Is Britney Spears overrated?

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She's not an artist so there's nothing unique about her. Her songs could easily be sung by anyone else.

When she first came out you could see she worked hard in her act now she looks tired and humdrum.

She will always be considered a pop icon because how huge she was in her early career.But lets face it. She can't sing, lip-synching queen and doesn't write her songs.Even One Direction are better artists!

The most overrated 'musician' ever!

So why is this vacuous, talent-less, artificial, walking glamour shot in such high demand? Two reasons and two reasons alone can account for this phenomenon. An excellent marketing team and a look that only the best money can buy.

What do you think about Britney's Place in the Pop world and royalty? Is her Talent and persona Overrated or Underrated in your opinion?
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  • gpkgpk Posts: 10,206
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    she's a recording "artist" that is true, but a "musician"? i have never heard anyone call her that, ever.:confused:

    she was a pop phenomenon, that is also very true and she has had a great marketing team behind her, as well as a great team sourcing equally great recording material over the years. i think her her personal issues have helped in recent years, because generally people want a happy ending for her.

    overrated? she's certainly not a critics darling, so is that just leaves her with her commercial success to be judged upon, as well as her ability. like with many phenomenons, there is an element of commercial success that seems disproportionate, but there has always been question marks over her ability over the years.

    she's a singer as opposed to an artist really, i wouldn't call her a musician and on balance, she is only overrated in the sense of her music selling extremely well initially. that is the way i see it anyway.:D
  • Rob1985Rob1985 Posts: 5,193
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    No. Just no.
  • Anika HansonAnika Hanson Posts: 15,629
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    No.

    Also she co. Writes some of her songs -she co wrote all the songs on her latest album.

    Whilst she never sings live she can sing. She's not the best singer in the world but she can hold a note.

    So whilst she's no longer at her peak as an artist, she isn't completely talentless.

    She can never be overrated IMO. It's not about where she is at now, it's about the legacy she has created.
  • Alien_SaxonAlien_Saxon Posts: 1,178
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    ..I don't understand what you mean by overrated, once the major marketing machines be it Sony or whomever decide to back you and give you their full marketing campaign support then you will sell millions regardless.

    E.g. Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber.

    The former being a well known gimmick... born this way? I think not

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KorxtAQNQVc
  • dearmrmandearmrman Posts: 21,510
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    Personally don't think there is anything special about her. Just one of those lucky kids, that got spotted and was manufactured by the Disney machine.

    Not the best voice in the world, nor the worst. Probably thousands of people out there, who could have done the same job, with the right sort of backing like she had.

    Overrated? well she was liked and sold a lot of records, so something worked. But then again if it wasn't Britney it would have been somebody else.
  • Sweet7Sweet7 Posts: 599
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    She's an incredibly famous personality who everyone knows, a product from her ability to perform. It is so hard to last over 10 years in the industry and she has managed to do so and still has the public on her side.
  • Luner13Luner13 Posts: 2,968
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    She was defiantly overrated in 1999 - 2003 era

    Nowadays she doesn't get the sales to match the hype.
  • Squealer_MahonySquealer_Mahony Posts: 6,483
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    Totally overrated
  • cnbcwatchercnbcwatcher Posts: 56,681
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    Definitely not. In fact I'd say some of her post-breakdown albums (eg Blackout) are underrated, but that's just my opinion :p
  • Blondie XBlondie X Posts: 28,662
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    dearmrman wrote: »
    Personally don't think there is anything special about her. Just one of those lucky kids, that got spotted and was manufactured by the Disney machine.

    Not the best voice in the world, nor the worst. Probably thousands of people out there, who could have done the same job, with the right sort of backing like she had.

    Overrated? well she was liked and sold a lot of records, so something worked. But then again if it wasn't Britney it would have been somebody else.

    Agree with this. I have never understood how someone so average but to be so successful. She's ok looking, an ok singer, an ok dancer and she released so so songs and yet she became a global superstar.

    Think she was just lucky that she was picked to be a star but, as you say, if it wasn't her, it could have been any other wannabe
  • SoupietwistSoupietwist Posts: 1,314
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    Despict the fact she's been around for 15 years and seems to have remained popular - at least in magazine, celebrity way, I can only name 3 of her songs - Hit Me, Oops and Toxic. She seemed to sell on her looks, has a awful voice, contributes very little to 'her' music - but the thing that has always stood out for me is she has no personality..........you can throw all those faults at for example Katy Perry - but at least Katy has a personality. Britney is just dull.
  • AdzPowerAdzPower Posts: 4,861
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    Absolutely not, she is very talented.
    She can sing and has a very unique tone to her voice, very recognizable.
    An awesome dancer, a piano player and can write lyrics, as seen on her latest album where she co-wrote every single song.
    She doesn't sing live often but she's a product of her era, EVERYONE lip-synched when she first came around, it was the thing to do, and when she had her breakdown this indie wave took over and forced everyone to sing live, then when Britney came back 2 or 3 years later she carried on lip-synching because she had missed the train so to speak.
  • Master OzzyMaster Ozzy Posts: 18,935
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    Of course she's overrated. She can't sing to save her life. I'm sick of hearing the whole "she doesn't sing live because she does lots of dancing" excuse. Beyonce and others can do both. Lots of artists can't, so they adapt their performance for example by cutting down on the dancing so that they can sing live. If she was a good live singer and confident, then she would be singing live. Even her dancing isn't anything to write home about. All she's done for this Vegas residency is learn heavily choreographed dance routines, and she's not even performing them well. I've seen the videos and she's all over the place. Back in the day she was a decent bubblegum popstar. Now, she is completely overrated...she's not a great singer, she's not a great dance. She's just some woman performing sloppy dance routines at a casino in Vegas.
  • Mr_EyeMr_Eye Posts: 1,495
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    No-one apart from her insane fanbase rates her at all, so I'd say no.
  • Aura101Aura101 Posts: 8,327
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    Overrated ?
    Its Britney bitch !
  • dee123dee123 Posts: 46,258
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    sez_khan wrote: »
    She's not an artist so there's nothing unique about her. Her songs could easily be sung by anyone else.

    When she first came out you could see she worked hard in her act now she looks tired and humdrum.

    She will always be considered a pop icon because how huge she was in her early career.But lets face it. She can't sing, lip-synching queen and doesn't write her songs.Even One Direction are better artists!

    The most overrated 'musician' ever!

    So why is this vacuous, talent-less, artificial, walking glamour shot in such high demand? Two reasons and two reasons alone can account for this phenomenon. An excellent marketing team and a look that only the best money can buy.

    What do you think about Britney's Place in the Pop world and royalty? Is her Talent and persona Overrated or Underrated in your opinion?

    :D LOL. No.

    Not a single One Direction song is as good, for example: Toxic, Baby One more Time or Till The World Ends.

    NOT ONE.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,452
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    So many people are stating that Britney "co wrote" her new album.. You do know that if she changed, for example - "now get to work hun" to "now get to work bitch" , she could go down as co writer.

    I doubt Britney wrote a whole pile to be honest. I think the "co writer" thing is just to make her look more credible.

    Saying all of that I do think she deserved all her success in the late 90s early 00s.
    She has also released some good songs since then: Piece of Me, Womanizer.

    Her more recent singles have been pretty awful in my opinion, Work Bitch and Perfume are just mediocre.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 121
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    Musick1 wrote: »
    So many people are stating that Britney "co wrote" her new album.. You do know that if she changed, for example - "now get to work hun" to "now get to work bitch" , she could go down as co writer.

    I doubt Britney wrote a whole pile to be honest. I think the "co writer" thing is just to make her look more credible.

    Saying all of that I do think she deserved all her success in the late 90s early 00s.
    She has also released some good songs since then: Piece of Me, Womanizer.

    Her more recent singles have been pretty awful in my opinion, Work Bitch and Perfume are just mediocre.

    Pretty much everyone she has ever worked with has stated she is an absolute pro she is when it comes to making music. At this point in her career, she has absolutely nothing to gain from working the credible angle, people firmly believe she's just a vehicle for other peoples work and that's that, they won't be convinced otherwise. The truth is everyone involved in Britney Jean spoke highly of her work ethic when it comes to making music, and many of them, including Sia, praised her songwriting skills as well. Which is what everyone she's worked with has said her whole career. Britney has always written songs, she used to write poetry and post it on her website as well back in the day. Everytime was composed at a piano by herself, with most of the lyrics done by her as well. She wrote Someday (I Will Understand) herself at her piano too.

    It annoys me that just because her album is full of songs written for her that people assume she's completely devoid of any artistic talent at all. The songs chosen for her albums are chosen because they were written to have commercial appeal, if you take a look at the songs that Britney writes herself that have been released Everytime, Someday, My Baby etc they're all personal, not created for commercial appeal and that will go a long way to explaining why the songs she writes herself don't make the cut IMO.

    If she's still making music 15 years from now (and I suspect she will be, after a long break) then I don't doubt she'll come back with an adult-contemporary album that features mostly self-penned songs. At that point, she'll be long past the pop game and can focus more on releasing music more representative of her as an artist and not as a popstar that's expected to make her managers all the money she can while she's still a commercially-viable product.

    Her singing voice was absolutely ruined because her record label forced her to sing in her 'baby doll' voice rather than her 'real' voice, which you can hear here, singing Silent Night live in 1996. Her 'baby doll' voice is now pretty iconic and instantly recognisable, and I enjoy her singing voice even now, but there was potential for so much more.
  • Chris MarkChris Mark Posts: 4,897
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    No.

    Also she co. Writes some of her songs -she co wrote all the songs on her latest album.

    Whilst she never sings live she can sing. She's not the best singer in the world but she can hold a note.

    So whilst she's no longer at her peak as an artist, she isn't completely talentless.

    She can never be overrated IMO. It's not about where she is at now, it's about the legacy she has created.



    A lot of her biggest hits (....Baby One More Time, Oops I did It Again, Hold it Against Me") were written and produced by Max Martin who is of course a Swedish producer. Also Andreas Carlsson, Kristian Lundin they are Swedes and wrote songs for her such as "Born to Make You Happy). There are also producers and songwriters such as Rami Yacoub, Jörgen Elofsson, Per Magnusson who are also Swedish and who have worked with her.

    Safe to say Britney and many other US pop artists have a lot to thank Sweden for when it comes to their success,
  • cashloot147cashloot147 Posts: 609
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    Musick1 wrote: »
    So many people are stating that Britney "co wrote" her new album.. You do know that if she changed, for example - "now get to work hun" to "now get to work bitch" , she could go down as co writer.

    I doubt Britney wrote a whole pile to be honest. I think the "co writer" thing is just to make her look more credible.

    Saying all of that I do think she deserved all her success in the late 90s early 00s.
    She has also released some good songs since then: Piece of Me, Womanizer.

    Her more recent singles have been pretty awful in my opinion, Work Bitch and Perfume are just mediocre.


    http://www.vulture.com/2011/04/britney_spears_songwriter_heat.html

    Britney is well respected in the industry because she only takes credit for songs which she worked on from scratch.

    I can't find the article but another songwriter who worked with her on Femme Fatale said she could have taken a credit on a couple of the songs but chose not to as the change she made was so small.

    I don't think she is the most talented singer out there. Even she knows she isn't. But she is likeable, massively respected in the industry and has a brilliant work ethic.
  • mgvsmithmgvsmith Posts: 16,457
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    Another one of these 'baiting' threads.
    I'm surprised so many replied.

    Britney Spears is a pop star and a pretty good one.
    She doesn't have the lofty musical talents of Beyoncé or Christina Aquilera nor the artistic pretensions of Gaga or Pink but she is every bit as good as Katy Perry or that most moderate of talents, Kylie Minogue.
    She has a legacy that includes a few pop classics and she has long career with hits throughout.
    She will be reassessed eventually and be considered an influential pop star in about 10 years.
    What more do you want?
    Britney is not overrated at all.
  • Chris MarkChris Mark Posts: 4,897
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    mgvsmith wrote: »
    Another one of these 'baiting' threads.
    I'm surprised so many replied.

    Britney Spears is a pop star and a pretty good one.
    She doesn't have the lofty musical talents of Beyoncé or Christina Aquilera nor the artistic pretensions of Gaga or Pink but she is every bit as good as Katy Perry or that most moderate of talents, Kylie Minogue.
    She has a legacy that includes a few pop classics and she has long career with hits throughout.
    She will be reassessed eventually and be considered an influential pop star in about 10 years.
    What more do you want?
    Britney is not overrated at all.


    I don't begrudge anybody's success, good luck to the woman. Far more impressive in my opinion is how many of her producers and songwriters/co-writers have been Swedish. The same goes for the Backstreet Boys, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Christina Aguilera, 'N Sync, Kelly Clarkson any many others.

    For a country of just 9 million people Sweden sure does punch above its weight in the pop music world.

    It's not even my kind of music and I still say that.
  • Anika HansonAnika Hanson Posts: 15,629
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    http://www.vulture.com/2011/04/britney_spears_songwriter_heat.html

    Britney is well respected in the industry because she only takes credit for songs which she worked on from scratch.

    I can't find the article but another songwriter who worked with her on Femme Fatale said she could have taken a credit on a couple of the songs but chose not to as the change she made was so small.

    I don't think she is the most talented singer out there. Even she knows she isn't. But she is likeable, massively respected in the industry and has a brilliant work ethic.

    This.

    There are times when she could have gotten credits but didn't push for it as she felt that she hadn't contributed enough. Most other artists would have taken the credit.
  • Mark-AnthonyMark-Anthony Posts: 572
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    She never used to be-she deserved her icon status. She is very overrated now.
  • AdzPowerAdzPower Posts: 4,861
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    I laugh at the Beyonce comparisons, Beyonce actually lip-synchs quite a lot, but is very, VERY clever about it, she lip-synchs to a lot of verses in her more dance oriented songs and completely misses out the choruses to shake her butt for 30 seconds.
    Not to mention producers have come out of the woodwork in recent years slamming Beyonce for taking writing credits when she's only changed the odd word. A very clever woman I think.
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