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Jason and Gary
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Philip Schofield tweeted that Jason went to shake Gary's hand but Gary refused. There may have been words
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good on gary:)
I agree totally with this, and the way he went on about his daughter last night was abit much, i agreed when Jason said he was milking the child thing.
I feared though that the public would vote for him to win cos of Jasons remarks but thankfully Hayley got more! phew!
As has been said many a time blame the camera man they showed all the shots. Gary is a proud dad and there is nothing wrong with that!
Er read my post properly! i don't think the camera man is to blame for Gary going on about his daughter!!! If they left those bits out then there'd be nothing to show! :rolleyes:
Gary has shown some backbone, I'm saying this although I didn't support him. Good for him. For once, Jason was made to look stupid.
Why shouldn't he "go on about his daughter" - he is a proud father and there is nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is tweeting nasty comments about celebs calling them pillocks and comparing them to a piece of excrement on live TV.
I am the mum of a 4 year old and it's true to say that I go on about my son a LOT ... it's what parents do.
It's easy for those that don't like Gary to say he was 'milking' that aspect or that it gained him votes. I didn't vote for Gary because of his 'story' or 'journey' but because I enjoyed his skating.
Thanks Noah for your lovely post, I wish other people on here could understand there is nothing wrong, if you are a parent, in being proud! I voted for him on his skating and partnership with Maria too! Nobody has said that Hayley went on too much about her 'best friend' being her dance partner!
In my opinion Gary was the one who looked stupid... bringing 'off air' issues onto the show and making it all about Jason instead of about his skating on the night. He came across like he was sulking and I went from apthy about him to active dislike.
Whilst I agree that there's nothing wrong with being proud of your children, Gary DID milk it. Danella has young children and occasionally made reference to her kids enjoying the show, but it wasn't as in your face as Gary. His whole VT about 'we're going to win it Daddy' was in bad taste... surely there were other things with the final he could focus on. The cameramen couldn't be helped, but plenty of other things Gary did and said in relation to India could have been.
I wonder how many people who are praising Gary's handshake snub were slagging off Jason for doing the same with Sharron a few weeks ago?
Well, I'm sorry but Jason started it with his "milking daughter" comment. That had nothing to do with skating, so Gary was right to refer to something that had nothing to do with skating. I don't like victims, and I don't like the fact that people have to stand their like cows waiting for the great man to sprout his vitrol. IMO Gary did the right thing.
Again Jason started the "I don't shake hands" policy, so he cannot be surprised if people don't shake his hands:rolleyes:. If Gary had refused to shake Robin's hand, because he only gave him a 5 or 5.5 then I would criticise him for it. As it is, he refused to shake Jason's hand who called him a pillock and accused him of using his daughter for the programme. Unfortunately, in normal life, nastiness has consequences. Jason has been allowed to get away with too much of his vitrol and unprofessional behaviour. He now finally may have to deal with the consequences.
Oh Lach... let us run away together like the dish and spoon
I was grinning like a shark when Gary gave it back to Jason, and good on him for not shaking his hand - what's great is that Jason has painted himself into a corner with this one, he can't go bitching on his Twitter about how pathetic it is that Gary didn't shake his hand or whatever without making himself out to be equally pathetic for snubbing Sharron. The main difference being that Jason has been horribly rude and dismissive towards Gary, culminating in the nasty comment about his daughter, giving Gary every right to refuse his handshake - whereas with Sharron, she did nothing whatsoever to warrant the personal attack from Jason; she was the one getting all the stick, and the snub at the end was the cherry on the cake. As Sharron put it "a final act of graceless arrogance from a man I'd expect nothing less of".
Gary brought up the pillock thing before Jason mentioned his daughter. First thing out of Gary's mouth when he got a 4 .5 from Jason was along the lines of 'no pleasing him. Pillock wasn't it" Jason's first comments about Gary (the flying) were balanced and he mentioned improvement as well as a critisism about sameness of the routine, so Jason had hardly been slating him from the off.
Let's do that, needless to say another post that could have been written by myself or my long lost twin:D.
I will have to listen to it again, as I don't remember it this way around:o.
Nonetheless it won't change my mind. At the very least, Jason started it with the pillock comment. If Jason hadn't called Gary and Kieron a pillock, Gary could not have responded to Jason about the pillock comment (if you get what I mean). I'm pleased he has, as Jason seems to think that his behaviour is acceptable.
(I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong by the way!)
As for Gary directly - yes, he is a good skater, very good. However, his overall performances left me bored and I never voted for him because of this. I had a big grin on my face last night after both Hayley and Kieron's performances (and some of Daniella's and Danny's earlier in the series). Gary just left me cold, so I understand what Jason meant about him not 'selling the performance'. I suppose it depends on what you're focusing on how you judge the whole thing - is it about the DANCING, or the ON ICE bit that you focus on? As someone with little expertise in either area, it's a combination of both, but if I feel that someone is only good at both aspects will I vote for them. If I was only looking at the DANCING bit I wouldn't have been a fan of Gary's either.
Perfectly put, as usual. I totally agree!
I really wish you people would understand that nobody said he couldn't do it, he just did it TOO much!! a big difference! :rolleyes: