Perhaps thats why I fail to understand the issue. for me, finding an 'equivalent' app is part and parcel of switching platforms (Java -> Symbian S60 -> Android)
Even if there were the exact same apps available for both platforms, it would still take a while to search and add say 200 apps that have been purchased/installed.
I think now there is a large investment in apps/games on your phone and tablet that just makes it a huge hassle to swap from one platform to another. I've got a Nexus 7 and at the moment have around 150 apps/games and don't think I could be bothered searching them all down and testing them out on another platform as I like what I have and don't want to swap away from them.
That's actually one reason I would not get a Mac as I have had a Windows PC since 1994 and switching to a new platform is just too much of a hassle to even contemplate.
heading out so don't have time to go through all of these but...
Love film instant - yes perhaps nice t get a choice, but Netflix is available and widely considered to be much better I believe? (and of course LF is available on the Kindle Fires)
Readr - very quick skim, looks to be no different to Google Play Magazines/Zinio/Press reader
Are there any apps here mentioned so far that, even taken collectively, would make people lean towards the ipad?
On readr you can pay a monthy subscription and get unlimited access to magazines. Of course you could buy individual magazines from the play store or Zinio but it would be more expensive.
If one was a ground breaking innovative experience and the rest were shoddy rip offs, perhaps. But Solitaire and Battleships?
And I understand most Playbook owners are pretty happy with the selection. 800,000 apps is irrelevant for most people. There were 'lots of apps' when there 100,000 apps available in the stores. App availability is simply no longer a big factor, unless you have a strong desire to play games from a particular games developer that only releases on one platform.
edit: I will throw a bone to the ipad list though. The poor Android tablet support for Sky Go is a massive failing, though apparently one that will be corrected soon.
I've tried all the similar battleships apps on the play store and I haven't liked any of them. I think the BBC iplayer app on android is a discrace. How long is it going to take them to them to make downloads available for android devices?
There are others apps that are not available on android but they are prehaps more obscure, such as the pADD app or the star trek books app. I'm not a big gamer, but Gormond posted a huge list of top end games that are not available on android.
I've tried all the similar battleships apps on the play store and I haven't liked any of them. I think the BBC iplayer app on android is a discrace. How long is it going to take them to them to make downloads available for android devices?
There are others apps that are not available on android but they are prehaps more obscure, such as the pADD app or the star trek books app. I'm not a big gamer, but Gormond posted a huge list of top end games that are not available on android.
Right so, the choice will come down to which platform has the best battleships app!! :eek:
On readr you can pay a monthy subscription and get unlimited access to magazines. Of course you could buy individual magazines from the play store or Zinio but it would be more expensive.
So like Pressreader then. Same functionality, different app. The main benefit of one over the other is what you are familiar with.
I'm not sure why this debate has taken this direction, but the App Store, and the quality of apps is just one consideration. Using both iOS and android there seems plenty of apps that do almost anything. It is interesting that iOS does seem to edge it (BBC iplayer being an example) but I'm sure an equivalent android version will be with us soon.
The iTunes negative view is also a weird one as it has been pointed out so many times that you do not need to use it.
I would always recommend just going and trying the kit out.
I was looking at the iPad apps. Nevertheless, it is obviously not in the top ten as someone else said. The fact that it is going down shows what I see with people that I know that own iPhones, that most users are simply using Apple's maps, especially since they tie into everything else, unlike Google's maps. I suspect people are now mostly using Google's maps for Streetview. Apple's maps have come along quite nicely.
In my experience, Apple Maps is still not very good.
Inaccurate Cambridge & London POIs I reported several months ago (at the start) are still inaccurate, with some on the wrong side or end of a road, some not shown at all, and some that actually closed down five years ago still listed. The same ones on Google Maps are correct.
At launch I also tried a variety of searches, all of which failed with either no result or with a result for somewhere in the USA instead of the UK. Google Maps was fine for all, however.
Trying the same searches now, one does actually give the correct result in London but the rest are still incorrect.
In my experience, Apple Maps is still not very good.
Inaccurate Cambridge & London POIs I reported several months ago (at the start) are still inaccurate, with some on the wrong side or end of a road, some not shown at all, and some that actually closed down five years ago still listed. The same ones on Google Maps are correct.
At launch I also tried a variety of searches, all of which failed with either no result or with a result for somewhere in the USA instead of the UK. Google Maps was fine for all, however.
Trying the same searches now, one does actually give the correct result in London but the rest are still incorrect.
I'm sticking with Google Maps...
I think apple maps is still very weak on searching and poi's, however I did show someone how to get to a location in London the other day and used the 3d view. We were both very impressed but the need to roll it out to a lot more places.
In my experience, Apple Maps is still not very good.
Inaccurate Cambridge & London POIs I reported several months ago (at the start) are still inaccurate, with some on the wrong side or end of a road, some not shown at all, and some that actually closed down five years ago still listed. The same ones on Google Maps are correct.
At launch I also tried a variety of searches, all of which failed with either no result or with a result for somewhere in the USA instead of the UK. Google Maps was fine for all, however.
Trying the same searches now, one does actually give the correct result in London but the rest are still incorrect.
I'm sticking with Google Maps...
Apple Maps, although improving is still lacking in accuracy and comprehensive POIs. I favour Google Maps currently on my iPhone. Shame they never made an official iPad app.
Apple Maps, although improving is still lacking in accuracy and comprehensive POIs. I favour Google Maps currently on my iPhone. Shame they never made an official iPad app.
The Google+ and YouTube apps (& possibly also the Gmail app?) started out as iPhone only, before being made "Universal". I'm sure that the Google Maps app will also eventually be updated...
In my experience, Apple Maps is still not very good.
Inaccurate Cambridge & London POIs I reported several months ago (at the start) are still inaccurate, with some on the wrong side or end of a road, some not shown at all, and some that actually closed down five years ago still listed. The same ones on Google Maps are correct.
At launch I also tried a variety of searches, all of which failed with either no result or with a result for somewhere in the USA instead of the UK. Google Maps was fine for all, however.
Trying the same searches now, one does actually give the correct result in London but the rest are still incorrect.
I'm sticking with Google Maps...
I agree. Apple Maps has hardly improved at all since launch. It's absolutely terrible. Still impossible to distinguish between major and minor roads, major and minor towns, and littered with incorrect POIs - they're literally all over the map. A town close to me has been spelt incorrect since launch. I reported it in October 2012, but it hasn't been changed. A park near me called Firs Park is listed as 'Fies Park'. The local rugby club is listed at the place where their old demolished stadium used to be years ago. These are examples just a couple of miles from my house.
The whole thing is a complete embarrassment. It's shameful, and there's never been a stronger argument for being able to change default applications. Third party apps like those for running or checking live flight information etc - anything that uses maps - now have to use the awful Apple Maps.
Oh, and when it doesn't recognise a location, which is often, things just don't work. Take Instagram. The 'Open in Maps' button just plain didn't work most of the time, because Apple Maps didn't recognise the pinned location (taken from Foursquare). It would show a map with a pin in the correct place for about half a second, then show a map of the whole world with a couple of search results for that place. Ludicrous. Thankfully, that button in Instagram now opens the Google Maps app.
I just picked Leeds at random. The difference in the level of detail says it all:
In my experience, Apple Maps is still not very good.
Inaccurate Cambridge & London POIs I reported several months ago (at the start) are still inaccurate, with some on the wrong side or end of a road, some not shown at all, and some that actually closed down five years ago still listed. The same ones on Google Maps are correct.
At launch I also tried a variety of searches, all of which failed with either no result or with a result for somewhere in the USA instead of the UK. Google Maps was fine for all, however.
Trying the same searches now, one does actually give the correct result in London but the rest are still incorrect.
I'm sticking with Google Maps...
Why are you injecting your experience "at launch" when obviously I am referring to now, to the past. It makes me question the honesty of the rest of your post.
I'm not sure why this debate has taken this direction, but the App Store, and the quality of apps is just one consideration. Using both iOS and android there seems plenty of apps that do almost anything..
No, that is obviously not the case. The quality, and especially the number of Android tablet apps available, do not even begin to compare with iOS and the iPad and it's over 300,000 tablet apps.
That's a silly question. The advantage of such a large library of apps is superior choice and selection, not the ability to be able to use all at once.
And even using the iphone version on the iPad is better than Apple maps.... Ironically, when you plot a route using public transport on Apple Maps, it uses the Google iphone app to give you the information
As far as I know Apple's Map app never claimed to offer such functionality so if it hands you off to another app then that shouldn't be surprising.
As far as I know Apple's Map app never claimed to offer such functionality so if it hands you off to another app then that shouldn't be surprising.
But its missing functionality that is in the Google Maps application while offering little in return. That's why I think Google is the better application and why I'll stick with that rather than having to switch between apps to read reviews or get street view... Yelp's app sucks too
I've only used Apple's maps twice. To be fair on both occasions it was accurate but I prefer to use google maps. I feel safer using them and I've used them for so long now I don't see the need to change when what I'm using works.
Why are you injecting your experience "at launch" when obviously I am referring to now, to the past. It makes me question the honesty of the rest of your post.
Read my post again. I was quite clearly comparing my experience with it "at launch" to my experience with it now, and pointing out that it is still (in my experience) terrible.
Oh, and before you accuse me of being some sort of "Apple hater", I have an iPad 3 (& previously had an iPad 2), iPhone 5 (& previously had each one bar the original), iMac, and Apple TV.
I like Apple products (and have been accused of being a "fanboy" by others here), but I am actually still able to criticise Apple when it has messed up, such as with Apple Maps...
As far as I know Apple's Map app never claimed to offer such functionality so if it hands you off to another app then that shouldn't be surprising.
However, the previous Maps app on iOS (the one that used Google, and was removed by Apple) did offer that exact same functionality, instead of kicking you out of the app and requiring you to use another app for public transport (if you're lucky enough to have a public transport app available for your location).
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I think now there is a large investment in apps/games on your phone and tablet that just makes it a huge hassle to swap from one platform to another. I've got a Nexus 7 and at the moment have around 150 apps/games and don't think I could be bothered searching them all down and testing them out on another platform as I like what I have and don't want to swap away from them.
That's actually one reason I would not get a Mac as I have had a Windows PC since 1994 and switching to a new platform is just too much of a hassle to even contemplate.
On readr you can pay a monthy subscription and get unlimited access to magazines. Of course you could buy individual magazines from the play store or Zinio but it would be more expensive.
I've tried all the similar battleships apps on the play store and I haven't liked any of them. I think the BBC iplayer app on android is a discrace. How long is it going to take them to them to make downloads available for android devices?
There are others apps that are not available on android but they are prehaps more obscure, such as the pADD app or the star trek books app. I'm not a big gamer, but Gormond posted a huge list of top end games that are not available on android.
Right so, the choice will come down to which platform has the best battleships app!! :eek:
There's a battleship app on the play store that has 35,000 5* reviews, seems to me android is the go to platform for battleship aficionados.:D
Sorted then!!! Android sinks IOS (pun intended)
So like Pressreader then. Same functionality, different app. The main benefit of one over the other is what you are familiar with.
The iTunes negative view is also a weird one as it has been pointed out so many times that you do not need to use it.
I would always recommend just going and trying the kit out.
In my experience, Apple Maps is still not very good.
Inaccurate Cambridge & London POIs I reported several months ago (at the start) are still inaccurate, with some on the wrong side or end of a road, some not shown at all, and some that actually closed down five years ago still listed. The same ones on Google Maps are correct.
At launch I also tried a variety of searches, all of which failed with either no result or with a result for somewhere in the USA instead of the UK. Google Maps was fine for all, however.
Trying the same searches now, one does actually give the correct result in London but the rest are still incorrect.
I'm sticking with Google Maps...
I think apple maps is still very weak on searching and poi's, however I did show someone how to get to a location in London the other day and used the 3d view. We were both very impressed but the need to roll it out to a lot more places.
I didn't know about pressreader. I will have to check that out thanks.
The Google+ and YouTube apps (& possibly also the Gmail app?) started out as iPhone only, before being made "Universal". I'm sure that the Google Maps app will also eventually be updated...
I agree. Apple Maps has hardly improved at all since launch. It's absolutely terrible. Still impossible to distinguish between major and minor roads, major and minor towns, and littered with incorrect POIs - they're literally all over the map. A town close to me has been spelt incorrect since launch. I reported it in October 2012, but it hasn't been changed. A park near me called Firs Park is listed as 'Fies Park'. The local rugby club is listed at the place where their old demolished stadium used to be years ago. These are examples just a couple of miles from my house.
The whole thing is a complete embarrassment. It's shameful, and there's never been a stronger argument for being able to change default applications. Third party apps like those for running or checking live flight information etc - anything that uses maps - now have to use the awful Apple Maps.
Oh, and when it doesn't recognise a location, which is often, things just don't work. Take Instagram. The 'Open in Maps' button just plain didn't work most of the time, because Apple Maps didn't recognise the pinned location (taken from Foursquare). It would show a map with a pin in the correct place for about half a second, then show a map of the whole world with a couple of search results for that place. Ludicrous. Thankfully, that button in Instagram now opens the Google Maps app.
I just picked Leeds at random. The difference in the level of detail says it all:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0td8dy2bp6vshfv/2013-05-05%2018.52.41.jpg
Why are you injecting your experience "at launch" when obviously I am referring to now, to the past. It makes me question the honesty of the rest of your post.
No, that is obviously not the case. The quality, and especially the number of Android tablet apps available, do not even begin to compare with iOS and the iPad and it's over 300,000 tablet apps.
I'm not the one that is resorting to name calling.
That's a silly question. The advantage of such a large library of apps is superior choice and selection, not the ability to be able to use all at once.
Which would further explain why it didn't even show up.
As far as I know Apple's Map app never claimed to offer such functionality so if it hands you off to another app then that shouldn't be surprising.
But its missing functionality that is in the Google Maps application while offering little in return. That's why I think Google is the better application and why I'll stick with that rather than having to switch between apps to read reviews or get street view... Yelp's app sucks too
Read my post again. I was quite clearly comparing my experience with it "at launch" to my experience with it now, and pointing out that it is still (in my experience) terrible.
Oh, and before you accuse me of being some sort of "Apple hater", I have an iPad 3 (& previously had an iPad 2), iPhone 5 (& previously had each one bar the original), iMac, and Apple TV.
I like Apple products (and have been accused of being a "fanboy" by others here), but I am actually still able to criticise Apple when it has messed up, such as with Apple Maps...
However, the previous Maps app on iOS (the one that used Google, and was removed by Apple) did offer that exact same functionality, instead of kicking you out of the app and requiring you to use another app for public transport (if you're lucky enough to have a public transport app available for your location).