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Snowfalls "a thing of the past" says climate scientist - 10 years ago
[url=]Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past[/url]
This is from an article dated 20 March 2000.
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According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".
This is from an article dated 20 March 2000.
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Now winters have got worse in the last few years its 'climate change'. So the snow we are getting today is man made and down to man polutting the planet (odd we had an ice age beforev man existed)
It might not seem like that, because the world is actually quite big. Whereas its the coldest in a long time here, its the hottest and driest elsewhere. You have to take the average across the whole globe, not just go out in to your back garden.
Also look at 1963. That was a freak year where we had snow from October till march several feet deep or something like that.
If the gulf stream packs up we would be a country similar to Sweden and Russia. Maybe its having an off year. Lots of fresh water from the melting Arctic or oil in the gulf, isn't going to help as salt water is required for it to work.
However, in light of the Chinese pink rivers, sewage washed up on pretty much every seashore in the country, the cloud of smog that hangs over London, increasing respiratory illnesses, the hole in the ozone layer and related skin cancers, I don't think anyone can reasonably argue that something shouldn't be done about pollution, whether it causes global warming or not.
Fixed it for you.
I remember it well.:(
And 1947.:(
But that won't matter, as he'll still claim that they prove his point.
Exactly, climate scientists are hardly going to say 'hell sh*t, the weather and climate on this planet is pretty unpredictable' when the government fund them - or turkeys aren't going to vote for Christmas.
All it proves is is this planets weather and climate cycles are pretty much unpredictable.
"Heavy snow will return occasionally, says Dr Viner, but when it does we will be unprepared. "We're really going to get caught out. Snow will probably cause chaos in 20 years time," he said."
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
Looks he was spot on, if a bit cautious.
Clutching at straws?
But it used to snow every winter when I was a child. My birthday is in February and I remember that many of my birthdays I was out playing in the snow.
Straws? What he actually said? Bizarre.
'Climate change' has actually been an amazing tool to deflect people from thinking about pollution. Companies with their 'we're doing our bit to reduce our carbon footprint' while saying nothing about the raw waste getting dumped in the rivers and seas.
Climate change is just a smokescreen for big buisness.
THAT is just rubbish.
For starters the winter of 1962/63 famously didn't start until Christmas. Widespread snow in Britain before Christmas is actually an unusual occurance (hence why even in snow prone parts of Scotland white Christmases are hit and miss) as in fact it is in North America.
Second the last two winters have been down to the Jet Stream (which is far more important for UK weather than the Gulf Stream entering what is known as an Omega Block. This blocking fixes the weather into one pattern for a prolonged period of time. In winter it usually means the normal mild wet weather from the atlantic is shut off and we get prolonged cold from the North and East.
The BBC explains it all perfectly in this video.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/hi/news/newsid_9221000/9221616.stm
It used to be a regual feature of winter in Britain right up to the late 1980s but for whatever reason failed to materialise for 20 odd years, coincinding with the start of the "climate change" garbage.
These prolonged cold spells used to happen nearly every other winter in Britain. Hence why even less famous years like 1987,1986,1985,1982,1979 and so on had months where the average recorded temperature was barely above freezing point or indeed below.
Last winter and, it looks like this one, are in fact the return of normality for all of us who remember winters before 1991.
Come on Andy...you know as well as everyone else he wasn't anticipating or describing 4 or 5 significant bouts of snow in under 2 years.
He was anticipating snow every 5 or 10 years as we experienced through the 90s/00s, with even those infrequent falls becoming rarer thus causing havoc if and when they came.
I suspect we'll be rather better prepared in the future as it looks like we'll have to be.
People tend to believe only what's happening under their own noses.
Strangely enough - prbably not. For preparation costs MONEY, that precious and rare commodity that seems to be in short supply at every level of national or local government spending at the minute - so we are repeatedly told.
If we can cut the SAS when they're actually abroad and fighting to save money...how on earth do you think we'll spend money on something that might not happen again so severely for X number of years?
1. Please don't begin you replies, on scientific debates with, 'Rubbish', it rarely makes you sound objective.
2. Your more vivid recollection of 1963 doesn't change the fact that occasionally we have freak weather conditions.
3. As usual, people are always coming up with new theories on well established scientific thinking. Sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Stream
It was, but then people didn't understand that the global change would increase, but locally places could be colder (especially in winters).
this of course makes people state 'it used to be global warming', when it is still global warming, just a better name so people understand better.
It's been known as climate change to everyone with an understanding of what is happening for years. I tend to think that people who still insist on talking about global warming are either not paying attention, or are deliberately hoping to undermine the debate when the inevitable cold snap comes along. The Express group newspapers like to scoff as "so-called global warming" every time it's not roasty-toasty.
It really bugs me when people say they want global warming so we'll be like the south of France. I know most of the time they are joking, but there is a good chance of our weather getting worse, as well as less predictable.
Extreme weather events, such as the Pakistani monsoons etc are all plausible consequences of climate change, and people who think that it was ever about moving to the Med need to adjust their expectations now. Presuming they are actually interested, and aren't looking for excuses to keep producing as much CO2 as they like.