So how do you explain New Tricks being down compared to last year? In The Club is solid but can't get over 5m in overnights. Some unimpressive ratings all round apart from Bake Off.
Give it a rest everything is down on all of the channels.
New tricks is down because of a few reasons: 1. natural viewer fatigue after 11 series, 2. huge cast changes which havent gone down well, 3. tougher competition, 4. a more difficult slot [monday 9pm is more difficult for bbc1 than tuesday 9pm]. In the Club has at least risen in the ratings and has been solid.
Not everything on BBC One is down to the same extent as Itv. In fact if you look at the most recent BARB week, BBC One's weekly share was up 1% compared to the same week last year! So if anything, viewers are watching BBC One more. DIY SOS is rating well, Our Zoo done solid, Countryfile is still doing well, Who Do You Think You Are isnt down from last year. There are still plenty of shows on the channel in peak time at the moment rating similar to previous years if not higher. There are a few shows doing bad but it's not like Itv1 where nearly everything which has returned this year has been down yoy in the ratings.
Seriously, who would be bothered to watch Alesha Dixon's life story. She is only 30 and not that interesting. She was popular for a while after she won Strictly but not anymore.
Life stories has been dying a slow death for the last 2 years .
Firstly Alesha Dixon is nearly 36. Secondly, a BGT judge episode should not be rating that low. Let me reiterate, that was the show's lowest ever rating for a Friday 9pm episode [when not facing a telethon]! Last year episodes featuring people like Britt Ekland, Karen Brady were getting over 3million viewers. Theres no reason why Dixon should be rating in the low 2s really, besides the fact there is a weekly reach problem going on at the moment hampering the channel's ratings.
Boomers is still falling; I wonder if it's found a level now but it's a very low one regardless. The first two episodes added about +18% each in timeshift so we're looking at around 3.4m as a final figure for last night's, maybe not even enough for BBC One's BARB top 30.
Soaps here. Good to see EastEnders over 6m on a Friday.
Coronation Street brings in 6.5m with Tyrone's discovery
EastEnders running Coro very close for a Friday night, only 0.3million in it. Typically last year and the year before, Coro would be about 1-2m ahead of EE on Fridays. Just proves one of two things: 1. EE is closing the gap well, 2. Coro has lost a lot of viewers in the last year.
New tricks is down because of a few reasons: 1. natural viewer fatigue after 11 series, 2. huge cast changes which havent gone down well, 3. tougher competition, 4. a more difficult slot [monday 9pm is more difficult for bbc1 than tuesday 9pm]. In the Club has at least risen in the ratings and has been solid.
Not everything on BBC One is down to the same extent as Itv. In fact if you look at the most recent BARB week, BBC One's weekly share was up 1% compared to the same week last year! So if anything, viewers are watching BBC One more. DIY SOS is rating well, Our Zoo done solid, Countryfile is still doing well, Who Do You Think You Are isnt down from last year. There are still plenty of shows on the channel in peak time at the moment rating similar to previous years if not higher. There are a few shows doing bad but it's not like Itv1 where nearly everything which has returned this year has been down yoy in the ratings.
Perhaps those programmes are something to do with the OAP audience that is mentioned a lot. Those programmes are background programmes in most cases. Why are critically acclaimed programmes such as Doctor Who down? Our Zoo was not a rating success.
Saturday nights with the lottery programme and Tumble are poor and can't compete with ITV.
What about BBC 2 dating crisis ? Where have all if the critically acclaimed comedy and documentaries that used to get 3 million just / years ago ?
Not everything on BBC One is down to the same extent as Itv. In fact if you look at the most recent BARB week, BBC One's weekly share was up 1% compared to the same week last year! So if anything, viewers are watching BBC One more.
You know this sort of stuff doesn't make sense. Commenting on low ratings but then saying share is up, yet you continue to do it. You know if only 1m were watching TV, shares would stay ok.
This sort of inaccurate reporting may work in your other thread where you've got a baying audience looking for one liners, but it doesn't work here.
Firstly Alesha Dixon is nearly 36. Secondly, a BGT judge episode should not be rating that low. Let me reiterate, that was the show's lowest ever rating for a Friday 9pm episode [when not facing a telethon]! Last year episodes featuring people like Britt Ekland, Karen Brady were getting over 3million viewers. Theres no reason why Dixon should be rating in the low 2s really, besides the fact there is a weekly reach problem going on at the moment hampering the channel's ratings.
Well, she looks good for her age then. Karen Brady and Britt Ekland would interest a wider age range of people. Alesha Dixon is a recent celebrity from a girl group who got lucky when she won Strictly and became a judge. Seriously we know her life story already.
Perhaps those programmes are something to do with the OAP audience that is mentioned a lot. Those programmes are background programmes in most cases. Why are critically acclaimed programmes such as Doctor Who down? Our Zoo was not a rating success.
It is no secret that the OAP audience are more loyal to BBC One than any other channel. The channel's average age has increased from 53 to 59 in the last 5 years, so the viewers being loyal to the channel are elderly. But BBC One has made themselves into that kind of position by working hard, it wasn't always like that. Itv used to have huge loyalty among pensioners which would boost their ratings figures which isnt really the case anymore. Doctor Who is rating in the same kind of mid 7s official rating area as previous series. Our Zoo rated slightly lower than expected but nothing to be too concerned about.
Saturday nights with the lottery programme and Tumble are poor and can't compete with ITV.
youre right the lottery show didnt do well against xf but they dont normally and the one airing right now is the weakest one bbc1 has. Tumble didnt dio well for its most recent episode, true.
What about BBC 2 dating crisis ? Where have all if the critically acclaimed comedy and documentaries that used to get 3 million just / years ago ?
The thing with BBC2 is that the spotlight on their ratings is not as big. So it doesnt really matter as long as theyre holding up ok. BARB data proves they are up year on year, so firstly that is a great thing they are improving. And secondly, if BBC Two do have a hit, BBC One tend to snatch it to grow that show and it's easy for BBC One to grab already made hits from BBC2 to get high ratings on the main channel. What this means sometimes is that BBC2 takes a slight hit in the ratings. But creatively the channel is still strong, and the statistics prove that their ratings share is up from 2013.
New tricks like every thing which was once very popular is coming to the end of its lifespan. It's aired for 11 series which is a fantastic run, it may get 1 or 2 series more. The good thing the BBC has done is nurture and bring through new hit dramas in the last few years such as Death in Paradise, Last Tango in Halifax, Happy Valley, Call The Midwife and so on. That means once New tricks is finally axed, they still have plenty of high rating dramas on the channel and its absence wont be too noticeable in the schedules. The BBC have thought about the long term and rather resting on their laurels by airing the same old shows all the time and 2-3 part dramas, theyve actively been investing in new returnable 6 part dramas. And it is starting to pay off, even with the oldguard hits going away from their schedules such as Hustle/Spooks/Waking The Dead etc, they have plenty of new hits to come through to replace them. That's a good position to be in. Some other channels dont have many new hit returnable dramas coming through because they are not investing much into it, rather focussing on minor 2 part dramas.
Isn't Last Tango supposed to be ending after this series? There's nothing wrong with 2-3 parters necessarily as they do keep rating well so as long as they keep doing so then job done, but it would be nice to see ITV try a few more 6 parters. Hopefully Grantchester does well this Autumn and gives them some encouragement. To be fair in the past 4 years they've launched Downton Abbey, Broadchurch, Endeavour, Scott & Bailey, Mr Selfridge, DCI Banks, Vera and so on, all of which do at least 6 hours per series and often more and all bank official figures of 6m+ (I say hours as Vera and Endeavour only do 4 episodes but obviously they're 2 hours each). Indeed DCI Banks was originally one of those 2 parters that you don't like, but they fleshed it out to a series. They did the same for Whitechapel which they got a couple of decent runs out of before it turned sour.
I agree they haven't launched enough new returnable drama this year. I think Grantchester and Chasing Shadows will be the only ones (I class Edge of Heaven as a comedy) although weren't there rumours of another series of Prey? 2013 was fine though, they launched Mr Selfridge, Broadchurch, Love & Marriage and Breathless and 2 of them did very well and got renewed and 2 of them didn't and got cancelled. So far only Home Fires has been announced for 2015 but hopefully they'll do one or two more and hopefully Jekyll & Hyde launches in 2015 too. They do have a lot of returning drama in 2015 (Broadchurch, Foyle's War, Vera, DCI Banks, Midsomer Murders, Endeavour in the first half of the year and then in the second half Doc Martin, Downton Abbey and potentially Lewis, Scott & Bailey and Grantchester depending on how they do this time and schedules for the cast & crew). Squeezing in lots of new 6 parters amongst all that will be difficult.
Boomers is still falling; I wonder if it's found a level now but it's a very low one regardless. The first two episodes added about +18% each in timeshift so we're looking at around 3.4m as a final figure for last night's, maybe not even enough for BBC One's BARB top 30.
Not much of a level to be at for a primetime sitcom, poor rating for Boomers. Big School has had another chance and failed.
Well, she looks good for her age then. Karen Brady and Britt Ekland would interest a wider age range of people. Alesha Dixon is a recent celebrity from a girl group who got lucky when she won Strictly and became a judge. Seriously we know her life story already.
To be fair in the past 4 years they've launched Downton Abbey, Broadchurch, Endeavour, Scott & Bailey, Mr Selfridge, DCI Banks, Vera and so on, all of which do at least 6 hours per series and often more and all bank official figures of 6m+ (I say hours as Vera and Endeavour only do 4 episodes but obviously they're 2 hours each).
The dramas I mentioned were all 5m+ overnighting shows. I dont think Mr Selfridge or even Endeavour overnight over 5m these days.
hopefully Jekyll & Hyde launches in 2015 too.
I dont think either Jekyll and Hyde or Beowulf will it until late 2015 at the earliest, probably 2016. If theyre 13 episode series, it'd take 7 months alone to film and then another couple of months for post-production. There's no indication either are starting to film any time soon.
They do have a lot of returning drama in 2015 (Broadchurch, Foyle's War, Vera, DCI Banks, Midsomer Murders, Endeavour in the first half of the year and then in the second half Doc Martin, Downton Abbey and potentially Lewis, Scott & Bailey and Grantchester depending on how they do this time and schedules for the cast & crew). Squeezing in lots of new 6 parters amongst all that will be difficult.
The thing is.. is 2-4 new returning drama launches per year an acceptable number? Even bearing in mind they have these returning dramas, they should be doing more. Here's the number of new drama launches [6+hours] Itv has done in recent years:
2008 - 6 dramas- The Fixer, Echo Beach, Rock Rivals, Britannia High, The Palace, Harlety Street
2009 - 4 dramas - Law and Order Uk, Demons, Monday Monday, Single Handed
2010 - 4 dramas - Married Single other, downton abbey, Identity, The prisoner
2011 - 3 dramas - Scott and Bailey, monroe, Vera
2012 - 2 dramas - Eternal law, Homefront
2013 - 4 dramas - Broadchurch, Mr Selfridge, Love and Marriage, Breathless
2014 - 2 dramas - Edge of Heaven, Granchester
= 25 dramas
Look at that trend of decline - besides 2013 which had solid investment. Some would even argue that Edge of Heaven isnt a drama, which would mean just 1 new drama with 6hours this year on the channel. Why has in just 6 years, Itv reduced investment in new potentially returning dramas from 6 to just one?! Especially given that they no longer have the FA Cup from this season onwards, they should be saving money and using that money to reinvest in drama.
Compare to BBC One and the number of new 6+ hour drama launches theyve done in the same period:
2008 - 7 dramas - Ashes to Ashes, Lark Rise, Merlin, Apparitinos, Bonekicker, Survivors, mistresses
2009 - 5 dramas - All The Small Things, Hope Springs, Casualty 1909, Number 1 Detectives, Paradox
2010 - 3 dramas - Luther, Material Girl, The Accused
2011 - 5 dramas - Silk, Death in Paradise, Body Farm, Outcasts, Case Histories
2012 - 5 dramas - Last Tango in Halifax, Syndicate, Prisoenrs Wives, Hunted, The Paradise
2013 - 7 dramas - Ripper Street, Village, Frankie, The White Queen, By Any Means, Truckers, Atlantis
2014 - 6 dramas - Happy Valley, Crimson Field, Our Zoo, In The Club, Musketeers, The Passing Bells
= 38 dramas
Look how well BBC One has invested in new dramas in comparison. There was a little blip in 2010 but last year and this year, they've invested just as much into new dramas as 2008. And way more than Itv, as you can see the gap is increasing. This is even though BBC One already has plenty of hit returning dramas anyway. But the BBC's strategy of launching lots of new dramas is working and does pay off. Even if 50pct of the dramas succeed and 50pct flop, that means there's about 3 new drama hits per year returning again which helps the schedules out going forward. What good is it if youre launching just one or two new dramas per year as Itv are doing?! It's basically a waste of a year.
Home and Away: 156k (2.4%)
Neighbours: 649k (10.0%)
Neighbours: 694k (5.5%)
Home and Away: 529k (3.5%)
5* Home and Away: 373k (2.4%)
Doctors: 1.24m (19.3%)
That's a good figure for EE there wasn't expecting it to be over 6mil on a Friday. It seems the new trailer is helping as it looks fantastic whats coming up.
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Seriously, who would be bothered to watch Alesha Dixon's life story. She is only 30 and not that interesting. She was popular for a while after she won Strictly but not anymore.
Any news on how the soaps did?
Big School dropped last series. This is its ratings level. They need to try sitcoms away from Fridays.
Not everything on BBC One is down to the same extent as Itv. In fact if you look at the most recent BARB week, BBC One's weekly share was up 1% compared to the same week last year! So if anything, viewers are watching BBC One more. DIY SOS is rating well, Our Zoo done solid, Countryfile is still doing well, Who Do You Think You Are isnt down from last year. There are still plenty of shows on the channel in peak time at the moment rating similar to previous years if not higher. There are a few shows doing bad but it's not like Itv1 where nearly everything which has returned this year has been down yoy in the ratings.
Soaps here. Good to see EastEnders over 6m on a Friday.
Coronation Street brings in 6.5m with Tyrone's discovery
Coronation Street was Friday's top-rated soap (September 5) with more fallout from Tyrone Dobbs's accident, overnight figures show.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3/coronation-street/news/a595008/coronation-street-brings-in-65m-with-tyrones-discovery.html
What's the chances when one of these finishes and they just stick on a repeat of Mrs Brown, the ratings shoot up!
A chart if top 10 comedy shows this year would not make good reading.
Sources: ronant, DS, Broadcast magazine
Boomers is still falling; I wonder if it's found a level now but it's a very low one regardless. The first two episodes added about +18% each in timeshift so we're looking at around 3.4m as a final figure for last night's, maybe not even enough for BBC One's BARB top 30.
Perhaps those programmes are something to do with the OAP audience that is mentioned a lot. Those programmes are background programmes in most cases. Why are critically acclaimed programmes such as Doctor Who down? Our Zoo was not a rating success.
Saturday nights with the lottery programme and Tumble are poor and can't compete with ITV.
What about BBC 2 dating crisis ? Where have all if the critically acclaimed comedy and documentaries that used to get 3 million just / years ago ?
This sort of inaccurate reporting may work in your other thread where you've got a baying audience looking for one liners, but it doesn't work here.
Well, she looks good for her age then. Karen Brady and Britt Ekland would interest a wider age range of people. Alesha Dixon is a recent celebrity from a girl group who got lucky when she won Strictly and became a judge. Seriously we know her life story already.
youre right the lottery show didnt do well against xf but they dont normally and the one airing right now is the weakest one bbc1 has. Tumble didnt dio well for its most recent episode, true.
The thing with BBC2 is that the spotlight on their ratings is not as big. So it doesnt really matter as long as theyre holding up ok. BARB data proves they are up year on year, so firstly that is a great thing they are improving. And secondly, if BBC Two do have a hit, BBC One tend to snatch it to grow that show and it's easy for BBC One to grab already made hits from BBC2 to get high ratings on the main channel. What this means sometimes is that BBC2 takes a slight hit in the ratings. But creatively the channel is still strong, and the statistics prove that their ratings share is up from 2013.
Isn't Last Tango supposed to be ending after this series? There's nothing wrong with 2-3 parters necessarily as they do keep rating well so as long as they keep doing so then job done, but it would be nice to see ITV try a few more 6 parters. Hopefully Grantchester does well this Autumn and gives them some encouragement. To be fair in the past 4 years they've launched Downton Abbey, Broadchurch, Endeavour, Scott & Bailey, Mr Selfridge, DCI Banks, Vera and so on, all of which do at least 6 hours per series and often more and all bank official figures of 6m+ (I say hours as Vera and Endeavour only do 4 episodes but obviously they're 2 hours each). Indeed DCI Banks was originally one of those 2 parters that you don't like, but they fleshed it out to a series. They did the same for Whitechapel which they got a couple of decent runs out of before it turned sour.
I agree they haven't launched enough new returnable drama this year. I think Grantchester and Chasing Shadows will be the only ones (I class Edge of Heaven as a comedy) although weren't there rumours of another series of Prey? 2013 was fine though, they launched Mr Selfridge, Broadchurch, Love & Marriage and Breathless and 2 of them did very well and got renewed and 2 of them didn't and got cancelled. So far only Home Fires has been announced for 2015 but hopefully they'll do one or two more and hopefully Jekyll & Hyde launches in 2015 too. They do have a lot of returning drama in 2015 (Broadchurch, Foyle's War, Vera, DCI Banks, Midsomer Murders, Endeavour in the first half of the year and then in the second half Doc Martin, Downton Abbey and potentially Lewis, Scott & Bailey and Grantchester depending on how they do this time and schedules for the cast & crew). Squeezing in lots of new 6 parters amongst all that will be difficult.
I don't think they would rate much better.
Emmerdale: 5.24m (30.6%) / 5.38m (31.4%)
Coronation Street: 6.48m (34.6%) / 6.67m (35.6%)
EastEnders: 6.08m (30.9%), +2.5: 287k [= 6.37m]
Coronation Street: 6.34m (31.3%) / 6.53m (32.3%)
C4 Hollyoaks: 813k (5.1%)
E4 Hollyoaks: 713k (4.2%) / 824k (4.9%)
Home and Away: 156k (2.4%)
Neighbours: 649k (10.0%)
Neighbours: 694k (5.5%)
Home and Away: 529k (3.5%)
5* Home and Away: 373k (2.4%)
Doctors: 1.24m (19.3%)
I dont think either Jekyll and Hyde or Beowulf will it until late 2015 at the earliest, probably 2016. If theyre 13 episode series, it'd take 7 months alone to film and then another couple of months for post-production. There's no indication either are starting to film any time soon.
The thing is.. is 2-4 new returning drama launches per year an acceptable number? Even bearing in mind they have these returning dramas, they should be doing more. Here's the number of new drama launches [6+hours] Itv has done in recent years:
2008 - 6 dramas- The Fixer, Echo Beach, Rock Rivals, Britannia High, The Palace, Harlety Street
2009 - 4 dramas - Law and Order Uk, Demons, Monday Monday, Single Handed
2010 - 4 dramas - Married Single other, downton abbey, Identity, The prisoner
2011 - 3 dramas - Scott and Bailey, monroe, Vera
2012 - 2 dramas - Eternal law, Homefront
2013 - 4 dramas - Broadchurch, Mr Selfridge, Love and Marriage, Breathless
2014 - 2 dramas - Edge of Heaven, Granchester
= 25 dramas
Look at that trend of decline - besides 2013 which had solid investment. Some would even argue that Edge of Heaven isnt a drama, which would mean just 1 new drama with 6hours this year on the channel. Why has in just 6 years, Itv reduced investment in new potentially returning dramas from 6 to just one?! Especially given that they no longer have the FA Cup from this season onwards, they should be saving money and using that money to reinvest in drama.
Compare to BBC One and the number of new 6+ hour drama launches theyve done in the same period:
2008 - 7 dramas - Ashes to Ashes, Lark Rise, Merlin, Apparitinos, Bonekicker, Survivors, mistresses
2009 - 5 dramas - All The Small Things, Hope Springs, Casualty 1909, Number 1 Detectives, Paradox
2010 - 3 dramas - Luther, Material Girl, The Accused
2011 - 5 dramas - Silk, Death in Paradise, Body Farm, Outcasts, Case Histories
2012 - 5 dramas - Last Tango in Halifax, Syndicate, Prisoenrs Wives, Hunted, The Paradise
2013 - 7 dramas - Ripper Street, Village, Frankie, The White Queen, By Any Means, Truckers, Atlantis
2014 - 6 dramas - Happy Valley, Crimson Field, Our Zoo, In The Club, Musketeers, The Passing Bells
= 38 dramas
Look how well BBC One has invested in new dramas in comparison. There was a little blip in 2010 but last year and this year, they've invested just as much into new dramas as 2008. And way more than Itv, as you can see the gap is increasing. This is even though BBC One already has plenty of hit returning dramas anyway. But the BBC's strategy of launching lots of new dramas is working and does pay off. Even if 50pct of the dramas succeed and 50pct flop, that means there's about 3 new drama hits per year returning again which helps the schedules out going forward. What good is it if youre launching just one or two new dramas per year as Itv are doing?! It's basically a waste of a year.
That's a good figure for EE there wasn't expecting it to be over 6mil on a Friday. It seems the new trailer is helping as it looks fantastic whats coming up.
Yeah but that doesn't explain your obsessive style posting about the channel. I'm just intrigued that's all.