Skyfall butchered.
fastest finger
Posts: 12,872 Forum Member
✭✭
Why on earth are Sky showing a 16:9 version of Skyfall rather than the original 2.4:1 presentation?
Sky have been pretty good at showing films as originally made, showing up the likes of ITV, so why this sudden change, especially in such a big name movie?
Sky have been pretty good at showing films as originally made, showing up the likes of ITV, so why this sudden change, especially in such a big name movie?
0
Comments
Quite possibly. Bloody stupid idea, whoever's fault it is.
As for the aspect ratio, I would guess that the average user will have no idea the master version was any different
As far as I know, 2.35:1 is Mendes' preferred ratio though.
http://www.imax.com/community/blog/skyfall-specially-formatted-for-imax/
Watched a bit of it this morning on Showcase and I thought it should not be full screen as I have the blu ray and it is widescreen with black bars at top and bottom. Odd really as All the other Bond films seem to be in correct ratio.
The 16:9 TV version does seem to have some additional height, so it has been taken from the original master I think. The end result is not as bad as it could have been. Still missing a significant amount of information from the sides compared to the cinema version though.
Yeah, well, this viewer does care. And as a viewer that cares, I feel it devalues Sky Movies as a premium product. And when things become devalued, I'm less inclined to use them and pay for them.
Now I don't care if it's Sky or the movie studio that made the decision. It's Sky that I pay my money to, and if Sky can't work with their suppliers to provide a product that I'm happy with then they risk losing custom, just the same as any other business.
Nope. They have done it correctly at least in this case. I've just compared the opening scenes where Bond is walking down the corridor. Definitely the Blu-ray version has the mattes applied and Sky are showing the open matte version.
Of course, this is not what the director intended for the theatrical release - or even the Blu-ray version. The studios must have been responsible supplying Sky with the open matte version. If they feel they have to appease those who object to black bars I would much rather they did it like this than the way ITV do it.
Are you seriously moaning about this?
Yes, I am.
Look, ultimately it doesn't matter to the masses. But, it struck me as a strange move and at odds with Sky's usual policy of showing films as they were originally made.
The movies being shown in their proper format was just one of the benefits of the Bond movies moving to Sky from ITV.
Skyfall is, in my opinion, a great movie. Sky have made a big deal about showing the film and relaunching Sky Movies 007. And when it happens they are showing, what I consider, to be an inferior version of the movie.
Sky Movies is a premium service at a premium price and I feel I have every right to expect a premium product from them.
Wow! You really must have a perfect life then.
totally agree with you
sky love to mess viewers about.
And your evidence for this is.....
It will be interesting to see what they do with "Dark Knight Rises", the blu ray of which switched between the two formats depending on how the sequences had been filmed.
Which is the correct aspect ratio? I would suggest it is the one that has been sold in its millions on DVD. The one that featured on the fastest selling Blu-ray of all time. The one specifically chosen for home viewing. The one NOT currently being shown by Sky.
If someone can post the email address i'll send in a complaint to sky movies about this and if everyone else does the same, maybe they'll listen.
Sky did something similar with Tron Legacy a while back and I prefer the Sky version to the bluray.
Tron Legacy bluray:
http://i44.tinypic.com/nx0xzd.jpg
Tron Legacy Sky Movies HD (Showcase/Anytime):
http://i41.tinypic.com/2ez0o6g.jpg
Well, yes exactly. I wonder if people have read this thread properly. Nothing is missing here. All that they (and that's the studio btw and not Sky) have done is to prepare a full 16:9 version by removing the mattes which were used to mask off the top and bottom. In a sense it was these theatrical and early DVD/Blu-ray releases which were cropped!
The director would have been fully aware of what he was shooting at the time. The version Sky is broadcasting gives you more information top and bottom so I really don't get why people are complaining
I'm honestly offended that someone would assume I'd put adverts and a dog in a film. Even when we are discussing something completely different. Not sure what they have to do with losing a minute part of a film and has just been said above. Maybe the version sky got and broadcast was actually the version you're moaning about. Frankly some people have too much time on their hands IMO.
On one hand I think its commendable that the 16:9 TV version has been taken from the original master and wasn't some pan-and-scan hatchet job as seen in the bad old days.
The same thing happened with Avatar on TV, DVD and Blu-ray. But, in that movie height was important, and the lack of black bars also helped with the 3D versions.
Whereas after watching Skyfall on Blu-ray I find the broadcast TV version jarring. The additional screen space seems filled with irrelevancies, the inside of car roofs, chair legs, feet and hands with nothing to do. That's fine on an IMAX screen, where all of that is pushed to your peripheral vision, but on a TV screen it just seems untidy.
As has already been said, first time, casual viewers most likely couldn't give a damn, but for me its all very distracting.