My local used to be a real pub and now it's a gastro pub. Due to feeling too bloated by beer I can't drink pints anymore so drink large JD&C. It's around £7 in my local and the place is dead and hardly anybody goes in anymore but 100 yards up the road the last surviving real boozer pub left in town gets packed out and I can get a double JD and coke for £4 and if I catch the bus into The Potteries, I can find a whole selection of real old traditional pubs where I can get the same drink for just £3.50 and it's a better night out in a better pub with nicer, more friendly locals who actually sit and chat to you and the barstaff and owners make the effort to chat to you and learn your name and remember what you drink and say ta'ra when you leave. Why would I waste my time staying around here and get ripped off to sit in some emotionless pretentious pub when for the price of a pint and a half I can get a bus to a better night out with better pubs and better people where after only 2 rounds of drinks my bus fare has already paid for itself by not staying local?
It's no wonder these places are dying on their arse. The owner of my local pub won't lower his prices because he only seems to want to encourage the diners and the hooray Henrys yet these days it's dead all week until the middle class snobs turn out on a Friday or Saturday night. Whenever I walk past during the week there's never anybody in all day and night. They've driven everybody away by trying to go too upmarket and the place has lost all it's locals atmosphere. It used to get packed with regulars drinking and socialising. Now it's a very sad lonely place. Shame.
They're all like that in large parts of inner London from what I can see - the surreptitious ethnic and social cleansing going on has turned a lot of areas into ponce's paradises and the old pubs have generally followed suit or been turned into housing. Most of them now seem to be the sort of places where the bright young public school yuppies who refer to their parents as mater and pater go to watch the rugger, or alternatively dens for the Notting Hill set and their ilk. It makes me laugh at NIgel Farrage really because in huge numbers of formerly average inner London boozers in gentrified areas non-white faces - or even white faces that aren't attached to expensively dressed bodies - are almost non-existent from what I can see.
I say "from what I can see" because I never go in these places anymore except to use the toilet. It's very hard to find a genuine, ordinary pub near me anymore (Ladbroke Grove/Notting Hill) where I can go without feeling like a pleb. I actually remember seeing a chalkboard pub menu somewhere which referred to "hand ground black pepper" and "hand shaped beef patties". WTF?
Unfortunately the community spirit that used to exist which meant you could go down the pub on your own a few times and within short time know a decent number of people of various backgrounds and races to hang out with is long dead.
A pub that tries to be all traditional and rustic but charges hotel prices. A place that substitutes plates for wooden chopping boards. Chips come in little silver buckets and ketchup is served by the thimble. Where a starter will cost you more than a main meal would in a normal pub and a poshed up burger will cost you as much as a fillet steak would normally. Bar snacks consist of posh hand cut crisps and exotic nuts like wasabi peanuts or you can treat yourself to a platter of antipasti or a bowl of mixed olives to go with your £5 G&T. A glass of wine will cost you more than a full bottle will in Asda. They usually have wooden or stone tiled floors and lots of wood panelling and fake beams everywhere and instead of stools, they have converted sherry barrels to sit on because it gives the place a rustic and quirky feel. The kind of place that's frequented by middle class snobs and people in suits out for a business lunch. The staff and owners don't socialise with the customers as they're just there to serve and they all wear uniform and call you sir while they try their damndest to keep a straight face as they have the gall to charge you £7 for a large JD and coke.
perfect description! What is it with this serving food on anything but plates? I thought it pretty unhygienic when i got served a burger on a chopping board. I was wondering how much grease had seeped into the wood over the years?:o Also another thing about pretentious pubs is how poor the ale tends to be. The regular customer of these places seem to drink expensive fizzy pop lagers like Peroni, so the ale they get in gets a poor turnover and goes stale. The staff seem to have no idea how to serve it either and don't use the sparkler, resulting in a flat pint. Thankfully where i live there is a new breed of pubs cropping up. The real ale pub, where serving quality ale is the main focus. These places are very popular too.:)
perfect description! What is it with this serving food on anything but plates? I thought it pretty unhygienic when i got served a burger on a chopping board. I was wondering how much grease had seeped into the wood over the years?:o Also another thing about pretentious pubs is how poor the ale tends to be. The regular customer of these places seem to drink expensive fizzy pop lagers like Peroni, so the ale they get in gets a poor turnover and goes stale. The staff seem to have no idea how to serve it either and don't use the sparkler, resulting in a flat pint. Thankfully where i live there is a new breed of pubs cropping up. The real ale pub, where serving quality ale is the main focus. These places are very popular too.:)
I can't remember the last time I had a nice creamy head on my pint. I don't drink ale very much these days but whenever I do it seems the modern trend is to pull it flat and fill it to the brim. You're right about the quality too. Because they have nobody going in all week and when they do it's like you say, wine drinkers and trendy lager drinkers, the ale is sat around going sour. Bitter needs to move to keep it on top form but when they're not getting the drinkers in, it just sits in the cellar going off.
We have a real ale pub in town but even they don't know how to put a head on beer and it's like drinking cold tea. The place is grotty with a quarry tiled floor and reclaimed furniture and those rock hard church pews which wreck your back and numb your arse. It gets full of bald, beer-bellied men who stand around comparing tasting notes and chatting about how many beer festivals they've been to. They don't have any music or entertainment or a jukebox or pool table or a tv or fruit machine etc which in a way is good but sadly the place lacks atmosphere and feels a bit cold and dingey like sitting in an old church.
Back in the day I remember when a pub being pretentious meant it served soup in a basket!
I miss the days when pubs were real pubs and pub food meant chicken in a basket or scampi and chips or a warmed up pie and sandwiches were freshly made that morning and kept under a plastic cloche on the back of the bar but it didn't matter bcecause they were only a quid each. None of this ponced up nonsense. If I wanted restaurant food at restaurant prices I'd go to a sodding restaurant and have proper restaurant service and not all this pub trying to be a restaurant malarkey.
You only have to read some of the bullshit they put on their menus to make ordinary pub grub sound pretentious. It's like that old M&S advert. This isn't just sausages and mash with onion gravy. These are locally sourced hand reared Lincolnshire sausages with mustard mash and a red wine and onion jus. This isn't just chicken and chips. This is corn fed free range oven roasted chicken breast with hand cut twice fried chunky chips. What utter crap! Plus the fact the portion sizes are usually so cordon bleu small you end up going home hungry and don't think by ordering a side of chips is gonna help fill you up. They come served in a little metal bucket and you get about 8 chips or they arrange them in a jenga style formation to discuise the fact that they've just charged you £2.50 for about 2 mouthfulls of food.
I was perfectly happy when pubs were places for locals to go for a pint and a natter and to play traditional pub games where everybody knows one another and the landlord greets you by name as you walk in and knows what you drink and pours your pint out on the bar without having to ask for it and if you're lucky you might get a lock in after time. A place with cosy seating and warm carpets and local pub memorabilia and brass ornaments and little personal nick-nacks dotted about the place and maybe a pub dog that wanders round before curling up in front of the real open fire. Bar stools where you can sit at whilst chatting to the landlord and the local regulars. Somewhere where you can get a cheap bar meal and not be ripped off for restaurant type food. Somewhere where you can get an ordinary sandwich for about £3 unlike gastro pubs that serve exactly the same thing on posh bread, throw in a sprig of rocket leaf and slap it on a wooden chopping board and whack on an extra £4. You're lucky if anybody bothers to talk to you other than the bar staff who's only form of conversation is to take your order.
There's a good reason that pubs are so dead these days and it's not just because people haven't got any money to spend. It's because pubs today are being ruined. We only ever drink in traditional pubs and locals boozers and they are usually the ones with the most people in them when all the rest are half empty. They've always got the best atmosphere and the friendliest people. What does that say? It says that customers like a real pub and there's still a demand for them and if breweries would only stop to listen to what customers want and stop trying to fix something that isn't broken then maybe pubs would be busier and wouldn't keep closing down every 5 minutes.
I'm sick of hearing idiotic licensees and breweries blaming stuff like the smoking ban and cheap supermarket booze for the closure of pubs when all the decent traditional pubs round here are still packed out and the badly managed ones are empty. Instead of pointing the finger at other people maybe they need to go back to basics and take at look at why other pubs are so busy and theirs aren't. As far as I'm concerned, idiots who take hold of a lovely old fashioned pub and gut it out of all recognition and modernise it to look like something that resembles an IKEA showroom should be locked up for crimes against local culture.
That looks like one of those 'hidden object' games my wife plays. Find a comb, a bike pump, a pair of scissors, and a butterfly.
It's Prince Harry's favourite boozer and what's good enough for him is good enough for me. The place has character and individuality. I love pubs like this. Real personality.
This however is the kind of snobfest that grates my cheese when people talk about pubs. These kind of places are not fit to be classed as pubs. They are restaurants which now stand on the site where a proper pub used to be before some middle class Jaguar driving, Armarni shirt wearing brewery boss came along and thought it would be a good idea to gut the place.
This however is the kind of snobfest that grates my cheese when people talk about pubs. These kind of places are not fit to be classed as pubs. They are restaurants which now stand on the site where a proper pub used to be before some middle class Jaguar driving, Armarni shirt wearing brewery boss came along and thought it would be a good idea to gut the place.
Full house! 'Craft beer', 'gastropub', and 'artisanal', all on the home page. W*nkers. Good job it's in South Africa and not over here.
The pubs I frequent are pretty much between the two.
But that first one, whenever I have been in places like that they've not been welcoming. The sort of place where when you walk in it goes a bit quiet and they all look at you.
Full house! 'Craft beer', 'gastropub', and 'artisanal', all on the home page. W*nkers. Good job it's in South Africa and not over here.
Yeah sorry I couldn't find a British one without knowing individual pubs and didn't want to out myself by linking to my local pub website but its pretty much as pretentious as this one that I found on a quick Google search.
Full house! 'Craft beer', 'gastropub', and 'artisanal', all on the home page. W*nkers. Good job it's in South Africa and not over here.
"Craft beer" seems to be the new name, dreamt up by marketing types, for real ale as it sounds trendy, "artisan" and gets away from the beards and sandals image of the CAMRA members.
We do, why not? We have bruisers' pubs, footie pubs, flatroofed estate pubs full of wrong 'uns and junkies, Wetherspoons, boozers' pubs, why not something else? The more the merrier
I can't remember the last time I had a nice creamy head on my pint. I don't drink ale very much these days but whenever I do it seems the modern trend is to pull it flat and fill it to the brim. You're right about the quality too. Because they have nobody going in all week and when they do it's like you say, wine drinkers and trendy lager drinkers, the ale is sat around going sour. Bitter needs to move to keep it on top form but when they're not getting the drinkers in, it just sits in the cellar going off.
We have a real ale pub in town but even they don't know how to put a head on beer and it's like drinking cold tea. The place is grotty with a quarry tiled floor and reclaimed furniture and those rock hard church pews which wreck your back and numb your arse. It gets full of bald, beer-bellied men who stand around comparing tasting notes and chatting about how many beer festivals they've been to. They don't have any music or entertainment or a jukebox or pool table or a tv or fruit machine etc which in a way is good but sadly the place lacks atmosphere and feels a bit cold and dingey like sitting in an old church.
I miss the days when pubs were real pubs and pub food meant chicken in a basket or scampi and chips or a warmed up pie and sandwiches were freshly made that morning and kept under a plastic cloche on the back of the bar but it didn't matter bcecause they were only a quid each. None of this ponced up nonsense. If I wanted restaurant food at restaurant prices I'd go to a sodding restaurant and have proper restaurant service and not all this pub trying to be a restaurant malarkey.
You only have to read some of the bullshit they put on their menus to make ordinary pub grub sound pretentious. It's like that old M&S advert. This isn't just sausages and mash with onion gravy. These are locally sourced hand reared Lincolnshire sausages with mustard mash and a red wine and onion jus. This isn't just chicken and chips. This is corn fed free range oven roasted chicken breast with hand cut twice fried chunky chips. What utter crap! Plus the fact the portion sizes are usually so cordon bleu small you end up going home hungry and don't think by ordering a side of chips is gonna help fill you up. They come served in a little metal bucket and you get about 8 chips or they arrange them in a jenga style formation to discuise the fact that they've just charged you £2.50 for about 2 mouthfulls of food.
I was perfectly happy when pubs were places for locals to go for a pint and a natter and to play traditional pub games where everybody knows one another and the landlord greets you by name as you walk in and knows what you drink and pours your pint out on the bar without having to ask for it and if you're lucky you might get a lock in after time. A place with cosy seating and warm carpets and local pub memorabilia and brass ornaments and little personal nick-nacks dotted about the place and maybe a pub dog that wanders round before curling up in front of the real open fire. Bar stools where you can sit at whilst chatting to the landlord and the local regulars. Somewhere where you can get a cheap bar meal and not be ripped off for restaurant type food. Somewhere where you can get an ordinary sandwich for about £3 unlike gastro pubs that serve exactly the same thing on posh bread, throw in a sprig of rocket leaf and slap it on a wooden chopping board and whack on an extra £4. You're lucky if anybody bothers to talk to you other than the bar staff who's only form of conversation is to take your order.
There's a good reason that pubs are so dead these days and it's not just because people haven't got any money to spend. It's because pubs today are being ruined. We only ever drink in traditional pubs and locals boozers and they are usually the ones with the most people in them when all the rest are half empty. They've always got the best atmosphere and the friendliest people. What does that say? It says that customers like a real pub and there's still a demand for them and if breweries would only stop to listen to what customers want and stop trying to fix something that isn't broken then maybe pubs would be busier and wouldn't keep closing down every 5 minutes.
I'm sick of hearing idiotic licensees and breweries blaming stuff like the smoking ban and cheap supermarket booze for the closure of pubs when all the decent traditional pubs round here are still packed out and the badly managed ones are empty. Instead of pointing the finger at other people maybe they need to go back to basics and take at look at why other pubs are so busy and theirs aren't. As far as I'm concerned, idiots who take hold of a lovely old fashioned pub and gut it out of all recognition and modernise it to look like something that resembles an IKEA showroom should be locked up for crimes against local culture.
Sometimes, I'm amazed that you even bother to go out drinking, as you seem to have so many issues and complaints with pubs.
BIB. And that is how I like it. I want beer in my pint, not froth. This wouldn't be so much of an issue if oversized glasses were used instead of the ones where you have to fill up right to the top to get a full pint.
Sometimes, I'm amazed that you even bother to go out drinking, as you seem to have so many issues and complaints with pubs.
BIB. And that is how I like it. I want beer in my pint, not froth. This wouldn't be so much of an issue if oversized glasses were used instead of the ones where you have to fill up right to the top to get a full pint.
My local tried oversized glasses for a while but they spent so much time dealing with complaints from dumb punters that their glass "wasn't full" thatha they went back to normal sized ones.
There are a few pubs here with some gruff locals who get worked up over being "infiltrated" by holidaymakers and other sorts of non local patrons. Some pissheads can be very territorial.
My local tried oversized glasses for a while but they spent so much time dealing with complaints from dumb punters that their glass "wasn't full" thatha they went back to normal sized ones.
I don't know why some people make such an issue over an insignificant amount of beer. I would much rather my pint had a nice creamy head on it than for the sake of losing a sip, have it ruined by pulling it as flat as dishwater. It always used to be a southern thing to serve beer flat to the top but it seems to be popular all over the country now, especially in real ale pubs.
I can understand if it's a quarter of the way down the glass but some folk will argue till they're blue in the face over a few millimeters. It's probably because of people like this that beer is now pulled all the way to the brim. There were old folk in our pub who would get arsey if their head was more than 5mm. I can't believe some people would make an issue over a tiny sip worth of beer.
There is an excellent pub near me, which sells great real ale , and has a nice comfortable atmosphere , but does , sadly, serve food on wooden boards. I would have thought this to be unhygienic as it must be impossible to clean wooden boards properly. At least if the food is on a plate you can see that it is clean .
They also have a Yummy Mummy lunchtime in which one bar is given over to these types with their push chairs. It is very popular, and they can all sit there and discuss house prices and school fees and going to the gym or pilates whatever that is.
There are a few pubs here with some gruff locals who get worked up over being "infiltrated" by holidaymakers and other sorts of non local patrons. Some pissheads can be very territorial.
Reminds me of a pub I went into on holiday. I sat at the bar only to be told by the barman "You can't sit there mate, that's Bob's seat. He comes in about now every day."
I don't know why some people make such an issue over an insignificant amount of beer. I would much rather my pint had a nice creamy head on it than for the sake of losing a sip, have it ruined by pulling it as flat as dishwater. It always used to be a southern thing to serve beer flat to the top but it seems to be popular all over the country now, especially in real ale pubs.
I can understand if it's a quarter of the way down the glass but some folk will argue till they're blue in the face over a few millimeters. It's probably because of people like this that beer is now pulled all the way to the brim. There were old folk in our pub who would get arsey if their head was more than 5mm. I can't believe some people would make an issue over a tiny sip worth of beer.
Because over the year it adds up.
Say at your local garage, whenever you buy 20 litres of petrol, you only get 19.5 litres, because of an inaccuracy in the calibration of the pump, that is 26 litres of petrol you are being short changed every year, if that is the amount of petrol you buy every week.
You could buy quite a few pints for 26 x £1-50 = £39 (*). Yes, it's not a lot of money in the scheme of things, but nevertheless it's £39 you have got, rather than not having. Put another way, it's nearly the same amount I pay for water and sewerage charges for 2 months.
(*) My local Weatherspoons is selling real ales for normally between £2 to £2-30 a pint.
Indeed. Wetherspoons in a nice area isn't full of scumbags at all.
I don't get this snobbery towards Wetherspoons. Is it just because they're a chain? They serve real ales and decent food at good value for money, and I've never been in one that's a dump, they're always tidy enough.
I went to one called Circus Circus for someone's leaving do and I thought to myself never again. It is one of those establishments that combines long tables as to suggest it is a restaurant with a bar and also a pub. It is awful.
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It's no wonder these places are dying on their arse. The owner of my local pub won't lower his prices because he only seems to want to encourage the diners and the hooray Henrys yet these days it's dead all week until the middle class snobs turn out on a Friday or Saturday night. Whenever I walk past during the week there's never anybody in all day and night. They've driven everybody away by trying to go too upmarket and the place has lost all it's locals atmosphere. It used to get packed with regulars drinking and socialising. Now it's a very sad lonely place. Shame.
I say "from what I can see" because I never go in these places anymore except to use the toilet. It's very hard to find a genuine, ordinary pub near me anymore (Ladbroke Grove/Notting Hill) where I can go without feeling like a pleb. I actually remember seeing a chalkboard pub menu somewhere which referred to "hand ground black pepper" and "hand shaped beef patties". WTF?
Unfortunately the community spirit that used to exist which meant you could go down the pub on your own a few times and within short time know a decent number of people of various backgrounds and races to hang out with is long dead.
perfect description! What is it with this serving food on anything but plates? I thought it pretty unhygienic when i got served a burger on a chopping board. I was wondering how much grease had seeped into the wood over the years?:o Also another thing about pretentious pubs is how poor the ale tends to be. The regular customer of these places seem to drink expensive fizzy pop lagers like Peroni, so the ale they get in gets a poor turnover and goes stale. The staff seem to have no idea how to serve it either and don't use the sparkler, resulting in a flat pint. Thankfully where i live there is a new breed of pubs cropping up. The real ale pub, where serving quality ale is the main focus. These places are very popular too.:)
I can't remember the last time I had a nice creamy head on my pint. I don't drink ale very much these days but whenever I do it seems the modern trend is to pull it flat and fill it to the brim. You're right about the quality too. Because they have nobody going in all week and when they do it's like you say, wine drinkers and trendy lager drinkers, the ale is sat around going sour. Bitter needs to move to keep it on top form but when they're not getting the drinkers in, it just sits in the cellar going off.
We have a real ale pub in town but even they don't know how to put a head on beer and it's like drinking cold tea. The place is grotty with a quarry tiled floor and reclaimed furniture and those rock hard church pews which wreck your back and numb your arse. It gets full of bald, beer-bellied men who stand around comparing tasting notes and chatting about how many beer festivals they've been to. They don't have any music or entertainment or a jukebox or pool table or a tv or fruit machine etc which in a way is good but sadly the place lacks atmosphere and feels a bit cold and dingey like sitting in an old church.
A little bit like "hand-raised pork pies", as sold by a quite well known deli / sandwich shop.
I miss the days when pubs were real pubs and pub food meant chicken in a basket or scampi and chips or a warmed up pie and sandwiches were freshly made that morning and kept under a plastic cloche on the back of the bar but it didn't matter bcecause they were only a quid each. None of this ponced up nonsense. If I wanted restaurant food at restaurant prices I'd go to a sodding restaurant and have proper restaurant service and not all this pub trying to be a restaurant malarkey.
You only have to read some of the bullshit they put on their menus to make ordinary pub grub sound pretentious. It's like that old M&S advert. This isn't just sausages and mash with onion gravy. These are locally sourced hand reared Lincolnshire sausages with mustard mash and a red wine and onion jus. This isn't just chicken and chips. This is corn fed free range oven roasted chicken breast with hand cut twice fried chunky chips. What utter crap! Plus the fact the portion sizes are usually so cordon bleu small you end up going home hungry and don't think by ordering a side of chips is gonna help fill you up. They come served in a little metal bucket and you get about 8 chips or they arrange them in a jenga style formation to discuise the fact that they've just charged you £2.50 for about 2 mouthfulls of food.
I was perfectly happy when pubs were places for locals to go for a pint and a natter and to play traditional pub games where everybody knows one another and the landlord greets you by name as you walk in and knows what you drink and pours your pint out on the bar without having to ask for it and if you're lucky you might get a lock in after time. A place with cosy seating and warm carpets and local pub memorabilia and brass ornaments and little personal nick-nacks dotted about the place and maybe a pub dog that wanders round before curling up in front of the real open fire. Bar stools where you can sit at whilst chatting to the landlord and the local regulars. Somewhere where you can get a cheap bar meal and not be ripped off for restaurant type food. Somewhere where you can get an ordinary sandwich for about £3 unlike gastro pubs that serve exactly the same thing on posh bread, throw in a sprig of rocket leaf and slap it on a wooden chopping board and whack on an extra £4. You're lucky if anybody bothers to talk to you other than the bar staff who's only form of conversation is to take your order.
There's a good reason that pubs are so dead these days and it's not just because people haven't got any money to spend. It's because pubs today are being ruined. We only ever drink in traditional pubs and locals boozers and they are usually the ones with the most people in them when all the rest are half empty. They've always got the best atmosphere and the friendliest people. What does that say? It says that customers like a real pub and there's still a demand for them and if breweries would only stop to listen to what customers want and stop trying to fix something that isn't broken then maybe pubs would be busier and wouldn't keep closing down every 5 minutes.
I'm sick of hearing idiotic licensees and breweries blaming stuff like the smoking ban and cheap supermarket booze for the closure of pubs when all the decent traditional pubs round here are still packed out and the badly managed ones are empty. Instead of pointing the finger at other people maybe they need to go back to basics and take at look at why other pubs are so busy and theirs aren't. As far as I'm concerned, idiots who take hold of a lovely old fashioned pub and gut it out of all recognition and modernise it to look like something that resembles an IKEA showroom should be locked up for crimes against local culture.
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Or alternatively if you have the room you can always do what these guys did and build their own in their back garden.
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It's Prince Harry's favourite boozer and what's good enough for him is good enough for me. The place has character and individuality. I love pubs like this. Real personality.
This however is the kind of snobfest that grates my cheese when people talk about pubs. These kind of places are not fit to be classed as pubs. They are restaurants which now stand on the site where a proper pub used to be before some middle class Jaguar driving, Armarni shirt wearing brewery boss came along and thought it would be a good idea to gut the place.
The pubs I frequent are pretty much between the two.
But that first one, whenever I have been in places like that they've not been welcoming. The sort of place where when you walk in it goes a bit quiet and they all look at you.
Yeah sorry I couldn't find a British one without knowing individual pubs and didn't want to out myself by linking to my local pub website but its pretty much as pretentious as this one that I found on a quick Google search.
"Craft beer" seems to be the new name, dreamt up by marketing types, for real ale as it sounds trendy, "artisan" and gets away from the beards and sandals image of the CAMRA members.
We do, why not? We have bruisers' pubs, footie pubs, flatroofed estate pubs full of wrong 'uns and junkies, Wetherspoons, boozers' pubs, why not something else? The more the merrier
As in your local Wetherspoons, rather than Wetherspoons in general. That's not really a Wetherspoons problem, it's a where you live problem.
Sometimes, I'm amazed that you even bother to go out drinking, as you seem to have so many issues and complaints with pubs.
BIB. And that is how I like it. I want beer in my pint, not froth. This wouldn't be so much of an issue if oversized glasses were used instead of the ones where you have to fill up right to the top to get a full pint.
My local tried oversized glasses for a while but they spent so much time dealing with complaints from dumb punters that their glass "wasn't full" thatha they went back to normal sized ones.
I don't know why some people make such an issue over an insignificant amount of beer. I would much rather my pint had a nice creamy head on it than for the sake of losing a sip, have it ruined by pulling it as flat as dishwater. It always used to be a southern thing to serve beer flat to the top but it seems to be popular all over the country now, especially in real ale pubs.
I can understand if it's a quarter of the way down the glass but some folk will argue till they're blue in the face over a few millimeters. It's probably because of people like this that beer is now pulled all the way to the brim. There were old folk in our pub who would get arsey if their head was more than 5mm. I can't believe some people would make an issue over a tiny sip worth of beer.
Indeed. Wetherspoons in a nice area isn't full of scumbags at all.
They also have a Yummy Mummy lunchtime in which one bar is given over to these types with their push chairs. It is very popular, and they can all sit there and discuss house prices and school fees and going to the gym or pilates whatever that is.
Reminds me of a pub I went into on holiday. I sat at the bar only to be told by the barman "You can't sit there mate, that's Bob's seat. He comes in about now every day."
I stood up and walked out.
Because over the year it adds up.
Say at your local garage, whenever you buy 20 litres of petrol, you only get 19.5 litres, because of an inaccuracy in the calibration of the pump, that is 26 litres of petrol you are being short changed every year, if that is the amount of petrol you buy every week.
You could buy quite a few pints for 26 x £1-50 = £39 (*). Yes, it's not a lot of money in the scheme of things, but nevertheless it's £39 you have got, rather than not having. Put another way, it's nearly the same amount I pay for water and sewerage charges for 2 months.
(*) My local Weatherspoons is selling real ales for normally between £2 to £2-30 a pint.
I don't get this snobbery towards Wetherspoons. Is it just because they're a chain? They serve real ales and decent food at good value for money, and I've never been in one that's a dump, they're always tidy enough.