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Don't know how to react to (homophobic?) comment?

BustedCatBustedCat Posts: 1,167
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I've been staying with my uncle and his wife for the past two weeks or so and things have been going well. Until today, I was watching Alan Carr and it got to the part with Olly from X factor and they were playing gay chicken. My uncle walked into the room and shouted "disgusting" at the TV and walked out, I sat in shock. :( He's a nice guy and we get along well but after that, I'm not really sure how to react to that. I'm 19 and gay but it's not something I really talk about, I wouldn't lie about my sexuality though, if that makes any sense.
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    delectabledelectable Posts: 1,140
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    Does he know, what you are?!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,890
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    Are you going to be staying with your aunt and uncle permanently? If not then his possible homophobia doesn't need to be a big issue, although it's not nice to think about.
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    embyemby Posts: 7,837
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    The moment has probably passed for you to react to the comment he made about Alan Carr, so until he makes another similar dumb comment i would ignore it.

    Does he know you're gay?
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    mickmarsmickmars Posts: 7,438
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    Dont be so sensitive,,,
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    embyemby Posts: 7,837
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    mickmars wrote: »
    Dont be so sensitive,,,

    :rolleyes:

    If someone implies that your relationship is 'disguisting' it's hard not to be slightly offended ...
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    wildmovieguywildmovieguy Posts: 8,342
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    It's not his relationship, it's Alan Carr's and the person from X Factor. Keep rolling your eyes if you want darling.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,588
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    Are you sure he wasn't just commenting on Alan Carr’s teeth?
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    embyemby Posts: 7,837
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    It's not his relationship, it's Alan Carr's and the person from X Factor. Keep rolling your eyes if you want darling.

    I'd say referring to two guys kissing as 'disguisting' pretty much implies he assumes any two guys kissing is disguisting ...

    Are you mickmars' security guy?
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    sallycamebacksallycameback Posts: 2,945
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    A lot of straight blokes are put off by the gay kiss, or gay humping. It doesn't mean they hate gay folks or gayness per se. It's hard to explain. Doesn't bother some, it is a bit revolting to others. I wouldn't kiss another bloke, and the idea of it makes my sphincter tighten. Does that make me a homophobe? I dunno.
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    wildmovieguywildmovieguy Posts: 8,342
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    emby wrote: »
    I'd say referring to two guys kissing as 'disguisting' pretty much implies he assumes any two guys kissing is disguisting ...

    Are you mickmars' security guy?

    He's not talking about the OP. He's quite happy to sit and spend friendly time with his nephew. The comment was directed at the TV not him.
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    embyemby Posts: 7,837
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    He's not talking about the OP. He's quite happy to sit and spend friendly time with his nephew. The comment was directed at the TV not him.

    Well, we'll have to agree to disagree and leave it there. Don't want a derailed thread like the one yesterday now do we. :D
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    mickmarsmickmars Posts: 7,438
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    emby wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    If someone implies that your relationship is 'disguisting' it's hard not to be slightly offended ...

    Lets not get the fact that uncle thinks a lot of his nephew and treats him really well get in the way of an "outraged opinion" eh
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    mick.dundeemick.dundee Posts: 150
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    That tv programme where the kids goes someone said to me the other day you're gay. and i said does it matter.

    nah mate thats the wrong answer. you say no if you aren't lol

    What is gay chicken?
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    BustedCatBustedCat Posts: 1,167
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    sleepydove wrote: »
    Are you going to be staying with your aunt and uncle permanently? If not then his possible homophobia doesn't need to be a big issue, although it's not nice to think about.

    For a for weeks but I have the choice to leave earlier.
    He's not talking about the OP. He's quite happy to sit and spend friendly time with his nephew. The comment was directed at the TV not him.

    He doesn't know (to the best of my knowledge) that I'm gay.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,345
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    That's a difficult one. Older relatives may find it difficult to come to terms with openly gay people (because in their generation, such things might have been kept hidden, so they are not used to it).

    Alan Carr can be very upfront about stuff, have you tried watching something like John Barrowman's saturday night show on BBC1 to see if he has a problem with him or that (I have a problem with it, which is that it is dire, but that is not the issue here :) ). A mainstream entertainment show is a safe choice to watch to test what is and is not considered okay. If your uncle dislikes John Barrowman for who he is, then you'll either have to totally avoid the gay thing for the time you are there, or (assuming you are out already to quite a few people), decide enough is enough and that presumably your uncle and her partner like you as you are already, and that they should also like you as the same person they already know but who happens to be gay.

    You've got to make that judgement call, and the latter option carries the largest risk or reward: at worst you may be rejected so you should have contingency plans for that including where to stay for at least the first night (being rejected at first does not mean they don't love you, it is usually just too great a shock which they need time to come to terms with); alternatively because you have been honest with them about yourself, you may change their views about gay people perhaps not there and then, but quite quickly, and your friendship becomes that much closer.

    Whatever you do, I wish you the very best.
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    jackoljackol Posts: 7,887
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    BustedCat wrote: »
    For a for weeks but I have the choice to leave earlier.



    He doesn't know (to the best of my knowledge) that I'm gay.

    He will know, how could he not?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 688
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    A lot of straight blokes are put off by the gay kiss, or gay humping. It doesn't mean they hate gay folks or gayness per se. It's hard to explain. Doesn't bother some, it is a bit revolting to others. I wouldn't kiss another bloke, and the idea of it makes my sphincter tighten. Does that make me a homophobe? I dunno.

    Is'nt your sphincter the muscles that stop acid reflux at the entrance to the stomach??? lol :D
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    SigurdSigurd Posts: 26,610
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    I find the camp simpering of Alan Carr pretty nauseating myself.
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    whackyracerwhackyracer Posts: 15,786
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    mickmars wrote: »
    Lets not get the fact that uncle thinks a lot of his nephew and treats him really well get in the way of an "outraged opinion" eh

    He doesn't know he is gay and if he did, calling his lifestyle disgusting his hardly treating him well is it?
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    SecretSmilerSecretSmiler Posts: 1,015
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    surely uncle is allowed his own opinion in his own house :D
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    academiaacademia Posts: 18,225
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    The Barrowman test! Poor uncle - I imagine him being subjected to a compulsory questionnaire to prove to you that he isn't homophobic. Be sure to write it all down in a little notebook -

    Hates Carr
    OK with Barrowman
    Query Barbra Streisand.

    It's a bit like the Spy-In-The-Cab, isn't it?

    This is what comes of not being open with people and it isn't a pretty picture of you - you accept someone's hospitality, accept his affection for you, then sit and pick over attitudes, condemn, and get on the internet to have a big discussion about it.

    This is your uncle. He doesn't like Alan Carr. Neither do I - he grates on me. In my defence, however, Julian Clary used to make me laugh my head off. What does that tell you? Not a lot really.

    I really think it's time to get over yourself. Don't sit there eating the man's food and sleeping in his house, being friendly and nice to his face while mentally accusing him of unfashionable thinking and a questionable taste in comedians.
    Either ship out and find someone whose every thought meets your approval or man up and tell your family you're gay.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 13,717
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    He doesn't know he is gay and if he did, calling his lifestyle disgusting his hardly treating him well is it?
    He didn't call his lifestyle anything, he saw Alan Carr playing up to Olly in the gay chicken part of the show and thought that was disgusting. I thought "Ugh" when I saw it too - I can't stand Alan and it was only because a friend was round when it was shown a few days ago who wanted to see it that I saw that bit at all. Alan bores me, over-acts and his teeth look like they're in the wrong order. Him being gay makes no difference to me.

    OP, I can understand you wondering about the comment, albeit being only one word. However, it's unfair to judge your uncle just on the basis of that - it's not as if he used one of the many other nasty words that have been used to describe gay men in the past or went into a long rant about homosexuals, so you don't know he was talking about the sexuality of the people involved. If he's made homophobic comments in the past, that's different, but I doubt that as you've said you get on well and things have been going fine while you've been there.

    If you feel up to having the debate, bring up the subject with him (I'm not saying come out to him) and see how it goes. If you don't particularly fancy starting that conversation (fair enough, it could have all sorts of repercussions), then treat your stay with them as nothing more than a holiday with family. This was a comment that you don't appear to have heard before, so there's probably not much chance of hearing it again. Enjoy your break. :)
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    InspirationInspiration Posts: 62,706
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    OP: You have two options. Either challenge him about what he said, or just move on. Sitting there stewing over it feeling offended isn't going to get you anywhere really. Either ask him what he meant and explain it offended you or just forget about it.
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    whackyracerwhackyracer Posts: 15,786
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    He didn't call his lifestyle anything, he saw Alan Carr playing up to Olly in the gay chicken part of the show and thought that was disgusting. I thought "Ugh" when I saw it too - I can't stand Alan and it was only because a friend was round when it was shown a few days ago who wanted to see it that I saw that bit at all. Alan bores me, over-acts and his teeth look like they're in the wrong order. Him being gay makes no difference to me.

    OP, I can understand you wondering about the comment, albeit being only one word. However, it's unfair to judge your uncle just on the basis of that - it's not as if he used one of the many other nasty words that have been used to describe gay men in the past or went into a long rant about homosexuals, so you don't know he was talking about the sexuality of the people involved. If he's made homophobic comments in the past, that's different, but I doubt that as you've said you get on well and things have been going fine while you've been there.

    If you feel up to having the debate, bring up the subject with him (I'm not saying come out to him) and see how it goes. If you don't particularly fancy starting that conversation (fair enough, it could have all sorts of repercussions), then treat your stay with them as nothing more than a holiday with family. This was a comment that you don't appear to have heard before, so there's probably not much chance of hearing it again. Enjoy your break. :)

    This is what the OP implied from his post, and as that is all we have to go on, that was what my comment was based on. nice to know your views on Alan Carr though.:)
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    Abbasolutely 40Abbasolutely 40 Posts: 15,589
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    I cant stand Alan Carr, gay , straight , sitting , standing, talking , not talking , laughing, crying .Nothing to do with him being gay or not , just cant watch him
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