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Ed's biggest problem is...

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...his silly nasal voice. Whenever he speaks, people just do not listen to him because of his awful voice.
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    paulschapmanpaulschapman Posts: 35,536
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    petertard wrote: »
    ...his silly nasal voice. Whenever he speaks, people just do not listen to him because of his awful voice.

    Ed's biggest problem is not his voice, it is not the way he looks - and frankly it is annoying when people say it is.

    Ed's problem is two fold.

    1. Too much of the current front bench are associated with Labour's last period in office and even in the case of the two Eds who were advisers to Brown in the Treasury. Somehow we are supposed to believe that the next Labour administration is going to be different with the same people in the front bench.

    2. His attacks fail miserably because they are ill-thought out, fall apart when examined and even if they work for a time - eventually time marches on are over taken by events, which is what has happened with economic growth, unemployment and now with wages overtaking inflation.

    His voice, looks - do not even figure.
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    SpouthouseSpouthouse Posts: 1,046
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    ...his uninspiring personality. Despite what he would like us all to believe, politics isn't just about the policies, it's about those delivering the message.
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    ElyanElyan Posts: 8,781
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    He's a wimp, he looks like Victor Quartermaine, and he orates like a hammy actor.
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    smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    The problem is the shallowness of political reporting and comment, where image is prized over content.
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    MartinPMartinP Posts: 31,358
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    The problem is that he does not inspire and does not appear to be a credible leader. He has no narrative.
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    MartinPMartinP Posts: 31,358
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    The problem is the shallowness of political reporting and comment, where image is prized over content.

    Keep blaming the media if it makes you feel better. Others would say that you're in denial.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    himself
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    LandisLandis Posts: 14,858
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    MartinP wrote: »
    Keep blaming the media if it makes you feel better. Others would say that you're in denial.

    I saw no more than an observation in the post that you quoted.
    Nobody knows for sure what happened to the (other) 198 digital images, taken at 10 FPS, which show Ed making eye contact with a young woman sitting on the pavement.
    There is little point in Miliband worrying about that. 4 hours of Leadership Debates will be crucial to him (and to Cameron) and to the best of my knowledge there is no easy way to creatively edit live tv.
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    His lack of resolve.

    He flits from pillar to post.
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    RaferRafer Posts: 14,231
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    He doesn't know what he's doing. He's all reaction and not proactive in any way.
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    Amaretto2Amaretto2 Posts: 2,949
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    No style. No substance. Spouting vacuous Student Union politics to appease a small number of London based Guardian readers.

    He should never have run for leader, let alone win it. He just doesn't have very good leadership qualities as the stats prove.

    Unfotunately for Labour they rather arrogantly dismissed all criticisms of him as a right wing conspiracy and became complacent about their poll lead...now it is too late to do anything about him.
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    AndyCopenAndyCopen Posts: 2,213
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    Brain washed Marxist unable to function outside his Westminster Bubble.
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    eva_prioreva_prior Posts: 2,509
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    EM has the same problem as DC and NC. They are all in politics as a personal ego boosting career, not because they have passion to improve the lives of others.

    All three come across as disingenuous, self- serving, and 'cut from the same cloth.'
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    EnnerjeeEnnerjee Posts: 5,131
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    Similar things were said about John Major: uninspiring personality, lacklustre presentation, lacking the relevant communication skills, etc.

    The difference was that Major had worked his way up from Coldharbour Lane and had real jobs. Yes, he was up against Neil Kinnock and he'd followed Margaret Thatcher, but by 1992 he won the election against most commentators' predictions.

    He was perhaps the last PM who wasn't PM material.
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    DinkyDoobieDinkyDoobie Posts: 17,786
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    Millibands problem is that he has become a joke. They should just get rid of him.
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    eva_prioreva_prior Posts: 2,509
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    Millibands problem is that he has become a joke. They should just get rid of him.

    He's certainly going from bad to worse. Although DC was in a similar predicament before he got lucky and became PM.
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    Pat_SmithPat_Smith Posts: 2,104
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    Ed's biggest problem is not his voice, it is not the way he looks - and frankly it is annoying when people say it is.


    I'm afraid they are, like it or not. Not only, but they're the two big turn offs.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,830
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    Pat_Smith wrote: »
    I'm afraid they are, like it or not. Not only, but they're the two big turn offs.

    But his voice is the worst.
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    thenetworkbabethenetworkbabe Posts: 45,624
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    1. The economic situation. There are no alternative policies. He can't offer to do anything significantly different.

    2. Whilst there's little room for manouver on most economic issues, there is room to work on the twin issues of getting more revenue by facilitating more growth , and recovering more avoided tax. Labour has no real policy for either - and ends up tinkering with trivial absurdities like mansion taxes .

    3. Labour's record doesn't suggest competence . But his young team and his own leadership suggest even less.

    4. Labour can't appeal to Scottish socialists who want Labour's 1983 manifesto and southern marginal voters. who would still vote for Blair. at the same time.

    5 Cameron looks more like a PM, more economically competent, and more like a statesman, and has the poll figures to prove it.

    6. The voters. There's a mass of SNP and UKIP voters who are fed up, and want something different and are susceptible to snake oil salesmen. Milliband and Cameron can't pretend miracles are possible, or that suicidal ideas like leaving the EU, Scottish Independence or deporting all immigrants from everywhere won't make things much worse. The snake oil salesmen are by definition persuasive, and slumps do tend to lead to national socialist and far right parties doing well, and foreigners being blamed for everything.

    7 Milliband doesn't look like a leader, and his efforts, particularly on the international stage, suggest he is naive, irresponsible, inclined to follow party, Hampstead, union, or public opinion, and accident prone. The history confirms the first impression - which is never good.
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    MattNMattN Posts: 2,534
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    His main policy over the last 4 years has been to see what the Tories come out with then oppose it.
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    StykerStyker Posts: 49,867
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    He hasn't got a clue on when to act and when not to act!

    He was wrong to call for the sacking of Andrew Mitchell who done a really good job as International Development Secretary.

    He was wrong to oppose airstrikes on Syria.

    He got it wrong on not sacking the Blairites plotting against him, thats assuming they were though.

    And he was wrong to sack Thornberry too! There are racists out there that wave the flag around, see the far right groups for a start and all he's done is give the media a scalp and let David Cameron off the hook bigtime!

    Cameron has just lost his second MP and by election in a row to UKIP but Cameron will be able to now taunt Miliband and Labour that he's lost his Attorney General. Miliband really is provong to be a muppet!

    IF I do vote in the next election and for Labour it will be for the party and to keep the Tories out but even then I'm thinking of saying sod it to all of them!
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    InspirationInspiration Posts: 62,706
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    He's not a natural leader and he's certainly not a natural Prime Minister. It's not his fault.. not everyone is cut out for the job.
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    Wolfie_SmithWolfie_Smith Posts: 452
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    His problem is that he's a dick. Plain and simple
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    eva_prioreva_prior Posts: 2,509
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    Styker wrote: »
    He hasn't got a clue on when to act and when not to act!

    He was wrong to call for the sacking of Andrew Mitchell who done a really good job as International Development Secretary.

    He was wrong to oppose airstrikes on Syria.

    He got it wrong on not sacking the Blairites plotting against him, thats assuming they were though.

    And he was wrong to sack Thornberry too! There are racists out there that wave the flag around, see the far right groups for a start and all he's done is give the media a scalp and let David Cameron off the hook bigtime!

    Cameron has just lost his second MP and by election in a row to UKIP but Cameron will be able to now taunt Miliband and Labour that he's lost his Attorney General. Miliband really is provong to be a muppet!

    IF I do vote in the next election and for Labour it will be for the party and to keep the Tories out but even then I'm thinking of saying sod it to all of them!


    This thought process has made me conclude that the Green Party is now the only choice for me. They may not be totally right, but at least they are not a shade of Tory.
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    StykerStyker Posts: 49,867
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    eva_prior wrote: »
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    This thought process has made me conclude that the Green Party is the only choice for me. They may not be totally right, but at least they have a socialist conscious as an over-riding aim.

    I was thinking the same until Caroline Lucas on BBC's Question Time seemed to pretty much admit that the Green's want to legalise all drugs! I've worked in lots of jobs for the public and I know what people out of their heads can be like, no way will I vote for the Green's while they want to do that!

    Also, they say they won't build any houses on green land or green belt! They will probably try and convince people that that fits in with them being the Green party but I think its more of a calculated decision in not to upset the "Not In My Back Yard" Brigade who in many cases got their houses nice and cheap.

    I'm not happy at all that even the Green's are going to shaft the millions of people waiting for a council house hence why I'm seriously thinking of not voting at all now.
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